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Known Nazi Zionist supporting Nazanin passionately

Just watch them how happy they are with Nazanin and her "fight for human rights." In case you didn't know Iraelis are the most passionate defenders of human rights! Haha. Funiest joke I ever told!

Kaveh Nouraee, I wrote a

Kaveh Nouraee,

I wrote a lengthy response to Irandokht's attacks and immature smearing campaign against me and it wasn't posted.

This site belongs to J.J. and/or anyone else and I respect their decisions and choices for it is theirs, although I at times may disagree with such decisions.

I agree with you that different topics should have their own place for discussion. But by no stretch of imagination did I try to distract the topic being discussed, in my opinion they were all relevant, and related.

CNN's decision to give coverage to human rights issues in Iran is relevant to this thread. Why don't we see reports on human rights issues in any other countries? In my opinion CNN's report on juvenile execution and Nazanin's activism and report (above) was not broadcasted based on clean journalism and nor care, but based on a deliberate political agenda which matches that of the neocons, although with a lot of effort in sugarcoating. They even had Asieh Namdar to do the interview, and not say Glen Beck.

You may agree or disagree.

Now we shall see more accusations, IRI apologists, anti-Americans, etc. Why are the character assasinations of some being allowed to be posted?

"It's not right to assume things and base your attacks and all these nonsense postings on your wrong assumptions, trying to smear dirt on an activist's good name with your false accusations.
If you only want to oppose her and defend the actions of IRI, then you don't have to watch the clip and get all wound up again. We've heard eough baseless attacks and insults". - Irandokht

"Hezbollahi's are just Lost angry men & women ...
What a Pathetic Bunch you make behind your anonymous posts but your negativeness won't discourage Nazanin nor all who support her Just cause". -D. Kadivar

etc.

You say you are Iranian, is everyone an Iranian and cares for their "hamvatans" here? No anti-Iranian agenda by anyone here? What do you think, since you say you care for Iranians?

Mehdi

For God's sake....say no to drugs. You are really frying your brain.

When did I ever say or suggest that I would want to see Iranian children killed? On the contrary. However we know the IRI has killed so many of them and I don't see you taking issue with it.

Why is it that every time someone stands up to one of you IRI apologists you all pull Israel out of your a**?

Oh, I know why!...It's because you HAVE NO ARGUMENT!!

Do you want to know what I would do with pride?

Put you and all of your Arabparast vatanforoosh cohorts in some deserted leper colony where you can all slowly rot.

Thanks very much for your

Thanks very much for your comments IranDokht...you understood my point unlike so many others who were content to merely attack me based on their own misguided projections. I have absolutely nothing against Nazanin for being a beauty queen, good for her - I am merely wary of those jumping on the "human rights bandwagon" as a means of self-promotion, which I find offensive and demeaning to those putting their lives on the line inside Iran in order to report on and better the situation there. 

It's incredible how the mob attacks anyone who dares to deviate from their predetermined path of righteousness. 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Kaveh: maybe you should give it up (and the stolen land)

Since you present no logic or argument - only slogans and claims and and statements of denial. Other than these you are not saying anything. You are not even brave enough to simply admit that yes you would have no problem incinerating all Iranian kids (not just the murderers/rapists/MKO) if Israel leaders told you it was necessary for the pathetic survival of the bloodsuckers of Tel Aviv. You would personally push the button on a nuclear device with pride. You didn't even make a weak attempt to at least verbally deny that. because you are here to defend Israel and their land theft at ANY cost. If it means killing all Iranians under the banner of "saving human rights" you'd be more than happy to do it and you will not even make an attempt to reply to that. Go save the blood-suckers and leave Iran to Iranians. Why are you here? If you are the intelligent one that we should hope to save us, God help us. Maybe I should pray to the Jewish God as he seems to have more power, evident by treacherous hijacking of the US government and the world finacial organizations.

More deception by SCE

"IR created the atmosphere of war EXACTLY AND IN ORDER to do what you are doing for them: HUSH don't say anything wring about IR regime because Israel might attack. !!!"

Bush and Israel are so innocent in this. Actual falsehood/misrepresentation right out of the mouth of SCE spokesperson!

"NO Mehdi, et al...we will tell it all about executions, imprisonments, tortures, unemployments, prsotitutions, corruptions, addictions and we also will say it loud to all outsiders : NO WAR ON IRAN."

In fact, you have only told us about rapists/murderers/MKO members and supporters/homosexuals/possibly one or two Bahai. These are not random or general executions of all Iranians by the regime. Another falsehood/misrepresentation directly by SCE spokesperson.

