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Ashk Dovom

You certainly have legitimate questions that we all know the answer but don’t expect to get a response from “her majesty” or anyone from Pahlavi’s. The only response you'll get here are from those such as DK who have made fortune being part of the notorious regime of the Shah, and sit in their luxurious condo or mansion somewhere in Europe or US advertizing Dictatorship.

BeninTx

Hiding behind a smokescreen

Here we go again! An important question has been asked and what follows is a filibuster of ridiculous nonsense, a smokescreen to fill up the space and evade the whole issue. How long and how far can one run away from the truth? How long are you willing to remain a spokesperson for tyranny and ignorance? 

Answer: To Her Crying and Ever Complaining "Subject" ...

Golesorkhi wanted to be executed ... 

The Shah wanted to pardon him as he did with his culprits in exchange of admitting that they had acted against the Head of State punishable by death according to our imperfect Constitution ( itself inherited from the Qajar Era) :

Cyrus Amir-Mokri on Pros and Cons of 1906 Constitution 

The Shah often pardoned those who tried to kill him if they were caught alive as one fellow who later became the head of the State Television, a communist I believe ( I have forgotten his name). He was actually executed after the revolution by your Republic's tribunals for being a "Tagouti" and "enemy of god on earth". 

But in the face of repeated acts often from the same groups then no leader particularly in a nation known for it's violence can show total impunity at the expense of being in turn accused of deemed "weakness" be it by other power hungry generals and even neighboring powers.

Shah Escapes Assassination Attempt (1964)

Princess Ashraf Escapes Assassination Attempt on French Riviera (1977)

Imperial Iran wasn't perfect. But it was no better no worse than neighbouring Turkey often pointed as a role model by your Jomhurykhah Likeminds. If you think that the Turkey of the 70's or 80's where Midnight Express was set was any better then you must explain why the same critics were not directed to that country then but only ours when it came to Amnesty International Reports ? 

Midnight Express (1978) - Original Trailer

Revolutionaries hang Reza Shah's Bust at Paris Embassy (1979)

Only to deliver a fellow who on the otherhand deserved to be busted 10 years later but wasn't:

pictory: Ayatollah Khomeiny's Funeral Goes Wild (1989) 

In the case of Golesorkhi the shah insisted several times partly on the insistence of the Shahbanou to pardon the fellow and to the very last minute Golesorkhi was offered a way out of his predicament which he stubbornly refused.

In this particular case he was intending to abduct the King's children and Wife therefore his very future dynasty.

That constituted an Act of Treason that set a wrong example for other zealous fanatics of his kind to reproduce.

Fatemi had also called for the execution of the Shah and Queen Soraya and it is no surprise that for someone who was sworn in government to serve his King and Country he had to pay for his own treason according to the laws of the land:

Isn't Calling for the Head of State's Death usually called "Treason"?

Now one can claim why were the laws unjust ...

But then It's so easy to demand a regime to reform itself overnight by expecting them to accomplish overnight what other Modern and today Parliamentary Monarchies only achieved after centuries.

In Great Britain there is a Treason Act ameneded several times but which prevails to this day.

1351 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Treason Act

Treasons Act 1534 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Treason Act 1814 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Any action against the Head of State is punishable today at worst by an imprisonment but the Queen's ancestors didn't hesistate to impale deemed traitors:

1981 - Trooping the Colour - Queen Shot At

The above fellow actually was jailed for 5 years under the treason act:

BBC ON THIS DAY | 14 | 1981: Queen's 'fantasy assassin' jailed

As for Hoveyda his fate is no different from that of Sir Thomas Moore imprisoned and sacrificed on the Altar of Politics because he did not satisfy Henry VIII's wish to part from his wife Anne Bolyne in order not to part from the Catholic Church:

‪A Matter of Conscience: Henry VIII and Thomas More (clip)

Well Queen elizabeth is the decendent of this deemed tyrannical king who otherwise is deemed the founding father of Modern Britain despite having beheaded several of his wives ...

The Queen of England would not be able to boast as being the Queen of a democratic Nation if her ancestor Charles II was not restored on the Throne after the beheading of his predecessor Charles I ( and the inception of a Theocracy like that of Iran with Cromwell as Lord Protector aka Velayateh Fagih) and the establishment of two fundamental drafts which went down as the building blocks of British Democracy: The Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights

The Magna Carta which abolished Torture or execution for one's beliefs  but even that did not truly take root until the Restoration:

PERSIAN MAGNA CARTA: UK Foreign Office Spokesman on Cyrus The Great's Charter

And the the Bill of Rights which later inspired the american one:

RESTORATION: Britain's 'Glorious Revolution' of 1688 and the 'Bill of Rights'

JOMHURYATKHAH VS JOMHURYKHAH: UK & US Bill of Rights - Similarities & differences

What happened to Hoveyda is a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions but then so was Thomas More's death. The major difference is that the Shah did not wish nor order Hoveyda to be put to death.

