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Zion, Why Are You Surprised?

This is the "Zionist conspiracy" crowd.  Do you have seasonal allergies?  You do?  Then it's a Zionist conspiracy.  That is why they are still stuck in the 7th Century.  They do not have the intellectual courage, the sense of responsibility or the honesty to confront their societal problems.  It's just much easier to blame it on someone else, especially if it's something (conspiracy theory), that by its nature, cannot be subjected to a factual investigation.  No proof is needed.  Just throw it out there, and it will take on a life on its own.  Who knows, maybe a Jew walked by the American Embassy in Tehran when hostages were taken.  Incidentally, there was recently a video posted on this site of Khamenei himself visiting the hostages.  I guess he was "in" on the Zionist conspiracy too!!  I even had one of these clowns, on this site, claim that an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi website that he was quoting material from was a "Zionist" operation!  So, don't waste your time.  You will only get a headache. 

Persia is Eternal.

IRI is not popular

Mehdi now is very different from 20 years and both are different than 30 years ago.

1) Thirty years ago the Shah was running Iran. Then Iran was much less repressive than now in terms of personal freedom; religion; political freedom and minority rights.
2) Twenty years ago Iran had just finished a ten year long war and people particularly Iranians were willing to give the IRI a break hoping it would reform.
3) Now IRI has had plenty of both peace and time to reform. Instead they have got more repressive and left people without any hope for improvement.

There is no way to excuse IRI's behavior because of MKO or Mossad. Blaming IRI's actions on others is old stuff; we are not buying it anymore. Others are not forcing IRI to kill children and enforce draconian Sharia laws on Iranian people; it is the Mullahs. If IRI is so great, the why is it that everyone I know or knew in Iran is either trying to get out or has already got out?

The only people who idolize IRI are hard core Islamists mostly in Arab states who see IRI as a rival for the west, not the Iranian people inside or outside. The only "power" IRI has is because of 150$ a barrel oil which won't last. People are getting sick of this nonsense now.

PS,
You are right about MKO initiating the hostage crisis. But the Mullahs could have stopped it and did not. They fell for it and went along so they are responsible.

The Moment

Look what we have here from the "Mehdi, Q And Co." gang:

'...the "hostage crisis" in order to destroy Iran and the mullahs didn't realize that even Mosad agents were involved in it.'

I think we just had the privilege of witnessing the actual moment of birth of a new shameless antisemitic lie. Mazal tov.

The older ones, like The bloody matzas, desecration of hosts, The Elders of Zion or similar conspiracies about Jewish evil control of world affairs ... were also devised by people as pathetic as this sorry bunch when they found themselves in as desperate a position as these retards do now. Millions died afterwards as a result. Isn't that nice?

Lying. That is what you religiously worship, isn't it?

Shamse Vazir: IRI is not failing - Iranians are gaining power

When the "IRI" was far more repessive than today, 20-30 years ago, Israel and the US and their front groups such as SCE had NO PROBLEM with it. They loved it! Heck, they even sold guns (what did they think it would be used for?) But now all of a sudden, they have all these front groups popping up everywhere. And a tiny fraction of Iranians who still carry some hatred against the days of the past, now find an opportunity to "get even" with the help of the international organized crime, AIPAC and others.

The regime has started to realize that US-Iran animosity is something they were forced into by MKO and Mosad agents who only wanted a weaker Iran. Ahmadinejad is realizing that he has no fight with the US. It was the MKO who started the "hostage crisis" in order to destroy Iran and themullahs didn't realize that even Mosad agents were involved in it. They thought they should inherit is as it seemed the fashionable thing to do those days. So now Israel is going nuts because there is one more country that could possibly become strong in the area.

Get your facts straight, man. You are out of date. 

Opposing IRI not equal to supporting MKO

Jamshid Jaan,

I admit to having defended NIAC in the past (and beginning to regret it)). You are absolutely right in the assertion that IRI supporters are criticizing Nazanin in reverse. Some people just don't want the IRI criticized. This is because they are Moslem first and *maybe* Iranian if at all. They pretend that IRI the same as Iran to get support from patriotic Iranians. The silliest statement is that because MKO opposes IRI then anyone who opposes IRI is MKO!!

