Those who have not learned from the lessons of the past

Those who have not learned from the lessons of the past
by Peacock_Feather
30-Sep-2012
 

As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. The German antisemiticism of yesteryear has blossomed into the Islamophobia of today with the same people who were once the targets of German antisemiticism now chief amongst those perpetrating Islamophobia.

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Zendanian

by Peacock_Feather on

I am rather baffled by your statement when you said "Paulo Freire was all about secularism" since Paula Freire came out of the perspective of Latin American Liberation Theology, i.e. Christian Marxism. I think you need to go back and re-read him and look at his intellectual biography while you're at it. Paulo Freire would be more in intellectual solidarity with Ali Shariati or Mahmoud Taleghani than any "secular" Marxist figures you're thinking of.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wz5y2V1af0

Some of the self-styled leftists here know little about the history of their own professed intellectual/political leanings, and that is bizarre if they really are what they say are!


Raoul1955

PeaCock...

by Raoul1955 on

Are you by any chance related to the user ID 'MaryamJoon?'
Just curious as you are writing with the same zeal and style as the other user ID.  :-)


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Islamophobia is what Morsi of Egypt's Politics is about

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Even For Him it makes little sense, though he is a leader in the muslim brotherhood and the top political leader for egypt, so you could understand him mentioning it in his UN Speech as an interest, but really Islamophobia is even among the biggest problems facing Egyptians who need education, work, justice, freedom from discrimination etc, no not quite, but what is your story then?  You bring this up as if of all the issues that will help Iran, this is a priority, its not even on the first 10 lists as far as most Iranian muslims are concerned.


Zendanian

Paulo Freire is all about Secularism, Solidarity and Freedom

by Zendanian on

These thugish Muslim mobs on the streets are all about theocracy, divisions based on religion and rule of the sword.

Of course you're not an apologist for Islamic Republic of Hell, you only give 110% approval to the way they kill, jail and generally harass the heck out of Iranian Bahais. The community where you originate from. Shame on you.

You're much more than a mere apologist of mullhas, you're their unpaid servant, doing their dirty work for free.

If they ever had a dream of a "thugish intellectual" ( I realize that is an oxymoron, then again so are you) who would "voluntarily " push their lines: IT WOULD BE YOU. Actually, come to think of it: IT IS YOU.

Shame on you if you have any left.

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P.S. The rise of Wahabi Islam in Saudi Arabia, Khomeini in Iran, Ekhvan in Eygpt also had a lot to do with Cold-War politics as well, having said that, that only adds to their reactionary, repugnant nature and character.  

P.S.S. Of course there's no single intrepetation of Islam, and if you have a billion muslims, you also probably have a billion different, contradicting intrepetations, as well. However, for the past three decades the reactionary, repugnant muslims have occupied the leadership position whitin the muslim world. Thus forcing us to conclude that:

In today's world Islam's biggest problem is Islam itself.


default

Down with unprincipled

by Shepesh on

Down with unprincipled Mollahs! In every shape and form!


Dr. Mohandes

Uh oh

by Dr. Mohandes on

Guys i get the feeling that somebody is about to do something totally rash and radical...

I 'd suggest we get the local medical emergency/rescue team on stanby...

khoda shafa bedeh... 


Peacock_Feather

Before I go...

by Peacock_Feather on

Covenant is a hero. A true freedom fighter in every sense of those words. May God bless him/her wherever they may be!

Down with Zio-Nazism & the New World Order! Long live Iran and free people everywhere!


vildemose

  فیلم بردار

vildemose




 

فیلم بردار کاروان احمدی نژادبه آمریکا پناهنده شد+ عکس

 

//baztab.net/fa/news/15330

 

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir


vildemose

  فیلم بردار

vildemose




 

فیلم بردار کاروان احمدی نژادبه آمریکا پناهنده شد+ عکس

 

//baztab.net/fa/news/15330

 

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir


Faramarz

Horse Feathers and Demon!

by Faramarz on

 

 

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Make sure to mention my name; My name is Roy, Gil Roy!


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Zedanian/Mash Ghasem see what you started

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

You lied about the late shah, exagerated and at some point deceived yourself, now you have a akhoondophile defending crimes on nations that have not been seen since foreign invasons and he/she mis-uses the feather of a peacock as a handle! Like the Mek using the peoples shir-o-khorshid on their flag.  Please pay attention to what your own lack of understanding and rigid thinking ie your hatred of monarchy produced and to painfully regret the fruit of your views against a good king.

