A Revolution Betrayed

Torture and murder in IRI prisons in the 1980's

Sadegh Khalkhali's treatment of claimed drug addicts and dealers in IRI prisons in early 1980's. There are other examples of mistreatment of prisoners. Unfortunately, there is no information about the origin and credits on the clip, but it might be a part of this 1984 documentary.

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Kaveh Nouraee

Dreamer

by Kaveh Nouraee on

What America and Americans want for Iran is irrelevant, just as what Iran and Iranians want for the US is irrelevant.

As for the "decision" you believe Iranians have made, you are entitled to think that is the legitimate and true decision, and I am equally entitled to question your sanity and intelligence for doing so.

Also, do not think for a second that you will be forcing me anywhere.


American Dream

Freedom5

by American Dream on

America and Americans desire for Iran to be a democratic republic.  In the end it is the Iranian population that lives in Iran that decides.  They have decided to have President Ahmadinejad and Spiritual Leader Ayat'Allah Seyed Ali Khamenei.

As for Kaveh:

You don't make sense.  It is time for you to mature or go somewhere else.


Freedom5

WHAT A WASTE.....

by Freedom5 on

Listen American blub.....now i know I wasted my time on you. You said "Yes, America is righteous.  For every 2 steps forward at most America makes one step back with regards to foreign policy issues.  We always move forward.  We aren't perfect, but we are headed in the right direction." So you are an American then you should have not wasted my time and the others. I have nothing to say to you. Just rememeber what goes up must come down. Shad Zee.


Kaveh Nouraee

And now to you

by Kaveh Nouraee on

I have been catching you in your lies from the beginning, and the best response is a line of dialogue from Popeye The Sailor?

I never said that 8 people agree with you. You clearly lack the basic skills in reading comprehension if that's what you think. You have posted under at least 8 different names. There's a difference. If it needs to be explained to you, then perhaps this website is too mature for you to participate.

For the record, "300" is just a film, not documented historical fact.


American Dream

Freedom5 and Kaveh Nouraee

by American Dream on

Freedom5:

"Its been a while since anyone call Khomayni "Imam Khomayni."   I don't need to go to details to tell you what a !@#@@ man he was."

-He was your leader.  You can describe him any which way you want.  American Presidents have a special place in Americans hearts.  American Presidents are like Shia Imams to devout Shia Muslim Iranians.  In America, we decent Americans respect our leaders and our criticisms are also done respectfully.

"The books that I refered you to read are only a few of many
books that have been published in regards to your master Jimmy Carter."

-Master?  No.  That term is only used in terms with slavery.  Slavery was abolished in America after the Civil War.  I was born many years after the civil war.  And I do not belong to the ethnicity of the people that were slaves during those days.  I will take it that in your family culture one is in a slave and master mentality with regards to his government leadership relationship.  You just re-affirm the movie "300" with regards to slavery in that part of the world.

"I do not expect an American to defend my country."

-I was attempting to enlighten you.  These conservatives are not your friends.

"I know that you did not read them but at least you look for them in the internet.  I am surprised."

-Thanks for being surprised.  I am to shock and awe.  By the way I did read one of them.  I would not read book from conservatives especially one who quotes an orientalist historian by the name of Dr. Bernard Lewis.  Lewis believes that middle eastern people don't have souls, something like animals, they eat sleep and go to the bathroom.  I would never read a book by them, they are far from objective and their only reason for being is superficial.

"On the other hand I am not the one who call myself Amercian
Dream and as I remember vividly( below response from you)  you are the
one who call The U.S righteous."

-Yes, America is righteous.  For every 2 steps forward at most America makes one step back with regards to foreign policy issues.  We always move forward.  We aren't perfect, but we are headed in the right direction.

"Shame on youAmerican Dreamer, you are a disgrace."

-How am I a disgrace.  Your writings don't follow a coherent thought pattern here.  Please explain.

