Jaleho

نه غزه، نه لبنان،

OK, buddy

the message is clear

Rifts Between Classes

Despite all the help, hype, and propaganda that the western media offered them, the leaders of the "Green Movement" were not able to call for a single general strike.

I am picking up on this comment, although the post is not new, as this situation is ongoing. The lack of sympathy between the Green Movement and the working class in Iran is evident. If they had workers on strike, the impact would be much greater than any amount of demonstrations. Yet I think that many members of the reform movement do not even want workers support. They see themselves as above all that. When talking to such individuals I have been startled - they always seem to be dreaming that they came from Persian aristocratic origins a few generations back - and that the lower people in Iran are influenced by Arab culture.

Jaleh jan

thanks sweetie. that is quite clear. i am not so sure about the quds issue, but that one has been argued to death here already i guess. it is a dilemma the volume of text we have to read to keep up with the discussions! yeah i know it's lazy of me... still, there is a genuine feeling of excessive attention to palestine while our own rights are trampled by those same leaders shedding tears for palestinians. israel's deserved loss is coming though partly because of the nuclear deal in the offing. here i must pay respect to your consistent view: iran's position is getting stronger while the 5+1 have done everything in their power to try and look like 'winners'. 

Peace

نه غزه، نه لبنان، جانم فدای ایران

WOW NILOUFAR!! Good to see you again!

It is so good to see that you have not completely gone away, and I am glad that I checked this again! The weight of female sanity of the site was greatly reduced with you and Merhnaz being absent for so long, too much weight on my shoulders ;-)

Yeah, I have not changed my political views much, but I wanted to re-iterate that I am all for the protesters in Iran like you, and think they have pushed Iran forward greatly already. But, I think the movement is not about "rigged elecion" though (which I don't think was rigged at all),  and I despise its leadership, and I also thought it was very idiotic of the leaders to associate the color tag of already-failed "color revolutions" to go with a genuine movement of the youth. This might have made it more popular like a fad for a short time, but  by allowing the wrong hands trying to steal the casue, it thus made it weak. The movement itself is quite healthy, and I believe it is what is needed for that "icremental" changes as you say. No one has given the people any incremental advanatge in the past thirty years, they have gained it every step of the way. When it comes to women's right and abolition of certain rights of "Leadership," I think increments in fact must be replaced by HUGE steps. It is high time, society is ready for it, people are ready; the clerics better get ready too.

Many a healthy movements have failed because the leadership betrayed the movement. I believe this is one case where few lousy leaders are trying to ride on the back of a healthy Iranian youth, and they will fail unless they don't try to bypass their legitimate demands by that of their own and few foreign lackeys. Changingb the message of the Quds Day for sure was not in the agenda of the movement, it just manged to weaken it. That's the sign of betrayal of the leadership which must be exposed by all might, in my opinion. Hence my new blog.

Don't go away for long again! 

A7 jan salam!

was wondering what ID you had chosen for yourself since anonyms were exiled! kharmagas?! guess i can see why :)

all is well. had a totally hectic summer with lots of family visitors.

no need for kamakazi style - so al qaeda and passe!

Hey Nilou!

I was checking back to see if I should do Kamikaze for the MoshijAn (a Sazegaraist lunatic "green") ..... and I saw you are back! Heck with politics of all colors, how the heck are you?.... now that you are back I have to postpone my possible kamikaze for the MoshijAn!

#ghorbanet (a7)

In search for real banckrupcy

The real bankruptcy of ideology is in pursuing the war crimes in a
country that is few thousand kilometers far away from your homeland,
while the youth and children of your country are being tortured, raped
and executed in your own country for simply expressing their views.

The
real bankruptcy is in calling Ahmadinejad's acts as bravery, while this
individual  has no guts to denounce the imprisonment of Iran's political
prisoners. Bravery starts within your country, within your land and
among your own people. If Ahmadinejad was a brave man, he would have
faced  thousands of protesters who had come over to New York to greet
him. If he was a brave person, he would have had a public appearance
and addressed the questions of these protesters within the boundary of
reason and logic. Did the brave man have a public appearance with the
GREEN protesters? I am afraid not!

