What should we talk about?

Tying improved relations to Iranian respect for human rights


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What should we talk about?
by Trita Parsi
02-Mar-2008
 

The human rights situation in Iran is getting drastically worse. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch report that executions in Iran - including instances of stoning - have sharply increased under in the last few years. In addition, using the Bush administration's Iran Democracy Fund as a pretext, Iranian authorities have clamped down on Iran's civil society with thousands of arrests.

As Washington’s foreign policy elite is concluding that negotiations with Tehran lie in America’s strategic interest, it is also important to recognize that it lies in the US’s long-term interest to make any improvements in relations with Iran contingent upon Tehran’s adherence to the UN human rights deceleration.

This approach will enable Washington to develop a stake in Iran's future and ultimate stability, but not a stake in the survival of the Iranian theocracy.

This argument was developed in greater detail in my op:ed in the

Philadelphia Inquirer earlier this week:

Bush administration has fueled the human-rights abuses in Iran

The Bush administration's apparent disregard for the expressed wishes of Iranian human-rights defenders has made a bad situation worse. When it comes to human rights in the Middle East, the Bush administration has claimed to walk the walk. But that walk clearly has a limp.

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch report that executions in Iran - including instances of stoning - have sharply increased under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. In addition, using the Bush administration's Iran Democracy Fund as a pretext, Iranian authorities have clamped down on Iran's civil society with thousands of arrests.

The $75 million Iran Democracy Fund, first appropriated in 2006, was reappropriated in December despite loud protests by human rights and democracy champions. Human rights workers argue that this "regime change slush fund" has facilitated the Ahmadinejad government's latest wave of abuses.

Washington has dismissed these protests, putting Iranian human-rights defenders in a double bind. While they recognize that the absence of diplomacy between Washington and Tehran - and the ensuing tensions - enable the Iranian government to intensify human-rights abuses, activists also fear that U.S.-Iran talks might result in a relationship that mirrors America's relationship with Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Iran under the shah. That is, one in which geopolitical objectives trump concerns about human rights and democracy.

There is a solution to this dilemma.

Washington must restore its own standing on human rights, and put the deteriorating human rights situation in Iran on the table in its discussions with Tehran.

A foreign policy contingent on human rights will create a balance between America's relationship with the people of Iran and its relationship with Iran's unpopular government.

The value of this relationship will yield great strategic objectives for the United States. Namely, any resulting improvements in the U.S. relationship with Iran will be sustainable, rather than tied to the survival of the current regime.

By tying improved relations to Iranian respect for human rights, Washington will develop a stake in Iran's future and ultimate stability, but not a stake in the survival of the Iranian theocracy.

Past foreign policy efforts in the Middle East - namely with America's Arab allies - have failed in this regard. While Arab governments support the American order, Arab streets blame the United States for prolonging the reigns of the dictators who rule them. Unsurprisingly, this creates a dangerous breeding ground for anti-American sentiments and terrorism.

Making Iran's human rights record a condition of gradual improvement of U.S.-Iran relations would help reduce tensions between the two countries without alienating the Iranian people and undermining America's soft power in Iran.

The next president of the United States must recognize the necessity of reducing tensions with Tehran through diplomacy. Fortunately, this strategic goal can be achieved without getting stuck with the theocracy.

Trita Parsi is president of the National Iranian American Council in Washington, D.C. and author of Treacherous Alliance - The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran and the United States.


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by AnonymousChicken (not verified) on

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Mooftkhoor Ey-ranians think with shouting and stopping civil gathering accomplish their goals.

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by always (not verified) on

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Mr. Parsi can denonuce the IRI and simultaneously continue his lobby efforst against the war on Iran. What is wrong with that?


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Well said Ladan

by Hooman H (not verified) on

-Hooman


ladan K

Bravo Mammad

by ladan K on

Well said.  All you self hating Iranians out there don't do jack to improve your lot in life. Don't do jack to help fix our collective problems or add to our culture. Heck, most of you won't even do busines with other Iranians because you are all self hating immigrants with boat loads of "oghdeh" and think everyone is out to get you, unless you get them first.