-Read the following article, it's about justice delayed, would this ever happen in the over 2500 year old history of Iran.  Keep an open mind when reading the article and remember even before the Iranian Revolution book like "The Cat and the mice" were banned.  All the best.

//news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090817/pl_afp/usjust...

And now to Kaveh:

I am what I am.  If 8 other people agree with me as you say so be it.  I can't help if they love me.

 

 

 

 


Freedom5

AMERICAN DREAM = IMAM @$%# KHOMAYNI

by Freedom5 on

Its been a while since anyone call Khomayni "Imam Khomayni."   I don't need to go to details to tell you what a !@#@@ man he was.

The books that I refered you to read are only a few of many books that have been published in regards to your master Jimmy Carter. If these people according to you are body of water is not my concern. I do not expect an American to defend my country. I merely give you a few books to read. I know that you did not read them but at least you look for them in the internet.  I am surprised.

 On the other hand I am not the one who call myself Amercian Dream and as I remember vividly( below response from you)  you are the one who call The U.S righteous. Shame on youAmerican Dreamer, you are a disgrace.  


Kaveh Nouraee

Dreamer

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Kaveh Nouraee = Kaveh Nouraee.

Read it as many times as you need to in order or it to sink into your cerebral cortex.

Unlike you, I post under my real name and only my real name. Whereas you have posted under at least EIGHT that we know.


American Dream

Freedom5: Any thing and everything that is not objective

by American Dream on

And your book are:

1)The real Jimmy Carter by Steven Hayward

Steven F. Hayward is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (www.aei.org) in Washington, D.C.

The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) is an extremely influential, pro-business, conservative think tank founded in 1943 by Lewis H. Brown.

Objective???  Steven F. Hayward is not objective.  Reading his stuff on President Carter is like reading Hitler's Mein Kampf for the history of Judaism.

2) Mission to Iran by William H Sullivan

I have read this.  Ambassador Sullivan saw the Shah losing power.  Ambassador Sullivan was for opening up talks with the Revolutionary participants in order to maintain American interests in Iran.  In no way was Ambassador Sullivan a supporter of Imam Khomayni.  Ambassador Sullivan tried to help the Shah.  The Shah was sinking and his regime was on its way out.

3) A century of war by Willian Engdahl

His first book was called "A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order", and discusses the role of Zbigniew Brzezinski and George Ball and of the USA in the 1979 overthrow of the Shah of Iran,
which was meant to manipulate oil prices and to stop Soviet expansion.
Engdahl claims that Brzezinski and Ball used the Islamic Balkanization model proposed by Dr Bernard Lewis. In 2007, he completed "Seeds of Destruction: The Hidden Agenda of GMO".

Engdahl stated in 2007 that he had come to believe that petroleum is not produced from remains of prehistoric zooplankton and algae, which had settled to a sea or lake bottom in large quantities under anoxic conditions (the theory supported by physical evidence as well as the majority of petroleum geologists and engineers[3]).
Instead he now believes in the hypothesis that petroleum is produced
underground by unknown materials, conditions and forces deeper down in
the Earth's core. Engdahl calls himself an "ex peak oil believer", stating that peak oil is actually a political phenomenon.[4]

A nut job at most.  Engdahl is not objective.  Engdahl refers to Professor Bernard Lewis.  I know Bernard Lewis, his expertise is the Ottoman Empire, his book, Arabs in History, written ages ago was o.k.  I know for a fact that Bernard Lewis is a staunch Zionist.  After 9/11 Lewis became one of the people that was used as an expert by FOX News, the reactionary news channel.

4) Carter sold out IRAN by Chuck Morse

Chuck Morse is a conservative American journalist, author and radio talk show host from Boston, Massachusetts. Morse ran a write-in campaign against incumbent Barney Frank for the 2006 Massachusetts's 4th congressional district
elections, as he did not get enough certified signatures to appear on
the ballot. The total possible percentage of votes Morse could have
received as a write-in candidate in the 2006 election would be 1.2% of
the total vote. [1] As of 2/8/2007, Chuck Morse's campaign fund is currently in debt by $51,321 [2] In 2004, Morse lost 78%-22% to Frank.