“I look out at the streets of New York and see Christians, Buddhists, and Baha’is who all openly display their faith; I see women with heads uncovered and people protesting government policies. In Iran, they would already have been imprisoned, tortured, and executed"  

A clear and outright lie. The actuality is that by far most of these women wear hejab because they believe in it. In fact they fought Shah partly because they demanded that the government must force their kids to wear hejab. SCE will not state the facts. Only misrepresentations and lies.

“Today we’ve organized the Ahmadinejad wall of shame rally, and we’re trying to bring attention to the world community that Ahmadinejad does not represent the people of Iran, and we have true voices of Iranians speaking today about the human rights abuses that are taking place in the country."

Another lie. Ahmadinejad does in fact represent the Iranian people. He does not represent all iranian people but his acceptance level is far higher than US president Bush the moron. Who exactly nominated Nazanin to as the representative of Iranians? Why is she claiming the she is such? More lies.

"hoping to give a 'voice to the voiceless' and address the concerns of the vast majority of Iranian people who believe in a united, secular, democratic Iran based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and no military intervention on Iran,"  

Another lie/misrepresentation/half truth. Vast majority of Iranians do NOT believe in a secular, democratic Iran. hard as it is to believe, and sad as it is, they do believe in a religious regime that will force their kids into Islamic teachings.

“We’re here to show Ahmadinejad does not represent all Iranians,”

Misrepresentation/half truth, nonsense. Show me one president in the world that represent all of his people. Again, Ahmadinejad's popularity is far better than Bush, just as one example.

"The government of Iran cannot on the one hand expect the international community to trust its leaders with nuclear energy while it openly disregards the most basic internationally recognized child rights conventions such as the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Charter of the Rights of the Child (CRC) to which it is state party."

Am I mistaken or is this straigh out of Israel's official statement? Please, I'd like to know if I am paranoid or this is in fact the official position Israel is taking (as well as the MKO and neo-cons et all). I truly want to know.

“Change in Iran will not come through war and bombs; that’s exactly what Ahmadinejad wants."   

Then why is every action of SCE aligned with warmongers?

To: . (not verified)

There are many countries who have violated international law.

But I am not referring to them. This thread, and this issue is specifically about the IRI's violation of international law by executing juvenile offenders.

Russia & Georgia: belongs on a different thread. Other countries who violate international law? Warmongers, Attacks on Iran?

IRI's compliance with the IAEA and the NPT?

All belong on another thread.

I'm not suggesting they're not signifciant topics of discussion. They most certainly are. In fact, they are all very important issues that we should all be very concerned with and take very seriously.

But this is a perfect example of trying to make a point or win an argument by bringing up other unrelated issues as a defense of a position.

Nazanin is publicizing the issue of the IRI executing juvenile offenders and this issue only.

Yes, other countries violate international law, and probably on a daily basis, too. And while you will never find me condoning it, apologizing for it or excusing it, I am an Iranian. These crimes are happening in Iran. Whether I am there or not, it is still my homeland, and they are still my hamvatan.

Before I can complain about how other people live and the how messy their house is, I have to wash my own dirty laundry and clean up my own mess in my own home first.

agha mehdi..

What are your specific questions about SCE?
Bring it up and I am sure some one from SCE will answer you questions.
As far I know, they have said it over and over again, they are independance, their entire work done by volunteers, they are asking for donation etc etc.
All you need to go SCE site and check it out, including the volunteers etc.
But if you get your answers, you must come forward and say SORRY. Are you a man to do that?

Quote no. 2: "It's not right

Quote no. 2:

"It's not right to assume things and base your attacks and all these nonsense postings on your wrong assumptions, trying to smear dirt on an activist's good name with your false accusations". -Irandokht

Iranian.com, why do you allow this person to make false accusations against me, and to twist what I wrote. You posted her allegations and accusations.

Why don't you post my reply to her immature accusations?

Be fair.

Dear Irandokht, I responded

Dear Irandokht,

I responded to your mud-slinging and presumptious accusations against me (I copied it below), but it's not being posted, maybe it will.

"If you only want to oppose her and defend the actions of IRI, then you don't have to watch the clip and get all wound up again. We've heard eough baseless attacks and insults". - Irandokht

Mehdi

Give it up. You can't win an intellectual battle with me. You are completely unarmed.

YOU brought up other entities. I didn't.

Your assumptions and your bets are backfiring on you. You assume that I have an allegiance to Israel. Your assumption is so far off base it's beyond measure.

Don't compare Iran to Africa. Don't compare Iran to anyplace else. Iran is Iran and the country stands on its own.

The subject is IRAN. Juvenile executions in IRAN. Not Africa, not Israel, not South Dakota, not anyplace else.