When some assertive, intelligent Iranian pulls it together to demonstarte some Balls to stand up for what he bleieves, all you can do is find fault!  YOu do this with anyone you secretly think is better than you (and that's a lot of people).

As long as we don't speak up AGAINST people like that on sites like this, and at parties or anywhere we go, we are actively contributing to the problem. 

It's more than the fact that we are not part if the solution, it's that in our failure to see how much we are hurting our already fragmented community, we are doing the work of the Jewish Lobby, the IRI, the McCain followers and all the war mongers who stand to gain from war and hate.

I don't know Trita Parsi, but NOTHING I have seen, read or researched (motivated by the contrived comments on here) points to anything close to NIAC be an agent of the IRI.  That seems crazy to me.  Would the IRI spend time and money trying to get people to register to VOTE? That's what NIAC advocates for starters. They are the best advocate of our rights we have, and when you don't speak up and add your comments against these attacks, you are dragging us all down.

 All I heared on here for weeks is how Parsi is an IRI aget. But when he steps up and puts down the IRI's human rights infringements, that's still not good enough for you.   You people really should be shamed of your, porroo, tarsoo, shikamoo, oghdei selves, and try and be proactive members of society through positive action instead of cowardly snipes on this site hiding behind your annonymity.

Put that in your Vafoor and smoke it!

 

 


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Anti Censorship

by Rostam Farokhzad (not verified) on

Good job JJ,

Keep on deleting unfavorable comments! Well done.


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Shame on you

by Mammad (not verified) on

I am almost certain that those who attack Dr. Trita Parsi and people like him,

1. Have never ever done anything themselves for improvement of the situation in Iran, but only have a loud mouth for attacking anybody who does, and

2. they are hoping that the US will attack Iran. They express their wishes in two different ways:

(a) People in one group state "bravely" and explicitly that they wish the attacks will happen. I say "bravely" because, in reality, wishing that Iran and Iranians be destroyed so that these people can feel better does not really need bravery, but cowardiness.

(b) People in the second group are those whom I call "sharmandeh" Iranians. They want the attacks, but do not dare say it explicitly. So, what do they do? The next "best" thing: Attack viciously and cowardly, hiding behind anonymous names (full disclosure: my real name is Mohammad, or Mammad, as everyone calls me), those who oppose the attacks.

Opposing attacks on Iran is patriotic because,

1. Attacks on Iran will not overthrow the mullahs, but consolidate their grip on Iran for the next several decades;

2. Attacks on Iran will disintegrate Iran;

3. Attacks on Iran will kill the strong social/political movements in Iran. Those who only "arbadeh mikeshand" are blind; otherwise, they should see that we have strong, (i) university students movement; (ii) labor movement; (iii) feminist movement; (iv) human rights movement, and (v) (political) democratic movement. Yes, they will not be able to change the regime now or over the next few years. But, that takes nothing away from their legitimacy and power. Democracy is not a project that starts on a certain date and ends on a certain date. It is a process that may take years to produce results. We have been struggling since the Constitutional Revolution of 1906-1908 to have a democratic government in Iran.

4. The "arbadeh keshaan" also do not understand one of the simplest facts about the regime: The hardline, reactionary right can survive for an extended time only if there is a national crisis, an external threat against Iran. So, anything that takes away from them an excuse for having or creating such a crisis is a huge positive for Iran. If there is no national crisis, people will get rid of them over a short period of time,

5. Hardliners have used the confrontation with the US, and the crisis that they have created with Israel, to the hilt in order to justify their repression. One must be totally blind and deaf not to see this. So, anything that lessens the friction between Iran and the US is a plus for the movements.