Islamists see IRI failing and are afraid that when it fails it will take down radical Islam with it. They see Iranians everywhere rebel against this sort of oppression and react by lashing out. They are most afraid that Iranians are rejecting Islam in mass.

Rest assured my friend that people are waking up and taking a stand. No amount of bulling and fake attempts to equate opposition to IRI's cruelty with the MKO or war will intimidate us. We will keep protesting inhuman actions of IRI and radical Islamists.

jamshid: MKO also says they are anti-war

Do you believe them? It's not the words that count. It's the ACTION.

To: the resident Hyprocrite

I once criticized NIAC for not taking a clear and firm stand on human rights violations in Iran. I also ciriticized it for their close relations with IRI fronts in the US.

I was immediately attacked and bombarded by The Resident Hyprocrite of this site, as well as other IRI apologists who lectured me on how NIAC is not a "political" or "human rights" organziation.

That it is perfectly fine to have an anti-war stand but leave human rights issues to others. That it is perfectly fine for NIAC to have close contacts with IRI elements, after all it is for a greater cause.

Now The Resident Hyprocrite as well as other IRI apologists are criticizing Nazanin EXACTLY for the same reasons in reverse. They ask why wasn't she carrying anti-war signs, or why was she among a crowd that among many diverse groups, included a few pro-Israelis?

She is also criticized for having affected only the "Western citizens". 

So what about NIAC? Who is the target audience of NIAC? And why it is so wrong for a brave woman to target that same audience, but it is perfectly fine for a well funded NIAC to do the same?

The truth is that Nazanin has clearly stated many times that she is anti-war, but that has not stopped her to be a pro-human rights at the same time.

This organzied and methodical smear campaign with the goal of painting human rights activists as pro-war does not deceive anyone.

There is a difference between being anti-war and pro-IRI, and being anti-war and pro-human rights.

You may be able to continue exploiting the people of Iran, and fight for the survival of your "vali ne'mat", the IRI, but history proves that it can't go on forever.

One thing that is certain is that your organzied smear campaign is gone bankrupt. It has failed badly. Time to look for other methods of deception.

Why be such an active IRI apologist, Q?

'What is the argument NAJ is making? I understand the change she is seeking, but WHO is supposed to carry it out? That person could NOT Ahmadinejad as these methods by people who are NO THREAT to him politically, are ignored or worst backfire. And nearly everyone who does human rights organizing against Iran does not believe in changing anyone's mind inside the IRI anyway.
That only leaves one entity that can be affected by these protests which are by western citizens inside western countries: The same entity that the pro-Israel protestors are after and that is THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.'

Is that right? And that means only war, right? You can think of no other kind of pressure besides war? It is either war or leaving your IRI friends alone to do what they want to the defenseless people inside Iran. Is that right?

What about South Africa Q? Do you equally consider those who asked for world pressure and boycott on the apartheid regime in South Africa as warmongers who were asking for bombs?

Or even funnier, you bunch are hyper-active activists outside the Palestinian territories when it comes to your dear Palestinians. Even assuming the lies you make up about Israel is even remotely true, does that mean you are a war monger asking for bombs to fall over the people's heads in "occupied Palestine"?

Why are you so active for the well being of others and so hostile to those who raise a feeble voice for that of your own people? Assuming you consider them your people. It sure seems not to be the case despite your loud claims. Engaging in lies and deceptions as an IRI apologist again, why Q? Why? Why don't you feel at least a little sympathy for people inside Iran and what they are going through

'I have to say Mehdi has a good point.'
After all I have seen from both you and Mehdi especially on this thread, that doesn't surprise me a bit.

lol

"I speak on behalf of all the oppressed".

get over yourself lady.

Are supporters of SCE all masters of deception?

Dear gold fish,

Where did I threaten IRANdokht? What I simply said that my previous response to her was deleted. Apparently I am not allowed to answer her false representation that seems to be the hallmark of all SCE supporters. How is that a threat. I also pointed out that I learned how her kind deal wit the truth. Why do you people see the need to misrepresent everything?

Dear SCE campaign,

I have to say Mehdi has a good point.

I, too, continuously hear "No War, No Executions". I would like to believe that both the human rights message (that I agree with) and the anti war message are loud and clear.