Another Conservative nut.

Do you have any objective book to refer to?

Conservatives in America call that body of water, "The Arabian Gulf".

Conservatives in America believe that The Tomb Islands, Kish Island and Abu Musa belong to the United Arab Emirates.

Conservatives in America made the movie "300".

Lets look at that film again:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiUG52ZyHQ

Conservatives sold weapons to Iranian President Rafsanjani in what became known as the Iran-Contra Affair.

Are these your objective Experts??? 

Remove that forohar from your account and replace it with the label "SELL OUT".


shushtari

thanks freedom 5....

by shushtari on

for educating asghar agha- aka emreekayee nightmare.

there is also another book- shah's last ride.....

it's funny, because that idiot carter basically ignored the shah so he had to run from country to country- how this amounts to 'saving the shah...' only asghar agha knows!! LOL

and the fact that emreekaye actually refers to that filth khomeini as 'imam' says a lot....last time I checked, we only had 12 imams in eslam :)>

javid iran....and let 09 be the last year of the akhoonds!!! 


Freedom5

American Dream keeps dreaming

by Freedom5 on

Here is some book for you to study since you have so much time to insult people and don't quit your absudity.

Here the list of the book that your master carter had betrayed shah and Iran.

1)The real Jimmy Carter by Steven Hayward

2) Mission to Iran by William H Sullivan

3) A century of war by Willian Engdahl

4) Carter sold out IRAN by Chuck Morse

I know you won't read this but I thought just to shut you up.. i know you won't because you are preposterous.

 


American Dream

shushtari...where do you get this information?

by American Dream on

"there are thousands of pages that document his (President Carter's) disdain for the shah and his admiration for that filthy old idiot, khomeini....."

Where do you get this information?

Give me the author's name and the title of the book of the objective journalist that quoted President Carter of disdain of the Shah before the US hostage crisis or before the Iranian Revolution.

President Carter tried to save the Shah's monarchy by advising along with General Huyser (God rest his soul) and Ambassador William Sullivan to help strengthen the government of Iranian Prime Minister Bakhtiar.

Cite where and by which objective writer and historian that President Carter had ever said one positive thing about Ayat'Allah Ruh'Allah Moosavi Khomayni.  Imam Khomayni cost President Carter his re-election in 1980.  Ayat'Allah Khomayni was President Carter's worst nightmare.  What you write doesn't make sense.

The Shah, Prime Minister Bakhtiar, SAVAK, the Iranian Military and the Imperial Guards could not save the monarchy in Iran.

By 
February 11, 1979 Iranians had pulled down the staues of the Shah and Reza Khan and were dancing in the streets.

See the following clip:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY0ixG94cHE

You can't make this stuff up.

I knew a man from Shushtar yet, as far as I recall, he was an Iranian Arab and followed the Sabian religion.

On more about the Sabians:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabians

Tell the truth:

Are you and that Kaveh the same person?


Reza-Rio de Janeiro

Same account?

by Reza-Rio de Janeiro on

Islamic Republic Dream = American/CIA dream indeed...

Pay attention you I.R. /CIA agent on iranian.com site,

With the style of our writings, anybody with the right mind and logic can distinguish between my writings, feelings, experiences and views on life and others such as Kaveh's (master in writing) and Shushtari's (with the heart of gold) ... It doesn't take an intelligence service agent such as you to figure that out bro!!! Where and how have you been trained???

Plus, don't worry, Mr. Jahanshah Javid is apparently smarter than you and he is the first one who has all the information and e-mails of everyone that logs in here. (Remember he made it mandatory since the uprising of Peaceful Iranians for Freedom...) So you may want to search for another avenue! 