6. The arbadeh keshaan, who know nothing, think that if the US and Iran negotiate, that gives the regime legitimacy. They do not understand another simple fact: the legitimacy of a regime is bestowed upon it by the people of that nation, not by foreign powers. But, since the coalition of the terrorist mojahedin/monarchists/Iranian neocons have no legitimacy themselves, and instead are willing to do anything to receive support from the US, also view negotiations in the same light.

7. I am not opposed to VOA, Radio Farda, etc. (I have participated and spoken in all of them), so long as they provide accurate, fair, and balanced information; but they do not. VOA, in particular, brings on some of the worst people to spread lies. In fact, the only reason people like me agree to participate is exactly preventing such situations. But, as soon as people like me participate once or twice and reveal all the lies that the other person, who supposedly "debates" us, is propagating, we are put on a black list.

8. No, the US is not responsible for violation of human, civil, and political rights of Iranians, but it has greatly contributed to it by making demands on Iran that, even the most US-friendly people will balk at. The only thing the US is interested in is capitulation: they want the old Iran under the Shah, when they could do whatever they want.

9. The US does not give a hoot to democracy. In fact, with the exception of Iran, if we have truly democratic elections throughgout the Islamic world, Islamic groups will win the elections in most of them, not because the people support them, but because of what the Bushies have done, which has been nothing but waging war, bringing destruction, genocide, and looting the national wealth of any country on which they can get their hands on. Just take a look at Iraq.

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Come to think of it: An achievement of the Revolution of 1979 was to throw you arbadeh keshaan, do-thingers, accusers, out of Iran.


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NIAC's Job is to present

by always (not verified) on

NIAC's Job is to present and sustain a permanent ‘window of hope’ for the West through various campaigns of disinformation. These lobbyists and advocates deceive and confuse foreignforeign policy makers int the U.S. to the conclusion that cutting a deal (Grand Bargain or unfettered security guarantee to the regime to oppress, Isalmacize,and plunder, Iranians with no challegne from the world community) with the likes of Rafsanji or Khatami may present an alternative route to curtailing IRI’s efforts to build the bomb.

These so-called academics and think tankers are folly and dishonest interlocutors delivering the worst disservice to the cause of democracy in Iran and a threat to the U.S.'s long-term national and strategic security.

Those who support NIAC are either deeply vested in perserving the criminal leadership and sewer republic, 2. have blood on their hands; 3. are Pocketbook supporters, 4. opportunists and profiteers (that includes the oil mafias both iranians and Americans) 5. They are shia jihadist and will kill infidels in the name of Allah to build their World Islamic Caliphate 6.


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we appreciate NIAC's work, but please tone down Zionist support

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Thanks.


Zion

Bush administration has fueled the human-rights abuses in Iran?

by Zion on

This argument is so unbelievably absurd, It is like saying Allied pressure on Hitler has fueled the human-rights abuses in Germany.
Sir, you sound like an educated person. You should be ashamed of yourself for whitewashing the crimes of the Islamists in Iran by shifting the blame to another people, and for trying to take any advantage you can get your hands on to promote a dialogue that will only stabilize their power and prove to them how advantageous their attitudes are, both internally in crushing Iranians and externally by defying the world and endangering everyone.


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All the Mullah's Men!

by Yari (not verified) on

By his own account this por-roo has stated he has no experience in Human Rights Issues! Then how come he is conducting a seminar with that topic? Unless, like his Boss, Ahmadi Jan, he was in Evin Prison in charge and wishes to elaborate on various methods of torture being used there!


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Global Incident Map Displaying Terrorist Acts,

by Babk56 (not verified) on

Global Incident Map Displaying Terrorist Acts, Suspicious Activity, and General Terrorism News

//www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php

Titra, can you help the U.S. goverment to locate the Islamist terrorists?


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You have problem with NIAC if....

by Shame on Israel (not verified) on

a- you are following shah's corpse to hell
b- You head is up Israeli lobby's A$$
c- You are in cahoot with Neo cons
d- You are a memebr of Rajavi's deadly cult

If you don't belong to the shameless list above
I'd like to hear your case against them.