Unfortunately, I do not see this from Ms. Afshar Jam or generally from other people who claim this.

I see and read the quote, but how many "no to war" signs were being carried by the protestors compared to anti ahmadinejad signs? There was a vigil and "wall of shame" on human rights, but where was the vigil and "wall of shame" against war?

In an environment where many pro-Israel protestors who are openly calling for bombing Iran, I ask you, which message will be carried by the media?

I feel like a SMALL amount of media savviness and understanding of the political economy is essential to any movement, I see very little of it in SCE and NAJ.

What is the road map here? Protests are supposed to CHANGE BEHAVIOR. Anti war forces are making a clear argument to American politicians: PEOPLE DO NOT SUPPORT WAR which is a policy of the Bush Administration.

What is the argument NAJ is making? I understand the change she is seeking, but WHO is supposed to carry it out? That person could NOT Ahmadinejad as these methods by people who are NO THREAT to him politically, are ignored or worst backfire. And nearly everyone who does human rights organizing against Iran does not believe in changing anyone's mind inside the IRI anyway.

That only leaves one entity that can be affected by these protests which are by western citizens inside western countries: The same entity that the pro-Israel protestors are after and that is THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

So, at the end, the question we have to ask ourselves is not THAT there are human rights problems in Iran (we all know there are), but WHO is supposed to address them or stop them? If the protest is in New York City, it can only be the US Government, which is to say: we want the US to solve our problems, which is to say we support intervention or sanctions by the US (What else can the US do?) . Am I wrong? What other impact does this protest have? Please tell me.

Compare this to people who are fighting for better conditions INSIDE Iran, taking real risks WITHOUT being connected to America either militarily or financially.

mehdi

برای چی‌ برای مردم خط و نشون میکشی، مگه "ایران دخت" چی‌ گفت، که حالا به اون هم گیر می‌‌دی.تو خودت رو پیرو حضرت محمد می‌‌دونی ولی‌ از مکارم اخلاقش هیچ بویی نبردی.

Definition of "Deception"

Deception is NOT a clear and obvious lie in such a way that anybody could easily see that lie. According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, Deception means "... to lead astray or frustrate usually by underhandedness. deceive implies imposing a false idea or belief that causes ignorance..."

So, by simply "saying" one is against war it does not mean one is truly against war. It should also show in actions. Nazanin's actions are asking for forceful intervention. Such forceful intervention by foreighn forces is NOT justified at all. Such forceful intervention is the first step towards eventual war. That is the practical definition of forceful intervention. So "saying" she doesn't like war does not fool us. She needs to "show" it in her actions. She is showing the complete opposite. She is simply and ONLY helping build a case for the demonization of Iran which is heavily being worked on by certain corrupt elements in the world.

SCE is deceptive - signature handiwork of the MKO.

IRANdokht: Apparently my response will never make it here

No matter how polite I write it gets deleted. So you be happy that you "won." I know how to deal with Bahai and their version of truth from now on. Glad to know your kind too.

No To War!

“Change in Iran will not come through war and bombs; that’s exactly what Ahmadinejad wants. Change will only come from a revolt by the Iranian people, backed by the West, which needs to cry out today on behalf of these children and against Iran’s violation of human rights.”   Nazanin Afshin-Jam

Following is a part of speech by Nazanin Afshin-Jam at a rally in front of the United Nations on September 22, 2008 :

Stop Child Executions Campaign

A proponent of democracy & human rights? Suuuuuuuuure

"I am going to follow your lead and move on too. I have said all that I could on this post"

Yes fingerpointing, slandering, mudslinging lying Gestapo madam, you sure have.

I responded to your nasty accustations and insults against me, but the administrators didn't post it, but they did post your insults and mudslinging.

My response to your ridiculous comments weren't rude or insulting, it was about non-democratic ass-u-mers.

Is this one going to be censored also?

Democracy, suuuuuuuuuuure.

To David ET, ba panbeh sar boridan.....

Please spare us the rusty slogans. No one here is against "human rights" and no one is "fearing" the unity of Iranians. Some people are very legitimately protesting the use of "human rights" as a political tool to justify illegal pressures on Iran.

Maybe most people can't see it and they're just happy to hear someone bash Ahmadinejad or they get easily fooled by the nice sensationalist speech of Ms Canada, but there clearly is an intense political agenda behind this campaign.