Trust me dude, I have fought against tyranny and I did try (in my capacity)and put my young life (back then...) on line to Free Iran, Iranians and bring Peace to the world in my own little way ! I am proud in front of my Old Country, God and Consience!

Ever since 1991 I became an American and because I have a deep sense of gratefulness to my adopted country, I have sworn that I will stand by Americans and America equally!

You my friend, You, The day you decide to earn your money and life situation in the right way, come back here and let's talk like fair Human Beings...

Peace and Love on Earth.

 


shushtari

emreekayee....

by shushtari on

add your last post to the rest of your nonsense....

as far as believing 'conspiracy theories' go, it seems you are the only soul that thinks carter was a freedom fighter LOL!!!

there are thousands of pages that document his disdain for the shah and his admiration for that filthy old idiot, khomeini.....

so keep making a fool of yourself, because we all need a good laugh


American Dream

Anonymous8, you are correct

by American Dream on

I must agree with you...

There are several people here on this site who post weird stuff...

They seem to be one individual with several different accounts.

Anyhow, they all have the Uncle Napoleon complex.

As you correctly said, and I must add words to that phrase:

the depth of bogus conspiracy theories (one so called) iranian (Kaveh) believes!

Kaveh=Reza=shushtari

either they are the same guy or they are roomates bored at home.

 

 


Kaveh Nouraee

Shustari

by Kaveh Nouraee on

"dancing on their heads"? Not me.

I respect my shoes.


shushtari

this dreamer dude

by shushtari on

is way off base....

anyone who thinks carter is a 'freedom fighter' needs to have his head examined!

good thing is that the akhoonds' days are numbered and we will soon be dancing on their heads back home

JAVID IRAN 


Reza-Rio de Janeiro

Kaveh Nouraee is RIGHT.

by Reza-Rio de Janeiro on

TRUTH MUST BE TOLD!!!!

Western Powers (U.S. U.K., most European and Japan) had planned to topple Shah for  a long time after he stood up to them in every way... These devils did all that for a very long term financial and economical purposes and reasons!!! Plan to suck our Natural OIL and GAS resources dry at almost no cost to them, while they sold everything to us 300 times more the value and price!!!

Nothing personal, simply business!!! But at what cost????????

Note: For over 30 years Islamic Republic occupying Iran has been the best customer of all these governments in every aspect !!! Military, weapons, everything Iranian government and people needed have been sold to them by up to 300 times more than its original price tag and value globally!!!! BINGO!!! Rest my case!

For the Love of GOD , other vulchers Governments such as Turkey by being a middle man could rebuild their whole countries with Iranian people's money and lives!!!!

At that time, All those western citizens (and even now!) could not even point to Iran on the world map, thus their citizens were not guilty and simply had no clue what their criminal governments and intelligence services had in store for poor Iran!!! Of course, the fact that most Iranians at the time were even more ignorant than their western and eastern counter parts didn't help Iran and subsequently the next innocent Iranian generations who had to pay the ulitmate price of most unfair thing that has happened to a country systematically for over 30 years in Middle East and perhaps any where in this world!!!

The executed their viscous plan by protecting, housing and giving a Psycho-path Khomeini and his followers, Millions of dollars and all Foreign media (mainly BBC and VOA) to topple the Shah's regime.

All these powers (later joined by Evil Russia and China) have been responsible for Millions of Iranian lost lives, torture of Hundreds of Thousands of innocent Iranians and stealing Trillions of dollars their money lost forever from Iran and Iranian people.......... Thank you all you EVIL mother F$%kers, WE FU$%ING DESERVED IT FOR BEING SO IGNORANT AND STUPID AS A NATION BACK IN 1978 AND 1979! YOU PLAYED US SO EASYLY...

FUNNY ENOUGH, WE THOUGHT WE WERE THE SHARPEST, MOST INTELLIGENT PEOPLE AT THE TIME!!!!


Kaveh Nouraee

Dreamer

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Show me where the officials in Oslo referred to Carter as a "freedom fighter".