Otherwise just SHUT UP. This is the only viable organization Iranian Americans have in US.

Sincerely,
Sick and tired of traitors!


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TITRA ARAB, WHY DID YOU DO IT? WHY

by Babak56 (not verified) on

//youtube.com/watch?v=G-dUJgJM06U

Is money worth it to you that much? Does it really mean so much to you to support a murderous regime? You know that every Iranian knows about your true identity. You know that this regime will change and you will have no place on earth to hide. You know that Iranian people will not forget. You know you and Amir Ahmadi will be tried for crimes against humanity in Iran..why then you still lobby for a terrorist regime? Your buddy Bob is in prison, guess where you will be when Iran is free? Think about it.


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World War III

by Abol Hassan Danesh (not verified) on

I don't care what the subject or topic is ... just keep talking as long it does not mess with me head for if it does and make mind explude there will be no alternative but the start of world war III until the world population reduces to something on the border line of half billion half naked and half burnt earth inhabitant without shelter laying out in cold...

So don't mess With Mr. Abol Hassan Danesh or else...


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Shame On You, Trita Parsi!

by Pissed Off (not verified) on

After years of lobbying for and defending murderous IRI regime, Trita Parsi is talking about human rights!!!

How shameless can he get?


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Dr. Parsi,

by M.B. (not verified) on

From where I stand your organization has done its
part to defend and promote the interests of Iran and Iranian Americans. Your organization is the only voice in an otherwsie absolute deafening silence when it comes to civil rights of Iranian Americans. I personally appreciate NIAC's stance with regard to defending my civil rights against a racist coorporate giant in US.


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Questions for Trita Parsi

by Anonymousnbv (not verified) on

Questions for Trita Parsi By [Michael Rubin]

The National Iranian American Council (NIAC) has been at the forefront of lobbying against continued Congressional funding of Voice of America-Persian service; Radio Farda; and grants for Iranian civil society. I had written about their campaign, here. An excerpt:

As the group lobbies to cut off funding of programs meant to foster Iranian civil society, it has accepted a six-figure grant from the National Endowment for Democracy to train Iranian nongovernmental organizations, perhaps those less threatening to the Islamic Republic. The NIAC's leader, who often trades on his access to Iranian authorities, should explain why it is okay for him, but not his competitors, to accept such money.

Now it turns out that NIAC accepted not one grant from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), but three: here, here, and in this current year, report not yet online. NIAC leader Trita Parsi remains silent, so a few open questions:

1) If you believe all Iranian civil society activists don’t want these programs and, indeed, they backfire, why did you reapply for grants in 2006 and 2007?

2) In your grant applications, did you tell the National Endowment for Democracy that your programs were successful when you now say the programs are counterproductive? Did it take you three years to come to this conclusion, or did you believe differently in 2005 and 2006?

3) For the sake of transparency, will you release publicly the reports you issued to the National Endowment for Democracy so we can compare your statements to them with those in your letter to Congress? Do you not believe that a discrepancy would equate with fraud? Will you return the money you took from NED if a discrepancy exists?

4) You demand that the State Department should release to you and the public the names of Iranian civil society activists who have accepted grants, participated in conferences funded with the Congressional Iran civil society grant, or participated in citizen exchange programs supported with the Congressional Iran civil society funding. Will you publicly release the names of the Iranian groups with whom you have worked during your three years of receiving NED funding? Are these groups representative of democracy activists and independent civil society or do they represent the reformist faction of the Iranian government? I hope that you should not oppose transparency.

5) You cite Akbar Ganji in support of your efforts to cut off funding to Radio Farda. Are you aware of reports that Mr. Ganji is seeking to start his own radio program? Do you not believe that Iranians should have access to as many voices as possible? You also differentiate between Iranian civil society activists that fled Iran in recent years, Akbar Atri, for example, and those who remain in Iran, like Mr. Ganji. In what country does Mr. Ganji now live? Has he returned to Iran after coming to the States?