And so we have peacock adament that he is no IRI appologist, and is focussing on real islamophobia, yet chritians were not doing this //www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19780692 or a tiy bit of what we saw in afghanistan or Iran for 33 years to their own people, yes christian extremists do killings and there is a real islamophobia, but nothing on the scale the picture represents or what muslim extremists are doing on their own people.  Western societies are handling islamophobia, but legitimate fears against extremism should not be covered up.  Religious Extremism and MeK must be brought down and we need not hide behind islamophobia as a way to deny extremism exists on a scale far far worse than islamophobia.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Islamo-extremism-phobia is a legitimate concern.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Its about fear of Intolerant groups, and no one will allow a person to cover up the intolerance that IRI extremism represents, because it is a legitimate fear.  It dares to say that values that belong to the muslim religion are beyond criticism and may not be fought over.  This is the same as saying that god gave you a conscience so that you should not use it.  Now that zionists are intolerant and racist extremists does not excuse the IRI, its a total distraction, the IRI and its extremism for 80 million iranians suffering at the hands of their crimes is the primary concern of Iranians, Iranians can't juggle 22 watermellons at once, they can hardly handle the 11 watermellons of islamo-extremism as we can see from the last 33 years of history. 

Islamophobia is not a major concern, moderate muslims, who like their counterparts in the west are secular and who denounce corruption and criminal actions by muslim clergy and their use of religion for power are infact not a source of phobia in western societies. What you do in your home, provided it s lawful, is no ones business and freedom of religion is respected far more than there is a phobia towards it.  The picture is therefore a misrepresentation of reality.  The real phobia on the subject is due to the militancy of these ignorant fascst extremists.  Todays news is an illustration of what we all witness daily and it is sadly a tool misused in politicians hands and exploited for profit. //www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19780692

Peacock, you are not a monarchist, nor are you a nationalist, your views are ignorant on the subject and while there is some islamophobia, it doesn't justify, you pulling a fast one over the eyes of people here to make excuses for the IRI and distract us from Iranians main problems which are internal.  The IRI needs to be brought to justice, period. 

 


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Then apply the rule evenly.

by Shepesh on

Then apply the rule evenly. Why did you support people like Covenant ?


Peacock_Feather

Zendanian

by Peacock_Feather on

I would like to get into this more with you on another occasion. I am short for time at the moment. Sorry.

But if you understood Paulo Freire correctly you would know that what you say isn't the case at all. Nor is your own reading of the contemporary situation in the Islamic world a correct one because it is the reading of a Western media influenced Islamophobe. In other words, your views of Islam are unhistorical, unnuanced and resemble more those of Geert Wilders than, say, a Jurgen Habermas or any of the contemporary Frankfurt school Marxist figures of Europe. That aside, the vocal voices on this site simply have zero credibility to be speaking to this issue in any real depth. As for those on the streets demonstrating Youtube videos: they do not represent the totality of the Muslim world, nor is Islam a monolith to be reduced to a single totality.

That aside, I remind readers of the reaction of the church and Christian congregation worldwide when Nikos Kazantakis' book The Last Temptation of Christ was released as a film in 1987/88 starring William Dafoe as a very wordly, lusty and undivine Jesus. Christians were foaming at the mouth in the same fashion picketing theaters and generally acting like jerks around the world the same way Muslims are being accused today. And let us not forget the abortion clinic doctors in the US murdered by crazed Christian fundalooniests.

I am no IRI apologist either so sing that one to the marines. 

See you in a few days. Have fun...


Zendanian

Paulo Freire is all about liberation and cooperation,

by Zendanian on

Today's "angry Muslims" on the streets are all about subjugation, and supremacy over all others.

How dare IR apologists try to use Freire most democratic teachings as a fig leaf to hide their own fascistic tendencies. Only on IC!!! 

Today's Islam is its own worst enemy.


Peacock_Feather

Demo

by Peacock_Feather on

Thanks to you, good friend.

What I don't understand about this unholy alliance is that it is an alliance of convenience which eventually will come to the disadvantage of one party in the current unholy alliance, viz. the Jews. Be as it may that the white Anglo-European Western society considers Muslims their primary enemy today, there is no guarantee that if the enemy is defeated in theory, the Christian white Anglo-European Westerner won't suddenly turn once again on the Jew (his historical enemy). The bottom line is that white Anglo-European racism merely changes its signifiers from one era to the next while its fundamental subtext and context remains the same. Black and Jew of one era become brown and Muslim enemies of the following era.  

