You've all heard the news by now. A Somali Muslim has tried to kill a Danish cartoonist who drew a cartoon of prophet Mohammad.
Muslims must condemn acts of violence in their name in the strongest possible terms in order to send a clear message to fellow followers, and the rest of the world, that even the most offensive speech (writing, cartoon, film...) does not justify killing or physically harming anyone.
The Mohammad cartoon, Salamn Rushdie's Satanic Verses and the like are offensive to Muslims. But violence, especially murder, is the HIGHEST offense.
Demonstrate, write, blog, draw your own cartoon in response to whatever that has offended you. But when you lift a finger against this cartoonist or that writer and try to go as far as ending his or her life, you no longer have a moral or legal leg to stand on. You become a criminal/murderer.
Islam is widely perceived by the rest of the world as a religion that condones or even incites violence whenever one of its "sacred" tenants or icons is ridiculed, or even questioned. If this attitude does not change, if Muslims themselves do not condemn violent retaliation, they will continue to be looked upon with fear and suspicion.
In the Islamic Republic today, there are many examples where the law of the land calls for capital punishment for those who say the "wrong" thing. Currently there's a growing chorus calling for the execution of protesters and opposition leaders whose "crime" has been to question the results of a fraudulent election or to challenge the authority and legitimacy of the supreme leader. Judiciary officials have threatened to put a number of people to death to deter others who dare to speak out and protest. In other words the continuation of violence and murder in the name of Islam.
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The point was Islamophobia
by ramin parsa on Mon Jan 04, 2010 03:40 AM PSTThe point was Islamophobia in the West, and profiling, etc. and for this too-much-time-on-his-hands-loud-mouth to reply: oh, no, the Munich exercise was the handiwork of a "marxist" wing of the PLO -- LUDICROUS! -- as if the rest of the world can see past the fact that these were men from middle-eastern Muslim countries, say whatever you want.
It's as if we to say, oh, no, those Americans that were assasinated in Iran during the 1970's were not the handiork of a Muslim terrorist group, but rather, the "Marxist" Mujahedin-e-Khalg! They're all terrorist groups from Muslim countries, or associated with Muslim groups, period.
The average westerner wouldn't know the difference between the Mujahedin or the Fedayoun! And as if, at the end of the day, your typical hard-core Mujahedin Marxist doesn't believe in the almighty Allah!!! Guess what, genuis, they all do, as do your beloved PLO Marxists! As such, they are Muslims FIRST and Marxists SECOND, as the two are obviously not mutually exclusive.
Black September Organization/PFLP
by Nur-i-Azal on Mon Jan 04, 2010 01:54 AM PST//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_%28group%29
The BSO began as a small cell of Fatah men determined to take revenge upon King Hussein and the Jordanian army. Recruits from the PFLP, as-Sa'iqa, and other groups also joined.
PFLP
The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) (Arabic:, al-Jabhah al-Sha`biyyah li-Taḥrīr Filasṭīn) is a Marxist-Leninist, secular, nationalist Palestinian political and paramilitary organization, founded in 1967. It has consistently been the second-largest of the groups forming the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the largest being Fatah.
LOL, Fatwa!
by ramin parsa on Mon Jan 04, 2010 01:44 AM PST"a Marxist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)"
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Ramin
by Nur-i-Azal on Mon Jan 04, 2010 01:26 AM PSTGet a life! Now to answer your re-Imagining of history:
bloodshed at the Munich Olympics in 1972
Which was committed by a Marxist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), not a Muslim religious organization. Duh! You do know the difference between religious folk and godless Commies, right?
to the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979
A hostage crises brought on by the same American government who itself had directly contributed to the fall of the Shah and the creation of the Islamic Revolution in the first place. Don't you love that Karma! And your point was what, again?
to the marine truck bombing in Beirut 1983
I'm sorry, did that actually hurt? Tough sh*t! Serves the US of A right for the mess they themselves created in unleashing Islamist fundamentalism in the region because they were so affraid of Communists and the influence of those pesky Russkies, not to mention had a bee in their bonnet about an Imperial Iran and its ruler.
to the first Twin Tower bombings in 1991
Whose mastermind was actually an Arab-Afghan associate of Osama's during the Afghan war against the Soviets, all of whom had been funded and trained by dumbass Uncle Sam.
to the USS Cole 1996, to Khobar Towers 1998 (by the IRI)
Both USS Cole and Khobar Towers were done by al-CIA-duh, genius, and al-CIA-duh is America's own special Frankenstein monster gone bezerk.
to the Jewish community center in Argentina
Three names: Deir Yassin & Sabra and Shatilla! Look them up!
to September 11, 2001
Which was not committed by any 19 hijackers associated with the al-CIA-duh organization, but more than likely by a black-op of the US government itself.