Even though Ms Afshinjan claims not belonging to any "political" fraction and only carrying about "human rights", she manages to take position on Iran's nuclear program and directly calling for the interference of Western powers in "support" of a revolution in Iran!!

She uses the same lies, distorted information and propaganda that the neocons, the Zionists, the MKO and the monarchists use to portray Iran as an imminent threat to the world that needs to be dealt with asap, and all this under the sacred banner of "humans rights" and "saving the children".

Please remember that My enemy's enemy is NOT always my friend. We need to be more vigilant than this and not let ourselves be so easily manipulated by such sensationalist campaigns keh ba panbeh sar miboran!

Kaveh: Review

Just do a very quick survey of my comments and yours. Who do you find obsessed with name-calling and slogan throwing? I still have no urge to call you names. But I understand that you do. I feel your pain.

I am not a supporter of Ahmadinejad but Ahmadinejad's very stinking underwear is worth more than all of Israel. This is a scientific fact - not just some remark or insult.

Mehdi....

It's hard to understand delusional paranoids like yourself. God knows I've tried.

For the record, I never had any free money from anyone, Arab or otherwise, Every dime I have, I worked my ass off to earn, ad I;m not going to apologize for it. Nobody has ever given me anything, and I dont want anything that's not mine. Whatever it is that led you to believe otherwise had led you down the wrong path, plain and simple.

No, you can't clarify the rantings of a raving lunatic such as yourself, so don't even try. Never again?

Right, never again do I want to see you or your worthless miserable kind again. You are just another IRI apologist living in paradise here in the US, having your cake and eating it too.

Call Mahmoud and ask him if you can carry his Members Only jacket on the plane ride back to Tehran.

Thank you Nadia

Nadia jan, Sadegh jan and dear Killjoy,

I am going to follow your lead and move on too. I have said all that I could on this post. 

Thank you

IRANdokht

Mehdi: a lot of words, no substance

I read your response a few times and I am still trying to figure out why you are so dead against human rights activists.

You present no substance in your argument, so I have to go read between your lines (which is definitely not my expertese) and conclude that your problem with anyone who speaks of the atrocities of the regime in Iran, is solely based on the fact that the jewish iranian groups are also supporting the human rights. WOW! That one blew my mind! It sure sounds like hate, when you are only concerned with who is saying it, rather than what's being said, you lose credibility.

You are accusing SCE to be helping something that would not be in the interest of iranian public: that shows you have not even heard a word of what Nazanin has said in a few speeches that were posted.

You keep speaking of the enemies who are waiting to do harm to Iranians. What made you even assume that SCE is on their side? That concerns me because you are basing your argument on your imagination and nothing more. The facts are there for you to see, if you don't want to spend the time to listen or read, then please keep away from passing judgment. 

Your problem with SCE also seems to be due to Nazanin not speaking of Arab/Israeli conflict. Well, I have news for you: she's made it clear that she is fighting for the juvenile offenders who are being executed which is mostly done in Iran, some few numbers also in Saudi Arabia, Yemen etc...  Now that's what she's fighting for. You want to fight for the palestinians who are in Israeli prisons? start your own campaign! 

But if you want to silence anyone who's fighting for other human rights cases,  then you are on the wrong side of humanity. Plain and simple. Fair?  I think not!

IRANdokht

The beautiful Iranian queen

The beautiful Iranian queen Nazanin has just earned the "great Iranian" status among the people of Iran.

Not only her great personality made her loveable, but now that she has sided with the people of Iran and exposed the fascist regime in Iran, she has definitely earned the respect of the world and all Iranians who love their country.

Sepaas and shab bekheyr/Buenas noches

Killjoy

Thank you for being so understanding and  a gentleman. Best wishes

IRANdokht

Thank you and best wishes

Now I will take Killjoy's advice and move on to other matters as well

solh va doosti/paz a vosotros/paix et amitié

ناتاليا

Kaveh: Hard to understand for a land grab club member

Once you taste that "frre" money stolen from the "sub-human" Arabs, it is VERY hard to see the truth anymore. I am not sure if I can clarify it any further. But don't let my comments disturn you. Go back to your chanting "Never Again! Never Again!" Maybe you will feel better soon.