The reference to Arafat is a reference to his receipt of a Nobel Peace Prize, not his nationality, you twit.


American Dream

Kaveh Nouraee, you are mistaken

by American Dream on

President Carter is a freedom fighter according to the Nobel Peace prize judges, that is not my opinion.

As far as Yasser Arafat is concerned the topic was President Carter.  Yasser Arafat was not the topic, issue, etc.

Anyhow, Israeli Prime Minister Rabin made peace with Arafat.  PM Rabin was an Israeli Military officer, he has more credibility than you.  That being said, I do not support Arafat, I am not Palestinian yet, you keep on bringing up this Palestinian issue.  If you like to continue please go to Palestinian.com

As for your rambling on about medication, it seems you are on medication at some insane asylum and they let you on the computers when you agree to take your meds.  It seems the meds are not doing a good job.  You are still dillusional.  Are you this era's Uncle Napoleon?

All the Best.


Kaveh Nouraee

Dreamer

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Firstly, the only people who agree with you are the voices in your head.

Secondly, do not make any assumptions as to whether or not "I like America". Do not make any assumptions at all.

Building houses for the poor, receiving a Nobel Prize....I'm not impressed one bit. There are many people who have built houses for the poor, clothed the poor and fed the poor, and they did not use their fame as a tool to promote their activity or draw attention to themselves and their deeds, and did not have a camera crew on hand to record the event as your hero has one on many occasions. 

And as far as your precious peace prize, being on the same list as Yasser Arafat scores absolutely zero points.

If you are of the mindset that Carter is some sort of freedom fighter, then so be it. Even people with as disturbed a mentality as yours is entitled to your thoughts.

Hopefully, with advances in medicine, your mental disease will be finally brought under control in the near future, until a cure can be found.


American Dream

Response to comments

by American Dream on

Freedom5: your comment is absurd to say the least. 

"The shah's time has gone and the history will judge him."  History has already judged him, more than 30 million Iranians kicked him out of Iran and he died in disgrace in Egypt.

 

Kaveh Nouraee :It's nice to see that many people agree with me.  Not one person on this site agrees with you.  If you don't like America you should go back to where you came from and stop living off America.  President Carter was a freedom fighter.  He won the Nobel Peace prize and built homes for the poor.  President Carter helped the Shah so much...in 1979, the Shah was not even able to help himself.  President Carter even permitted the Shah to come to New York for medical treatment during the 444 day hostage crisis.  You are such an ungrateful person.  As I said before, if you don't like America you can go back to Iran and live with Ayat'Allah Seyed Ali Khamenei.  

 


shushtari

reza jaan

by shushtari on

i love that last line brother.....

I will personally buy a round for you, kaveh and anyone else who is willing to celebrate getting our country back!!!!!!

stay thirsty indeed my friends!!! 


Reza-Rio de Janeiro

Truth must be told !!!

by Reza-Rio de Janeiro on

Another viscious treatment of mankind by EVIL I.R. This is another very sad and heart breaking document that sadly proves of how so many ignorant Iranians (especially our so called intellectuals) were following, supported and gave the ultimate power of a country and a nation to bunch of criminal psycho-paths in the name of Islam!!! To treat human beings/Iranians in such shameful and EVIL way???

There are many concpiracy theories of how these I.R. criminals were supported and installed in our poor beloved Motherland Iran. And there are undeniable facts, documents and proofs which can be written in many miles/kilometers on those...

Unfortunately, above all other reasons, there were simply way too many uneducated/ignorant Iranians back then. I am not a Shahi, but honestly Iranians (except fractions of them who were not united by any means) had no clue who they were, what they had, where they stood in life , what was right and what was wrong!!! Who's fault? That's another 1400 year story/sad history...

Thank God, Today Iranians have changed so dramatically , NOT because of I.R.'s positive contribution to them or mankind, but due to massive amount of suffering inflicted upon them by EVIL I.R. and their foreign collaborators... 