The Shah is said to have even asked Hoveyda to leave the country but that he refused ...

Shortly after his fall from grace hoveyda was actually invited to the Palace to celebrate the Crown Prince's birthday as late as 1978 :

He actually can be seen in this clip @ 1:22 he is just behind the Prince and Princess Farahnaz cutting the Birthday Cake:  

‪Googoosh at Reza Pahlavi's Birthday

In addition having appointed Bakhtiar he probably hoped that Hoveyda along with other Ministers arrested would have a chance to get away with it given that Khomeiny claimed to be a Holy Man. He actually spared Khomeiny's life back in the 60's thinking however naivly but I think sincerely that he was indeed a holy man who would not resort to violence or blind vengeance.

He thought he could sacrifice Hoveyda politically but never physically for the sake of civil peace like what happened with Mossadegh ( also put on house arrest but never executed) but that sooner or later he would be set free. No one expected the level of violence that occured after the revolution all the more that it was spearheaded by a deemed "holy man" ...

Alas the unfortunate interview Hoveyda was to give while in prison to a fairly clumsy Belgian Journalist at the time did not help either:

ENDURING GUILT: French Journalist who interviewed Hoveyda (27/05/2010)

If anything the Shah should be held accountable for this misjudgment which proved fatal to his regime but  then if he is to be judged he has to be in the light of Iran's history which was never democratic anyhow and not that of some of the West's most perfectly established democracies.

The British Monarchs didn't hesistate to chop heads or send their opponents to the Tower of London. No one is blaming the current heirs for the crimes or blood spilled by their ancestors. Certainly Charles II wasn't so I don't see why RP 2 or the Royal family have to be held responsible for the deemded blood spilled under their dynasty ...

something which RP 2 has willingly accepted to do.

ROYAL ACCOUNTABILITY: Crown Prince Reza on Torture During His Father's Rule

Personally I wouldn't because I believe most of the people who were arrested during the Shah's rule were not innocent either:

Alleged SAVAK Victim testifies on an American Liberal TV

Shahrnush Parsipur: "I was Never Physically Tortured by the SAVAK"

But well RP 2 is apologetic for the shortcomings of his father's reign and that in itself deserves some respect from people who probably wouldn't have the same decency and guts to judge their own father as severely.

Besides The Shah never claimed to be a democrat ... but at best a patriot !

If the nation rejected him and had it's share of vengence only to deliver a regime far more cruel and with far more blood on it's hands then I believe it is to that generation who made that poor choice which costs our nation far more blood and collateral damages than meets to eye to apologize ...

 'BOOBOOLI, BOOBOOLI': Bahram Moshiri Mocks & insults Shah’s Executed Generals

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES: Bahram Moshiri Slams Pahlavi Era Gun Ban Policies

Definitively NOT our current Royals who are Royal by Birth Right whether you folks wish to accept it or not is irrelevent !

Your Republic's President has Never apologized for the crimes committed under his government:

pictory: Heated Debate between Abolhasan Banisadre and Fereidoune Sahebjam (1989)

And to this day speaks with an arrogance on the Pahlavis which given his own disastrous governance should put any Jomhurykhah to shame:

Banisadr On Risks and Conditions Of Seeing Reza Pahlavi Restored

If you want to ask Accountability from Us Monarchists then clean before your own Doors for your own Misjudgment of putting an Illigitimate government of Thugs to power:

pictory: Bakhtiar Denounces Bazargan's Provisionary Government in exile (1979)

Why should we apologize when you refuse it to yourselves on fake grounds that YOUR Revolution was highjacked:

 Constitutionalist's Rebuttal of Republican Assessment that Revolution was "Highjacked"

ALL Systems of government be them Democratic or Not were founded at some point on innocent blood spilled. So if you wish to judge two systems of government which ruled Iran, a country which itself Never was a democracy not even during Mossadegh's term:

THE PAST IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY: How Would You Evaluate Iran's Democracy Index in 1953 ?