You wanna know how brave your favorite president is in confronting the people who have come to visit him in NY? Just read this news

//www.mowjcamp.com/article/id/38456

Jaleho, instead of
expressing your views in such an unorganized structure, you should
first read and learn about the history of Iranian movement in pursuing
democracy. You need to read the history of Iran 1979 revolution and
find out at what stage of the revolution the strikes started to
develop. While the first sparks of the movement started in early 1978,
it was not till end of 1978 that the national Iranian oil company
workers started their strikes. And by the way, the 1978 strike did not
happen by the order of anyone. Let me assure you that general strikes
in Iran are not far away, as we say it in Fasri

"NASHASHIDE SHAB DERAZE.

As a matter of fact, the "HAFT-TAPEH" workers had their strikes just few weeks ago

//iranpressnewsblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/work...

and
they did that without orders of Mousavi or Karrubi, just like how the
NIOC workers did in late 1978. I invite you to closely follow the
student movements upon the opening of the new academic year. I am
afraid to let you know that the strikes would start from the schools
and universities. 

//iranisabzpics.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-pos...

//news.gooya.com/didaniha/archives/2009/09/09...

My last advice to you: practice to relax and loose your paranoia for the green color. After all, green is the color of life.

Jaleh jan salam

i see that your ship continues to sail against the tide! i am not sure why you are so dead set against the green movement though of course i respect your right to choose what is best. i am just not clear what this best is in that there is no denying the green movement is quite popular, and we see greater and great isolation of iran under its current leadership on a daily basis. ahmadinejad is certainly not the best choice for managing the situation as he has no real friends left in 'high places'. you may blame the green movement for this situation, but then that is the same as blaming the people of iran for wanting a different kind of leadership. we both support incremental improvements in the system, but what are the increments that are feasible at the moment in your opinion?

Peace

DELUSIONAL as ever

1. who baffled the world media by their massive participation for the actual casue of the Qods Day!

Right, Iranians baffled everyone by their massive participation last Friday but that was nothing less than a massive denunciation of the regime's exaction. Quds day hence became a national day, what we learned was that protestations against Lies, Infamy, ... the illegitimate mullahs regime will continue until the final victory.

Moreoever I dont know what casue means but Kharmaghass has a pretty sentence for that

2. Some pro-mullah Keyhan agents here were saying that there won't be more than 250 protesters in NY when A.N. will give his speech! HA ha ha. I think that it was Jaleho ... The mass protests were such that A.N.'s trip turned into a fiasco, even Jaleho couldn't have imagine such a thing.

3. I thought this blog was dead, I noticed the comments went over 200 and saw your nice input.

It's surely not for Jaleho's intelligence that people left comment(s) here, WE ALL came to denounce Jaleho's Keyhan-like lies and to say: Khodeti

4. Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do. ~ Bertrand RUSSEL.

Dear booshveg, and Kharmagas

Welcome on board booshveg, just as I thought this blog was dead, I noticed the comments went over 200 and saw your nice input.  you said:

"It's a pity the diaspora is totally trapped in the hyperreality of the virtual space and are absolutely out of touch with the reality on the ground in Iran. ( a newly published PIPA/WPO poll //www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/br... would confirm my assertion)"

CORRECT! I found it amazing to watch the video of that young fellow in front of UN who was shouting for ey...another few hundred like minded expats, and he was delusional enough to refer to many millions of Iranians who baffled the world media by their massive participation for the actual casue of the Qods Day!

No wonder they get so disappointed, as seen by writing blogs like:

"Why don't Guardian, BBC, and NYTimes constantly talk about US?!!"