6) While you seek a cut-off of Congressional funding for democracy in Iran, do you feel the same way about the funding George Soros gives to civil society activists? After all, the Iranian government cited Mr. Soros' grants in their recent crackdown. Do you believe U.S. policy should adhere to whatever the Iranian government says?

Trita, I hope you will have the integrity to release publicly your reports and answer these questions.

//corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzY4ODZkN...


ahvazi

Jenab-e-doktor Parsi

by ahvazi on

Great Article. Now can you please write an article and publish it in an Iranian paper (kayhan, Hamshahri, Quds, etc) about how Iran must improve its human rights and stop killing and oppressing our fellow Iranians using the US government 75 million dollars program as an excuse!


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Trita Parsi ! shame on you

by Melli (not verified) on

Trita Parsi should first explain why NIAC has accepted over $200,000 from National Endowment for Democracy .
And the support he gets from Tehran .


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Titra Parsi is a rare gem

by Maladie d'amour (not verified) on

I don't understand what inspires the people who just vent venom and wrath.

Could we hear one, just one productive and analytical comment from these faux political analysts?

Just like the Arts when someone does something genuine, people bash it because it is not the customary crap they are used to getting....

Please shut you negative faces and just listen for a change.

I haven't heard someone as intelligent and sophisticated as Titra Parsi since the Iranian revolution. You don't have to be a mulla lover to hear the truth. Grow up people.


David ET

Mr. Parsi

by David ET on

Islamic regime in Iran is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for human rights violations and atrocities. <--- PERIOD 

They have violated human rights for 29 years, during Carter (2), Reagan ( 8 ), Bush father (4), Clinton ( 8)and Bush son ( 7) . 

They have always used external affairs to cover up their atrocities..... from taking hostages to extending the war with Iraq to supporting terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah,  to nuclear enrichment, etc etc and they will ALWAYS FIND OR CREATE situations outside Iran to distract from internal problems.

Indeed US and other countries should avoid falling in to these traps but as long as the regime is in power , they will find a way to do so.

Therefore , FIRST and FOREMOST, Focus must remain on the human rights violations by the regime without any reservations, or justifications. I strongly recommend that NIAC revise its policies to clearly, openly , bluntly, continuously  and without any reservations condemn human right violations in Iran and make respecting human rights a foundation of its organization and all its decision makings including their lobbying, recommendations etc. Until NIAC does not make this move, NIAC policies will remain to be subject to doubts and questions by most Iranians.

At the same time I must clarify that the hostile and uncivil confrontations with NIAC by few,  such as what was created by LA TV at your recent meetings are absolutely not justified. Difference of views and opinions must be addressed in a civil and respectful manner.


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Conspiracy theory anyone?

by ManofIdeas (not verified) on

This is precisely what IRI wants so it can have even more of an excuse to kill and jail human rights activists. Any so-called analysis of the human rights situation in Iran that starts out blaming the US instead of placing the blame squarely on IRI leaders is either foolish, or worse propagandist. People who kill and jail and torture their fellow Iranians are the ones responsible for the atrocities. No matter what the US does the Islamic dictatorship will come up with some type conspiracy theory to associate anti-regime activists to the US or Israel and proceed to suppress them. And then there are people like Trita Parsi who knowingly or not aid and facilitate that repression but presenting it with a (very thin & transparently false) veneer of concern for human rights that at its core is based solely on a hatred of America.


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Islam Republic Traitors

by downwithNIAC (not verified) on

People of Iran will one day judge those who sold themselves for money to the IRI Watch this:

//youtube.com/watch?v=G-dUJgJM06U


Fred

All but the Islamist Republic to blame

by Fred on

It is good to know the twenty nine years string of total disregard for human rights by the Islamist Republic has been due to Washington’s policies. Next NIAC/CASMII the Islamist lobby will blame the Bam earthquake on the Martians.