Then you need to compare both Records instead of indulging in this ridiculous Blame game which has lasted far too long. YOU GOT YOUR VENGEANCE:

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: IRI's Reign of Terror Begins (BBC Report 1979)

What you Delivered was a DISASTER of tragic Comic proportions:

SATIRE: The Burqa Republic of Our IRANICAN Dreams ;0)

That in itself entitles us in return to ask YOU Jomhurykhahs ( SECULAR OR NOT) to Apologize in return or be held equally accountable intellectually for your poor choice in putting these Mullahs in Power.

Is not amazing to hear you folks demand accountability from us when you refuse it for your own Poor Choice ?

It’s fine to look for excuses offered to you by Abbas Milani ( himself a Maoist) only to ease your own conscience and dismiss your own or your parents responsibility in what happened. Shirin Ebadi a who became a Judge thanks to the Shah’s regime spitted on the very regime that offered her those opportunities but nevertheless Shouted « Marg Bar Shah » and saw « Khomeiny on the Moon » and endorses the Revolution despite the fact that it sent another far more éminent woman than herself to execution :

A Women for All Seasons : Farokhroo Pārsā (1922-1980)

Yet now the very lady who opposed Regime change and dismisses the Crown Prince’s efforts to bring Khamanei to Trial in La Hague is as much in exile like the rest of us miserable lot.

So Believe me She too has alot to explain too.

But hasn’t to date !

Same for that other Old Bag Hypocrite Mehrangiz Kar :

If Not then Don't You Folks and your Jomurykahh Likeminds Lecture us 33 Years On from your High Horse cause quite Frankly You ain't Qualified ...

COMPLAINING JOMHURYKHAH: What Have the Pahlavis EVER Done For Us ? ;0)

Best,

DK

An Un Apologetic Constitutional Monarchist

"A Country that Loses it's Poetic Vision is a Country that faces death"-Saul Bellow. 

One Question for Her Majesty

Talleyrand said about The Bourbons that: "they never forgot anything and never learned anything.”This comment about the Bourbons seems to be somewhat accurate about Her Majesty Shahbanou Farah. I only have one question for her: if the Shah was such a saint that you are making him to be, and was beyond and above all meanness and pettiness as you are saying he was, why did he sanction the execution of Khosro Golesorkhi and Keramatollah Daneshian? Here for the moment I am not mentioning hundreds of other Iranian youth who were imprisoned and executed for trumped up charges. Just let us find a reasonable explanation for the execution of these two. And if Shahbanou was such a kind hearted, considerate Empress as she seems to be, why did she keep quiet about it and did not try to intervene? Let us ask Her Majesty this simple question and see if she has a reasonable answer, or maybe she prefers to go down in history as someone who never "forgot" her role as an apologist for a tyranny and never "learned anything". Let us see if we get an answer for this question, because my next question is going to be about, The Shah incarcerating his loyal Prime Minister Amir Abbas Hoveyda in order to save his own neck. If these acts do not constitute meanness and pettiness and egregious crime then what is?

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my answer will be

a) they use to say TA SHAH KAFAN NASHAVAD........

SO where is that promissed VATTAN?

b) talkin were always cheap(just look at your avatar )you're freedom of speech includes insults to a fine Iranian first lady and a truly hurt wife and mother.

shame on carrying the same stuff on your shoulder all these years its called DOUCH BAG take it down please.

Maziar

That's what happens when you trust the wrong people!

That's what happens when you trust the wrong people! You get kicked out!

The Shah entered into alliance with the wrong kind of people thinking that they would be behind him but they stabbed him in the back! He could have learnt from the fate of his father but sadly he did not. Both father and son ended up in exile. The tragic part is that Reza Shah's mausoleum was destroyed. Let's hope that Shah's tomb won't be vandalized once the slow transition to an islamic state in Egypt is complete.

The moral of the story: be careful who you are dealing with!

You are right Elham57

I am twice your age, and know what exactly happened. Despite minor problems, Pahlavi era was a golden era for the majority of Iranians. They had security, peace, prosperity, opportunity, dignity, happiness, etc. When the silent majority of Iranians tell their foreign friends about pre-revolution situation in Iran, they are asked "Why did you do the Revolution?. That is why majority are silent!

"These people who criticise pre-revolution era, not only are stupid and clueless, they have and are benefitting from the mollah regime!

Great documentary

I gotta tell you. I was born in 1979, and I know many by their own admission, were "fooled" by Khomeini, and now are remorseful, but some people on IC, still are, as stupid and clueless today as they were more than three decades ago.

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I have two outstanding problems with this video as follows:

a: The Shah is dead, and

b: Farah Diba is as stupid and clueless today as she was more than three decades ago.