I express my my support for the position that IRI routinely violates international law by executing juvenile offenders and you turn that into me being pro-Israel? What are you... SICK?

You are sitting here in the US defending these goons in Tehran. Those goons are the ones killing Iranian children....and you want to blame it on Israel.

That is so pathetic.

Just go....keep on being a victim. You are disgusting.

Respecting Human Rights - Bush style

Or is it Olmet style? Which one is SCE working for now? I am still waiting for some answer. Is that really too much to ask? Why is SCE avoiding legitimate questions? Who is supporting them? Iranians or Israelis? Why are they so secretive? Where do we find answer to our questions?

MEHDI : Here is your answer VERY CLEAR

IR created the atmosphere of war EXACTLY AND IN ORDER to do what you are doing for them: HUSH don't say anything wring about IR regime because Israel might attack. !!!

NO Mehdi, et al...we will tell it all about executions, imprisonments, tortures, unemployments, prsotitutions, corruptions, addictions and we also will say it loud to all outsiders : NO WAR ON IRAN.  

 To get your answer more, pay attention to Nazanin's remarks on Monday specially towards the end of video 

//iranian.com/main/blog/sce-campaign/nazanin-afshin-jams-speech-ny-monday

and here are hear remarks at the SCE Wall of Shame Rally on Tuesday:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_RTeGWD6o

and here are some Quotes from Nazanin:

“I look out at the streets of New York and see Christians, Buddhists, and Baha’is who all openly display their faith; I see women with heads uncovered and people protesting government policies. In Iran, they would already have been imprisoned, tortured, and executed"  

“Today we’ve organized the Ahmadinejad wall of shame rally, and we’re trying to bring attention to the world community that Ahmadinejad does not represent the people of Iran, and we have true voices of Iranians speaking today about the human rights abuses that are taking place in the country."

hoping to give a 'voice to the voiceless' and address the concerns of the vast majority of Iranian people who believe in a united, secular, democratic Iran based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and no military intervention on Iran,"  

“We’re here to show Ahmadinejad does not represent all Iranians,” 

"The government of Iran cannot on the one hand expect the international community to trust its leaders with nuclear energy while it openly disregards the most basic internationally recognized child rights conventions such as the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Charter of the Rights of the Child (CRC) to which it is state party."

your answer again:

"“Change in Iran will not come through war and bombs; that’s exactly what Ahmadinejad wants."  

زنبور و ملکه

زنبوران بشدت در جستجوی ملکه گم شده خود هستند و بدون ملکه هیچ کاری از دستشان بر نمیاید! این هم خودش از آنگونه وعدهاست که "کور به ****" میداد، که بله اگر ملکه پای فرا نهد ما نیز متحد خواهیم شد!

فکر نان بکنید که خربزه آب است

در این ماه رمضان الحرام بخورید و بنوشید و شعار بدهید تا انشالله سال دیگر که احمدی نژاد دوباره بیاید و شمارا بیاد ملکه تان بیاندازد

Ari: are suggesting she stays silent?

If yes, then we can guess where you are coming from.
If no, what is your suggestion?
If you have no suggestion then still we can imagine where your voice is coming from.
Sitting idle, and do nothing doesn't make the problem goes away. does it?

The problem is , whoever says anything, like:
No war, he/she accused of something..
promote war: then accused for something else
What is it that you want?
If you have no solution like many others, sitting in your fat asses and just saying none sense, with no contribution, no suggestion , no nothing and at the same time tagging and slamming others who sincerely doing something is preposterous.
Do you know any one, I repeat anyone doing as much as she does while staying independence?
Listen to her speech in front of the UN and judge it for yourself. If you have nothing to admire her for, there is something wrong with you and you should seek professional help.
Minimum you can do is to go to her child execution side www.stopchildexecutions.com sign the petition and donate a few dollar , may God forgive your sins.

"If you only want to oppose

"If you only want to oppose her and defend the actions of IRI, then you don't have to watch the clip and get all wound up again. We've heard eough baseless attacks and insults". - Irandokht

This was what I referred and replied to in my previous post.

Like Nazanin, Irandokht I don't know you either and will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are very concerned about human rights as a whole and also care for Iran, and nothing else. Once you go beyond decency and try to character assasinate and label people, it only hurts this respect.

STOP MISINFORMATION

REALIST: You in such detail searched for past cases of child execution in US but INTENTIONALLY dropped the fact that US Supreme court outlawed child execution in 2005 and there has not been any such cases thereafter.

I am so happy that efforts of Nazanin is working and the IR supporters are so desperately trying any misinformation and distractions that they can get their hands on in order to continue to divide or fear Iranians..