Moreover, Inevitable global modernity, technology, mass communication, media and etc. along with massive suffering woke Iranians up!!! Thank God, finally!

I.R.  and its supporters can do whatever they have to do in order to survive a bit longer with their EVIL and shameful lives, however, TIME IS NO LONGER on their sides and they know this so damn well...

Iranians today, after over 30 years of crimes committed by Islamic Republic (and in the name of Islam) against humanity and against them have finally woken up !!! They are fully aware NOW!

Even the kids that have not seen or lived a single day of their lives before Islamic Republic can distinguish the difference between Good and Evil in Iran today...  And they also know what is going on in the world despite all the I.R.'s censorships... 

Victory and Freedom belongs to those aware Iranians who can recognize it  now finally! That's why they are willing to give their precious lives and with an empty hands and without the support of any foreign entity that has betrayed their previous generations and still works against them behind the curtins!!!! Victory is their right and belongs to them now!!! And count down for their Freedom and Prosperity has already started!

Criminal Islamic Republic can not silence over 60 million FREEDOM FIGHTERS! It's over!!!

In wise words of the most interesting man in the world : "Stay Thirsty my friends! " because our biggest national party is around the corner... :-) 

Iran and Iranians will be FREE at last.

Peace and Love


Afshin_Afshar

del

by Afshin_Afshar on

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Freedom5

Dreamer , I did not know you pay taxes.....

by Freedom5 on

Dreamer , since you have so much time to post comments on every thing you see I highly doubt you hold a job. It seems that you know a lot about all the free govenment assistance in the US one would think you are actually one who gets them. The shah's time has gone and the history will judge him. You should spend your energy and time to help your country but...... you are already sold your country by calling yourself AMERICAN DREAMER. I don't expect more from you.... All you do is accusing people of this and that which is all baseless. It seems that you know alot about the revolution .. Why did'nt you stay in IRAN and defent it since you beliveing in it so profoundly. YOU ARE a HYPOCRITE and your advise is claptrap.


Kaveh Nouraee

Dreamer

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Carpenter, Banayan, Cohen, Tehrani, and all the other names you post under:

Your beloved Carter was suckling at your beloved Khomeini's teat. As you are suckling on Khamenei and his monkey.

What you know about the revolution (or anything else for that matter) couldn't even fill the space taken by a microbe in a science lab.

Your cover has been blown...yet again.

You are worse than Wile E. Coyote. At least he's entertaining!


Anonymous8

American Dream,

by Anonymous8 on

you must be truely american, because you don't know the depth of bogus conspiracy theories iranians believe!

you are right about Carter.


rtayebi1

oh gee wheez

by rtayebi1 on

I did not realize telling an Iranian to go back to Iran is going to piss off  so Many of us AMERICAN DREAMER GO BACK TO MARS!!! LO~V  LOTS OF LOVE


Truth Seeker

Another Crime that makes Iranians happy

by Truth Seeker on


American Dream

Kaveh Nouraee, my advice stands...

by American Dream on

the clip you offer is just not dealing with reality.  President Carter was a great supporter of the Shah.

In 1979 when over 30 million Iranians hit the streets of Iran and even went so far to take down the statues of the Shah and his father Reza Khan in Tehran even the army surrendered and accepted the Iranian Revolution.

It is nice that you live in the United States.  It is nice that you are offered food stamps, welfare and free medical assistance through the taxes I pay.

There are many in the United States that fled Iran in the late 1970s and were perpetually on government assisstance.  Shabaan Jafari, a staunch Shah supporter, who helped the Shah regain his throne in 1953, was one of the biggest recipients of welfare in southern California.

Look at this clip and see the truth about Iranian history that led to the Iranian revolution.  Look what the masses of Iranians chant!

And here is your objective historical clip on Iranian history:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY0ixG94cHE

Kaveh, it's time to get on a plane and connect to an Iran Air flight through Europe and go back to where you came from.

Kaveh, you are a bafoon.