July 7, 2005 London
Done by MI6 itself.
subway bombings in Spain, Bali nightclub
Also black-ops of Western intelligence agencies.
teh DC sniper shootings
Done by two mentally ill individuals, both African American, a disease (mental illness) which is quite virulently rampant all throughout the USA all the way into government. Go figure...
The scorn that Muslims receive on a daily basis in Western lands is not only justified, but richly deserved!
When you push a man's back to the wall, he fights back ferociously, especially if he has nothing else to lose. That said, the scorn you receive by me and similar is more richly deserved, because you are obviously a creature of the white-man's hype and thus a complete moron and cultural sellout!
Now kindly untangle your bruised nut from that Texas rodeo rope and POQ. And stop needlessly attacking Marge as well or else...
My God, Marge...
by ramin parsa on Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:58 AM PSTDare I say I completely agree, as in 100%, with your sentiments below...
"I am tired of religion and religious arguments. They are pointless because they don't address the problem of religion itself. Islam is radical, not IRI or Al Qaeda. Actually, these two are perfect creations of Islam."
AND NURI --
"This got old and now his convenient pinata donkey are Muslims!"
AS IF good little innocent Muslims have done absolutely NOTHING to earn the scorn of non-muslims in the last 40 years, starting with the bloodshed at the Munich Olympics in 1972 to the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 to the marine truck bombing in Beirut 1983, to the first Twin Tower bombings in 1991, to the USS Cole 1996, to Khobar Towers 1998 (by the IRI) to the Jewish community center in Argentina (by the IRI, where 84 innocent Jews were killed in 1994) to September 11, 2001 in New York, to July 7, 2005 London, subway bombings in Spain, Bali nightclub, teh DC sniper shootings, etc. etc. The list is rather long...
The scorn that Muslims receive on a daily basis in Western lands is not only justified, but richly deserved!
Dear Cost of Progress
by Everybody Loves Somebody ... on Sun Jan 03, 2010 03:46 PM PSTI am sorry if I offended you. I believe you are sincere in your heart and mind.
I used to live in the DC area and got a 2 footer back when Marion Barry was the mayor.
Happy, healthy, and prosperous new year to you.
"Everybody Loves ...Raymond????"
by Cost-of-Progress on Sun Jan 03, 2010 03:08 PM PSTSir, if you are Iranian - then dorood....
If you are not....WTF????
We got 2' of snow here 2 wknds ago, and it is all gone now....I am a few 100 miles south of you bro'......
Right vs Left? - --- I am center dude...get a right hand grip, will you?? LOL
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As "good" muslims, we should routinely mock islam, just the way
by Shazde Asdola Mirza on Sun Jan 03, 2010 02:47 PM PSTthat christians and jews make fun of their religions, in order to avoid those relics of ancient history to be taken literally and seriously.
Let's ALL thank mannya2001
by MM on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:29 PM PSTI am sort of new to Iranian.com. One of the first things I noted was how diverse the views in the Iranian Diaspora were. All I have seen lately in various blogs are disagreements, many heated, amongst the writers.
What I see in this blog is a united front put up against mannya2001 who just reminds ALL of us why this Islamist regime is horrible and what our common denominator is "GET RID OF THE ISLAMIST REGIME".
Thank you mannya2001.
GITdoun
by hooshie on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:19 PM PSTI didn't realize we have a Quranic expert on exegesis in our midst. Why don't you write your own interpretation of Qur'an and have it published? You never know you may stop all these killings (LOL).
Just a side point GIT!
Could it be safe to assume that those who mocked the prophet did not quite believe in him either? (LMAO= Laughing My A$$ Off - explaining a joke in the style of Azali )
Azali! Don't misquote Rumi
by hooshie on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:08 PM PSTWe all know that you are not literate to quote Rumi's most famous verse correctly but you don't need to prove it to us every time you open your mouth or press a key on the keyboard. This is the correct reading of the verse:
هر كسي از ظن خود شد يار من از درون من نجست اسرار منhooshie-
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:17 AM PSTok first the quranic verse u brought forth is not documented correctly as it is not found in the quran . 2nd, the new verses u bring have Nothing to do with Mockery as such it does not pertain to this Danish cartoonist. those new verses you mentioned pertain to the unbelievers who are in state of aggression.