They confuse the short-lived period that CNN or BBC can make some money creating a hot topic, and do their asigned service by repeating a propaganda that might actually ignite the hopes of some foreign meddlers.... with the reality  that the propaganda didn't work and died, yet it is still alive and BIG in their own mind!

Kharmaga jan, you crack me up, thanks for the morning smiles :-)

I would SUPPORT Ahmadinejad IF : (to Moshi)

MoshijjAn, I would support Ahmadinejad if:

--he was not influenced by reactionary Mullas such as Mesbah Yazdi

--he paid more attention to issues than rhetoric (holocaust etc)

--he chose people based on their qualification and loyalty to the country (not relationship with him)

--I were sure he was fully committed to make Iran nuke ready ..... and all this wasn't just rhetoric

..........

Since none of the above is true, I rather have my hopes on the progressive greens ... (not the Sazegaraist "greens" that lunatics like you support)

Now, MoshijAn, are you going to tell me if you are cute enough, so I do Kamikaze for you as you requested. I am a romantic Efsahani, I do Kamikaze for you after visiting Esfahan once more!

Khaleh Jan

We all know it... I was wondering who, in the free world, could support A.N. and finally came to the conclusion that it's almost impossible if one doesn't look exactly like him... Kabootar ba kabootar, baz ba baz//Konad hamjenss ba hamjenss parvaz, as we say.

First

there was 'Jaleho',

Registered for 1 year 19 weeks. 

Then 'Kharmagas' was invented-

Registered for 7 weeks 5 days

Then was invented 'Booshveg'

Registered for 41 minutes(!)

Talk about multiple personality disorder- The real singular and antisocial character behind all these usernames has definitely a very very nasty agenda and I doubt very much any one here if falling for the garbage he is putting out. 

Beware of the dirty games he is playing. 

Being singular is a virtue

Dear Jaleh,

 Not  falling in the trap of the self-righteous and delusional iranian diaspora 's dictatorship is itself a great virtue, regardless of the ahmadinejad's credentials. ( I am not a fan of Ahmadinejad since I find his handling of the economy to be catastrophic) It's a pity the diaspora is totally trapped in the hyperreality of the virtual space and are absolutely out of touch with the reality on the ground in Iran. ( a newly published PIPA/WPO poll //www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/br... would confirm my assertion) They obsessively show the sign of behavior that they call regression in the psychological field. Very " proud" of the "glorious" Iran's history but without a damn clue how to link it o the present reality of Iran. Frankly I suspect that the blood scene would be way more brutal if they were in power. 

Ostaad goes green

Further evidence of the Green movements moral capital

Ham Rah Sho Aziz!

the prophetic verses of rumi...

To Fouadk

1- does it mean these youth are tired of some elements in the regime who refuse to address the present internal issues of the country and talk about the liberation of jerusalem, when our own society needs a lot of liberation, like the women who are tired of the mandatory veil, and the youth who are sick of the sharia police? if that is what they mean, all power to them!

Yes, I think that this is exactly what the slogan means. In its majority, the Iranian society finds that rapes, murdering, and mass executions in the streets are worse than what is happening in Palestine because these acts are perpetuated by the regime which is supposed to protect Iranians and not a foreign entity. Power to all freedom lovers.

na gaza na lubnan?

Gholam

The fact of the matter is that Iranains with various political backgrounds are in both sides ....., I am sure there are some MKOs in the green side, but there also are IRMOs[*] in the green side. IRMOs were traditionally fiercely anti MKO.

..... and there definitely are many of us who don't care that much about either side but don't like to see this factional fighting drag Iran into civil war, or turn Iran into another playground for mercenary wars of US/Israel.

[*]IRMO:   Islamic Revolution Mojahedin Organization

‫بیا

اینهم از هم میهنان اصفهانی... ببین با چه شوری بچه ها میخونن، نه غزه، نه لبنان، جانم فدای ایران. دم همهء اصفهانیهای باغیرت جوش.