Mehdi Hezbollahi

What is the point? There are many jews who feel that AIPAC does not serve Israel's interest as Shah was stating here. The Shah, being from the old school, went a little to far with control of media, finance claims. Have you heard of the J street? 

Do you know that during this same time that your are talking about, Iran & Israel were building a secret oil pipeline in Israel (approved by the Shah)? Do you know that the Israelis, during the same time were giving missile technology to Iran and Iran was going to manufacture Israeli missiles in Iranian factories (approved by the Shah)? 

Mehdi Hezbollahi, give us a break. Khak Bar sareh Hamemon keh Hamvatan mesleh to hast!

Mehdi

In all seriousness, what is it that you have an issue with?

What is the proof that you have the the SCE is less than honest, or less than accurate or less than decent? If this is the case, I think we all would like to know.

If you are going to answer with references to any entities other than SCE and the IRI, then it's hopeless.

MargBarIsrael: You are the last thing I would consider hamvatan

Your seem far more concerned about your land grab club than Iran. In case I am mistaken, see this very short video to realize who is the REAL enemy of Iran since at least 1974:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kySR3fpa5s

IRANdokht: One more try

I have stated this over and over on this thread, but i will repeat it one more time.

I have no problem with anybody who is honestly and truly trying to improve conditions in Iran. I am all for it. But I will not support an activity that does far more harm to Iran than what it is trying to fix. See if you can grasp that.

My disagreement with SCE is essentially that its approach is an antagonistic approach. It means that essentially, they are starting a fight. Makes sense? Now, where does this fight go? How will it proceed? Will SCE single-handedly gather enough Iranians to support its cause? Is SCE getting the attention of a number of decent and benevolent groups and organizations who will honestly take proper steps to improve human rights conditions in Iran? Or will it primarily and without any doubt be used immediately by far worse criminals in order to justify their criminal intent?

If you decide to close your eyes and say, "All I want to do is to protest and I don't care what happens after that," then you can definitely find me on the side of IRI. I'd be suffering there, but what choice do I have? I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

So that is my disagreement. The main one. Of course, then when we inspect this motion more closely we find huge problems - such as outright lying and on the lighter side, misrepresenting facts.

I mentioned many times that the religious freedom issue or even executions and stoning etc is not STRICTLY a government/politic issue. So to present that to the world as such is treachery or ignorance - take your pick. Since my attempts at trying to clarify this issue was faced with no answer and denial, i am left with the suspicion that this is intentional and not out of ignorance.

I hope this clears the issue for you. If SCE or anybody, clean up their act and become honest and accurate and decent, I openly promise you here to support them. until them i feel the need to expose them for who they are and what they do. I am sorry if this seems to kill you little hope that this may open some room for the members of Baha'i. But it won't! If anything, such antagonistic tactics only brings the worst in a regime.

Also when I see openly admitted enemies of Iran are cheering for Nazanin and SCE, it does make me wonder and I am sorry but I cannot be bothered with troubles of religious freedom for the moment. Bigger, far more serious dangers are present. Amd I not seeing things the way they are? Am I not fair?

Mehdi Hezbollahi

So you admit it? You wish death to Iran my Country? You don't want Iran to be liberated from the IRI. Khak bar sareh Hamemon keh hamvatan mesleh to hast. 

Mehdi

Every single life counts! 

Would you say (hypothetically) that you changed your religion from islam to something else, do you think you'd deserve to be killed? or because you're just one person it wouldn't matter?

It's not a few scattered individuals who are being victims of the IRI Human Rights violations. More than half of the country is female, that's a large group of people who have less than a whole person's legal rights. 

The newpapers and the blogs are being closed and the individuals arrested, the students who dare to speak up are identified arrested or thrown out of windows to die. Juvenile offenders are being kept in prison and hanged when they are 18... there are just too many cases to speak of and count for you again. What's the use? you're not even reading the comments. You're too busy feeling victimized by the human rights activists!!!

Have you gone to Iran lately?  would you dare to do so? Why are you becoming the representative of a government that you do not even want to live under?

Why are you spreading lies about them and pretending that IRan is the garden of Eden and no atrocities are committed by the government? 

IRANdokht