You ever read Paulo Freire, esp. this? His theories on the pedagogy of oppression are pretty potent to unpack and analyze the dynamic underlined here.


Peacock_Feather

And in my experience

by Peacock_Feather on

Those who recoil from the term are usually the contemporary Nazis among us.


Roozbeh_Gilani

"Islamophobia"

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

In my experience, people who constantly use the term "Islamophobia" are the very ones who suffer from sever cases of:

"Jew-Phobia"

"Bahai-phobia"

"work-phobia"

"woman-phobia"

Basically the very same people who have been causing this backlash against the vast majority of muslims who have nothing to do with the terrorist and reactionary aspirations of the tiny minority of the Islamo fascists who have Hijacked an entire religion.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Peacock_Feather

Interesting

by Peacock_Feather on

The contingency is flagging my own comments on my own blog.


vildemose

 Not "Islamophobia", but

by vildemose on

 Not "Islamophobia", but rather "Islamofascism-phobia"

 Muslim Brotherhood, and including Hamas and al-Qaeda, khomeinist-Shariati cult of martyrdom (reactionary and militant Shia) and their many imitators, all of whom espouse an ideology that bears an obvious family resemblance to fascism � especially its Nazi-commie variety.

 

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir


Demo

Thank you!

by Demo on

 

 

Even the two known historical enemies are in alliance now against such 'Phobia.' Below is one example of such among many in making:

//icnexus.org/?page_id=7

 


Peacock_Feather

There are no bigger bigots in the world today

by Peacock_Feather on

Than Zionists and their assorted hangers-on, such as are in ample evidence on this site. Everyone else pales in comparison.


MRX

Not the same

by MRX on

population of jews were small even before holocust. Jews did not have any intention of imposing their religon on other people. in fact in Germany of all places jews were largley assimilated due to a large intermarriage with Germans just prior to start of world war II. jews did not have any desire to live with 9th century mentality, raping, torturing, executing and stoning women or blowing up themselves or others.

islamists are some thing else. if they are not defeated the whole world will fall into dark ages. with so many examples do you really need more evidence?


Faramarz

Horse Feathers!

by Faramarz on

 

 

There was no such thing as Islamophobia in Europe before Khomeini's grand arrival, hostage taking and terrorism. Back then, Middle East was regarded as an exotic place with an amazing history and culture.

This whole mess was brought on by the Islamic Republic and later on by al-Qaeda.

Please enjoy it to the fullest!


Anonymous Observer

Ahhhh...Wahid, you're soooo anti-bigotry (NOT)

by Anonymous Observer on

Now, in your cartoon, replace the words Islamophobia with Baha'iphobia, and "Mohammed Cartoons" with "Wahid's Baha'i bashing blogs" and you will get the picture.  

Sobering, isn't it?


vildemose

 Today everyone wants to

by vildemose on


Zendanian

ترجمه فارسی آیات شیطانی (در دو جلد)

Zendanian


 ترجمه فارسی  آیات شیطانی  (در دو جلد)   شماره ۱۰۳  و شماره ۱۰۴    //www.ketabfarsi.org/ketabkhaneh/ketabkhani/aa_7.html

Zendanian

Ultra conservative Islam is the main cause of Isalmophobia today

by Zendanian on

If it waqsn't for the ultra conservative reactionary Islam of Wahabi's in Saudi Arabia, Khomeinists in Islamic Republic of Hell, Salafi's of Al-Azhar center and... no one would have given a hoot about a cartoon of a religious figure.

All these over reactions from ultra-conservative, ultra-reactionary "moslems" is basically a continuation fo the campaign they had against Satanic Verses.

In that instance the reactionary Muslims ultimately were not able to do squat, except killing a translator or two. That book was published in many languages, and now its a masterpiece of 20th century literature. It has also been translated into Persian ans is available for free on line

آیات شیطانی ، شماره ۱۰۳  

   //www.ketabfarsi.org/ketabkhaneh/ketabkhani/aa_7.html

Most probably the current hate campaign by Muslims will be as futile, as the one against Satanic Verses.

Congratulations.