‫میبینم که یکم دلت برای میهن تنگه، این کلیپ هم برای شما هم وطن.

Speaking of EsfahAn..... (to ShAer)

ShAer says: "....  camel Esfehooni ..."

ShAer, Now that this blog is fairly quiet and we are done insulting each other (for the time being) can you find some good poetry about Esfahan from your library ... post them here in Persian script?

Dedicate it to the green "Esfehoonis" so we are not totally off topic.

Gholam-e Khamenei, Evidence Talks, BS Walks

for once in your miserable existence be a man and stand up for what you say instead of hiding behind useless and obsolete propaganda. 

You say that Mousavi's supporters have been infiltrated by monarcchists and the MKO.  Where's your proof?  Show us the evidence.  Either that or shut your mouth!

Assigning tasks for others while you...........

The real question is why you have the prefix "shah" for your ID!

JalehO was born in Iran.  She considers herself an Iranian.  She is pro IRI.  She hates the U.S. and its government.  And you are asking why she needs to go back to the IRI?!!!  I'll tell you why:

1)  To help fix 17% overall unemployment; 25% among women, 23% among young men between 18-30

2)  To help reduce prostitution among young women.  Prostitution has increase 700% since the time of the Shah. Iran's population has increase 200%

3)  To help IRI suppress 50 million people who oppose its fascist methodology for running Iran

These 3 projects should keep her busy until she passes. 

 Mr Faramarz_fateh: Nice to see that have dictated a list of patriotic missions for others when you elect to sit in your comfortable chair and smoke whatever you are smoking and encouraging kids to take to the streets in the meanwhile to possibly get shot so you can claim how savage IRI is!!. That is the limit of your concious and courage!!!!!!!

Remind you, don't feel bad, there are too many like you here............!

Aside from your oral discharge, can you provide us with one iota of evidence as to how Mousavi's "support" has been "infiltrated" by all these characters? 

Mr. 111.2

Without any appologies, you deserve nothing but all possible discharges.

NY city is full of bars, I take it that you will be there for a good vacation since apart from a couple of hours demonatrations against Ahmadinejad,  if you drink a glass for each person claimed killed by IRI during demonstrations (thanks to your moral support and encouragements) you will be there a good few days!!!!

Gholam

When you say:

"The more he inflates his support base with monarchiests, MKOs, imposter Zionists and imposter "freedom lovers" the sooner this bubble pops. Most of these so called "supporters" are in it for alterior motives anyway"

Aside from your oral discharge, can you provide us with one iota of evidence as to how Mousavi's "support" has been "infiltrated" by all these characters? 

KHAR-mag-ASS

To que asslan nemidooni Adam chieh, chera bishtar as khortoomet harf mizani?

... ShAer

.. tou kei mikhAi Adam beshi ShAere(h)? It is not "koodoonvareh khati", it is koodooMvareh khati? ..... anyhow go read my previous comments to you ... I stated koodoomvare khatam!

KhArmAgAss

It's disturbing to hear you saying that you're not for IRI, nor Ahamdi,... that you voted for Karoobi etc. and in the other hand, you blame "Ahmadinejad kaleh khar" to not have tried to convince patriotic and progressive greens whose ideas are represented here by people such as Q, Irandokht, Mammad,..., and many others.
As you would have liked these people accept Ahmadi as their president! Amazing, don't you find it ? Belakhareh koodoomvareh khati?

yes ....... ShAer

It seems you didn't understand, I said:

' As for me, I didn't support them, I was a lunatic radical (such as jenAbAli) then ..., I wanted nothing less than IRI gone (removed)! '

However like many others in Iran I can be blamed for putting in power what was to be known as IRI .... later.

For that you are correct to blame me, ei ShAereh bi-ma'refat!

Blame yourself (to Kharmaghass)

I don't fall into your binary stupid categories. So just go blame yourself for what happened - as you say that you were once an IRI lover.