After all, one thing
by vildemose on Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:34 AM PSTAfter all, one thing Iranian women have that I hate is that wavy, black, rough black hair that is half of the time airborne and makes them look like "scary" and angry looking. So yes, keeping it half covered is WAAAY better. If it was silky hair that is another thing==mann2001
LOL
Hey Cost of Regress
by Everybody Loves Somebody ... on Sun Jan 03, 2010 09:17 AM PSTWe have received over two feet of snow in Boston. I will have to go and do some Barf Parooing for the next few hours or better yet I will use my 20 Horse Power Republican snow blower to further pollute the environment and to annoy my fellow liberal leftist environmentalists (you come across as on of those!?)
In the meantime, stop being presumptuous and sarcastic! Do yourself a favor and look up these words in a dictionary on line. Understand what the terms mean! Speak on you behalf and don't pretend that everybody else supports your arguments your views.
Also prepare some hot tea until I come back from snow blowing I mean Barf Parooing!?! :-)
Just logged opn and there you are "everybody"
by Cost-of-Progress on Sun Jan 03, 2010 08:55 AM PSTActually, the quality of posters here is quite high, FYI. I just do not think that your views are particularly beneficial for any of the contributors here at this point.
Now, go back and re-examine your priorities in case they are other than just stating your biased thoughts about Iranians.
BTW, I will say whatever is on mind - you freedom lover you....
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To : Cost of Progress or Maybe Regress!
by Everybody Loves Somebody ... on Sun Jan 03, 2010 08:35 AM PSTStop being presumptuous and don't say "us" say "me" and I don't need your bloody permission to contribute to Foxnews.com!? Who the hell are you, the owner of this site!
Apparently, despite all the cost you have incurred, you haven't made much progress upstairs, Sir, instead maybe you have regressed!? That's why you come across as an ignorant and irrelevant individual who likes to pontificate and be presumptuous! But, America is a free country and be and do whatever you want!
JJ,
With all due respect and despite the good intentions on your part, there is a big problem with the quality and standard of your contributors and their contributions in/to this site.
Until and unless you establish a mechanism to qualitatively screen the content of the contributions, you will continue to see topics after topics and discussions after discussions degenerating into childish, moronic, and nonsensical mud-slinging we see here coming from Mr. Cost of P.
Just look around you JJ and I don't mean to be disrespectful or offend anybody here, but you don't exactly have the faculty of Harvard assembled here. This site will continue going down the hill and further degenerate into "Jersey Shore" type of outfit if you don't apply certain qualitative rules here.
likewise Marge
by Niloufar Parsi on Sun Jan 03, 2010 08:16 AM PSThappy new year to you too Marge :)
mannya you just wasted precious words
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sun Jan 03, 2010 08:15 AM PSTI actually wasted my time reading your comment. The "radical" belongs AFTER the word Islam, not before.
Islam by its own account is a radical thing. The old testament told us women were made as playthings for men. The new testament told us to shut up in church. The MOSLem a-holes told women to shut up everywhere except the mosque.
I am tired of religion and religious arguments. They are pointless because they don't address the problem of religion itself. Islam is radical, not IRI or Al Qaeda. Actually, these two are perfect creations of Islam.
you're welcome niloufar
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sun Jan 03, 2010 08:11 AM PSThappy new year!
amazing video marge
by Niloufar Parsi on Sun Jan 03, 2010 08:10 AM PSTshe is a little one-sided with the attacks but makes amazing observations.
thanks for the link.
Moslem Haters - Bichara they can't get away HAHAHA
by mannya2001 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 07:54 AM PSTI feel sorry for all the MOslem Haters. They left Iran because of what they thought were tough Islamic laws like wearing Hijab...divorce laws....etc
Now little by little, the Iranians in IRan are getting more relaxed. Actually, I love the Iranian women in tight jeans, mantau & half hair covered. I actually get energized walking in Iran and seeing these sights. I said energized not horny.
After all, one thing Iranian women have that I hate is that wavy, black, rough black hair that is half of the time airborne and makes them look like "scary" and angry looking. So yes, keeping it half covered is WAAAY better. If it was silky hair that is another thing.
ANways, the poor diaspora leave Iran wishing to get rid of Islam and what do they end up with:
RADICAL ISLAM that is overtaking their newly found countries. Radical like you have never ever seen in IRAN.