Iranians of all opinions are gradully uniting under the shared vision of respecting human rights and that is shaking the hearts of desperate IR and its apologists

SCE is not answering questions

They only make claims. They want us to feel sorry for a "brave" queen. But they never answer valid and legitimate questions. What is their answer to warmongers? Why are their tactics precisely aligned with Israel and MKO and neo-cons? How will they protect Iran against falsehood defamatory claims that are already rampant on all Zionist news agencies. Once the rapist/child molester/homosexual/Baha'i is safe, how do we deal with the looming war as a result? There is no answer provided by SCE. SCE is a scam.

Mehdi,

Stop this slandering nonsense. See my last two comments. I'm far from a Nazanin groupie, but where the heck do you get the gall to just throw mud at Afshin-Jam and SCE? Where's your documentation? Where in SCE's action is the trace of MKO, Mossad, etc.? Can we at least agree to some semblance of non-paranoid principles when discussing things? For all we know you could be an agent of Iranian intelligence, or a Mossad agent trying to poison this conversation. Mud slinging doesn't get anyone anywhere.

Dear Killjoy

I understand how frustrating it is to keep making a point, and seeing negative comments as if what you wrote was never read. Look at what Mehdi is doing right after my comment. Connecting SCE to MKO!!! asking if they get funded by GWB?!  He didn't even look at the clip, just repeated what he's been saying and added some more outrageous accusations. Now that would have been funny if it was not so pathetic. 

Sadegh's point was nothing like this! We have people who defend IRI at all costs, but we have the ones like Sadegh who are being wrongfully labeled.  I think Sadegh voicing his doubts was very reasonable. People have certain expectations from Beauty queens (well maybe lower expectations would be a better way of saying it). It takes time and research for those doubts to go away.

Some of the people who have made up their mind would never even try to learn what SCE is doing for Iranians. Sadegh wants to know, he even praised her for the job she's doing. I don't think it's fair to "beat all opposing comments with the same wood" [you know what I mean ;-) ]

Thank you for responding to my request in a positive way. You are both very respectful gentlemen. 

IRANdokht

Sadegh jan

I admire your attitude for not wanting to gush over someone just to fit in and not to accept claims without questioning them. That is a wonderful quality. It took me a while to realize how important Nazanin's work is too. I had heard all the negative comments about her and had my own doubts. I was convinced that she's genuine after following the news, reading about all the lawyers, journalists and activists inside Iran who are working with her. Seeing what the pressure can do for the lives of some of the most unfortunate Iranians. She's been very active in contacting the heads of states and UN, criticizing UN, working closely with Amnesty International, etc...

I am not arguing with you about the activists inside Iran who may "not be beauty queens". They have a tough road and they are risking their lives every day. Nazanin is supporting them too. She has the privilege of living in a free country (some anonymous commenter accused her of having a palace in LA, but she's not living in the US) and having made a name for herself, she can and does help bring the voice of those activists to the world's attention.

In the fight for justice and human rights, she's not unique but she's in a unique position to help a lot of humanitarian causes and she's been very good about speaking up. We need her and people like her who are connected and recognized to help all the good people.

One sure way of silencing the voice of the iranians inside Iran is to continue attacking the credibility of people like Nazanin who can be a great help if we support them. 

Thank you for being honest about your doubts and concerns. I hope my explanation helped some.

Best regards my dear

IRANdokht

SCE is a scam

Let's make sure everyone realizes that this corrupt group is probably another Zionist propped up falsehood set up to fool Iranians and the world alike. I doubt that anybody in their right mind can see SCE as anything but a fraud. Who is funding them? Mosad? The MKO? Are they receiving Bush's "democracy fund?" What is their true intentions?

dear . (not verified) and all who jump to conclusion

Please check out the latest SCE Campaign blog and see for yourself how wrong you are about Nazanin's political views. 

It's not right to assume things and base your attacks and all these nonsense postings on your wrong assumptions, trying to smear dirt on an activist's good name with your false accusations. 

If you only want to oppose her and defend the actions of IRI, then you don't have to watch the clip and get all wound up again. We've heard eough baseless attacks and insults.

Thank you

IRANdokht

Nazanin jan: You should be

Nazanin jan: You should be proud that the regime's apologists think of you as a "war maker" or a "war breaker". Did you know you were this powerful in determining the American foreign policy??

It sounds like all the IRI's apologist have been handed the same talking points.

There is simply nothing Pocketbook supporter whose livelihood depends on the survival of the IRI will not smear, distort or tarnish for their gain.

IRI's campaign is being run by a bunch of Machivellian cads who don't care about Iran or Iranian; only the survival of the IRI.