Radical like: women covered in tents, Muslim cabbies with their kufees and dirty long beards, colleges taken over by Muslim Radicals, Terrorism and racial profiling, Radical Muslims in England, France & parts of US....
Maybe next time you visit Iran, if you can, you can teach the Iranians back home about how your neighbor, patient or client is a woman you have not seen her face yet!!!
I want a condemnation of how Islam treated women
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sun Jan 03, 2010 07:41 AM PST//www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92uOTF6Tho
I have met a lot of men who feel empowered by Islam
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sun Jan 03, 2010 06:37 AM PSTI would too, if I were given the powers that Islam grants men. There is a great youtube video from iran negah that includes a broadcast from Iran recently. The host explains the 9 things that cause amnesia according to the prophet mohammad (and his telling to ali). One of them is eating mouse droppings and the other is pissing in still water.
We're talking about a religion that hails this man as divinely inspired. If that is God, then God don't help me at all. This blog is ridiculous and it doesn't address the real problem of Islam at all. Apologize for this? How about shed that BS religion. Liberalize yourselves in a way that no army or "god" can.
FOX News Guest: 'Strip
by vildemose on Sun Jan 03, 2010 05:15 AM PSTFOX News Guest: 'Strip Search All 18-28-Year-Old Muslim Men At Airports' (VIDEO)
//www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/03/fox-news-guest-strip-sear_n_409545.html
Are muslism too sensitive
by vildemose on Sun Jan 03, 2010 04:45 AM PSTAre muslism too sensitive to tolerate peace and be tolerant of others?? Do muslim really know Islam?? What if muslim practiced Sufism and spirituality instead of listening to crazy marjaa or Ayatollahs who issue death fatwas against innocent people?
How do we rehabilitate this reactionary segment of the clergies or regular citizens who think they have a monopoly on Islam and their literal interpretation is the one and only?
NO FABRICATION GITdoun! Don't apologize for Islam
by hooshie on Sun Jan 03, 2010 03:47 AM PSTI know you may not know Arabic but that's no excuse: Here! Read verses 13, 14 and 29.
//www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/009.asp
Hooshie- DONT FABRICATE QURANIC VERSE
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 01:13 AM PSTThe quranic verse Hooshie u presented is either not documented correctly or is fabricated since surah and verse do not match whatsoever !!!
“That will be their recompense - [their] hell -for having denied the truth and made My messages and My apostles a target of their mockery.” 18:106
“ God will requite them for their mockery, and will leave them for a while in their overweening arrogance, blindly stumbling to and fro.” 2:15
“ And verily messengers (of Allah) were mocked before thee, but long I bore with those who disbelieved. At length I seized them, and how (awful) was My punishment!” 13:32
these verses clearly illustrates that no muslim is permitted to attack another on the basis of he or she mocking God's Apostles. Be it Musa, Dawood, Muhammad, or Solaymon or any other prophet. it is God and God alone who settles their deeds.
Muslims are INSULAR
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:26 AM PSTlet's face it muslims iranian or non iranian are insular. yes muslims should condemn the use of violence against this cartoonist but then again muslims dont even condemn or protest when they themselves are being attacked !!! case and point alllll the suicide bombings you hear on the news the largest demographic of people murdered or maimed have been the Muslims themselves!!!! iraq, afghanistan, yemen, and pakistan a bombing happens you read 10 american soliders dead with 80 Muslims killed and god knows how many muslim's maimed !! that is a 10:80 ratio !! Sometimes no americans are killed and allll the casualties are Muslims. For example on January 1st there was a bombing in Pakistan at a Volleyball Tournament 100 dead and 80 wounded. All the dead and wounded MUSLIMS. Where are Muslims condemning this in America?? Where are Muslim Leaders condemning this in Canada ??? And now u expect Muslims to go out and hold demonstrations condemning the use of violence over this Danish Cartoonist ?? inshallah
Marge
by Nur-i-Azal on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:59 PM PSTon second thought...who cares
by mannya2001 on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:48 PM PSTlet them brand islam as a facist/ freedom hating religion .....
who cares, like I give a damn what Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck have to say.
Like I give a damn what an american who can't locate Afghanistan on a map has to say..
like I give a damn what the nightly news has to say...
Be Darak what they think of us! 300 years and they still think Blacks are ..... What makes you think they will think differently about Muslims?