Why are the anti-war people silent on the hostile remarks made by that idiot Ahmadinejad yesterday at the UN??

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced the collapse of the United States and "The Zionist Regime" during his speech to the UN General Assembly yesterday.
He announced the return of the Great Prophet, the Hidden Imam, during his speech on Tuesday.
Islamic Republic News Agency reported:

"Today, the Zionist regime is on a definite slope to collapse, and there is no way for it to get out of the cesspool created by itself and its supporters. The Islamic Republic of Iran, while fully respecting the resistance of the oppressed people of Palestine and expressing its all-out support for it, submits its humane solution based on a free referendum in Palestine for determining and establishing the type of state in the entire Palestinian lands to the distinguished Secretary General of the UN.

"American empire in the world is reaching the end of its road, and its next rulers must limit their interference to their own borders...

"A global community filled with justice, friendship, brotherhood and welfare is at hand, as I have elaborated. A community which will tread the path of beauty and love under the rule of the righteous and perfect human being, the One promised by all divine prophets and the One who is the true lover of humanity. A community that will be devoid of any fear, despair and privation.

"Such a community will soon be ours. The community promised by the great divine Prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus Christ and Mohammad (PBUH) is about to materialize.

"Let us, hand in hand, expand the thought of resistance against evil and the minority of those who are ill-wishers. Let's support goodness and the majority of people who are good and the embodiment of absolute good that is the Imam of Time, The Promised One who will come accompanied by Jesus Christ, and accordingly design and implement the just and humanistic mechanisms for regulating the constructive relationships between nations and governments.

"Oh great Almighty, deliver the savior of nations and put an end to the sufferings of mankind and bring forth justice, beauty, and love.

//www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/08092490...

Where are the moderators?

"Hezbollahi's are just Lost angry men & women ...
What a Pathetic Bunch you make behind your anonymous posts but your negativeness won't discourage Nazanin nor all who support her Just cause".

D.K.,

Stop slandering and accusing with your deliberate misrepresentations. You are accusing anyone who doesn't want Iran to be attacked, anyone who expresse their concern for the humanatarian-caring propaganda against Iranians as a whole, for when Iran is attacked all Iranians will suffer, and try to discredit whoever who posts anonymously and sees right through these games, to be Hezbollahis. You either don't see well, or are just trying to distort the truth intentionally.

As for Nazanin's just cause, I'll wait for her outcry and of course CNN's coverage against juvenile executions everyhwere, including in America. Only then would I have given it the grade of a
non-neocon-instructed "just cause".

I like many, stand for progress and just cause, not the neocon-based and version and with it's motives which is not about just cause, but that universal version, the one which doesn't try to make it deem OK to bomb Iran, any which way they can. This, is their "just cause".

‫‫آقا ‫داریوش

ما همه تو این دنیا آنونیم میریم و میایم. حالا شما فکر میکنی اسم و فامیل داشتن زیر یک عکس از آنونیمی درت میاره؟ نه جون من فکرت اینه؟ یک چیز دیگه، وقتی شما میری دست بوسی ملکت اینطوری حرف میزنی، اگر اره که ایول داری...

Dear Nazanin...

You dare to be different, be a pioneer...You are a kind of women who in the face of adversity continue to embrace life and walk fearlessly toward the challenge.

Nazanin Jan your kindness and hard works will return to you in the same beautiful way it's offered.

Mona 

Sadegh,

Reading your comment bellow I see you've got a more serious problem that you need to solve. It's called, infantilism!

"...what about the thousands upon thousands inside Iran struggling day in, day out who don't get publicity because they are foreign beauty queens with music videos? I'm not saying this should detract from her activities, but she is not unique and therefore I not going to join the chorus of "ooohs and ahhhhs"...sorry I'm just not, and that is no reason for anyone to attack me or write a diatribe slandering me...there are plenty fighting for survival under far harsher conditions inside Iran and I have seen them and spoken to them first-hand..."

To dear IRANdokht and Nadias,

Thanks for the precious advice. I guess I'll rest my case here and get on with more important things.

With love and respect,

Killjoy

The Greater Hezbollah Is Angry..

becuase she is not wearing a "maghnaeh" and chador, and that's why they're attacking her. It doesn't conform with their image of an "Iranian woman".

Pathetic!

Hezbollahi's are just Lost angry men & women ...

and should I add crying sadistic ignorant animals ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7CBKT0PWFA

May he who has never sinned cast the first stone gentlemen and or Mi Ladies ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaiEiOVwSDg

What a Pathetic Bunch you make behind your anonymous posts but your negativeness won't discourage Nazanin nor all who support her Just cause.