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but there is something new here, war or no war we need to unite

It is not that the intelligence services did not know about this. It is that publicly we are entering a new phase.

Sanctions followed by war starting perhaps in January.

Just imagine a war with nuclear weapons or even nuclear fuel involved.

Even if non-nuclear bunker busting bombs such as the GBU-39 were used they would be busting a centre that has uranium enriched material, and even if the fall out does not enter the atmosphere it could enter the underground water supply and poison a massive area and in dense areas cause the death of millions.

Knowing this regime, it would use the population as human shields to win sympathy as a strategy carried in Lebanon, and retaliate with small bombs or even dirty bombs that could fit in a suitcase. I'm guessing that in the absence of a military might it would rely on sleeper cells. Needless to say that the Iranian community outside Iran in all walks of life would have to be placed under confinement because the West will not know friend from foe. IRI would likely attack its neighbours such as Saudis in a similar manner.

War or not War, we need to have a strong lobby to represent us or others will decide our fate.

Many of the organizations that exist are business interest, or lobbies for IRI so we need to form new ones and be active to keep them safe.

It would be difficult to bomb our country if we are actively seen fighting for human rights in the West and raise our voices against the war. We need to try to win over the population. Hopefully, our action outside Iran would encourage more action such as general strike inside and bring the regime down before they escalate to war.

This is all going into the article that I'm currently writing.

These is nothing new here!

As the lady reporter stated in the Sky news interview, the Western intelligence agencies have known about this document and the project for some time. The media just got a hold of it now!

Iran, as a nation state, I

Iran, as a nation state, I believe, a signatory to the various non-proliferation treaties, has an absolute right to develop nuclear weaponry.

It would be better to leave Iran to develop her nuclear weapons and for her to suffer the cost of their maintenance, keeping them prepared, the cost of silo's to protect the launch vehicles, the personnel to defend the bases, all in the knowledge that China, Russia and the US will know where these weapons are to a couple of metres and will have enough retaliatory weapons targeted to ensure that Tehran becomes a five thousand hectare sterile zone if they so much as sniff a launch of an Iranian nuclear missile.

Welcome to the nuclear club... Iran .... it will bankrupt you and make you more at risk of the Armageddon you seek to prevent by procuring said weapon.

As it has been demonstrated serious sanction is a pretext to war

We saw that in Iraq case. They needed to show/pretence that war was their last option, "for sending their man & women to the harms way" so they set up the stage for it. A condition that they know for sure will not work, in Iraq case, it was demanded for Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq knowing well that they would not do such thing.

Once their demand is not met and every body (at lease sane people) agree that sanction will not bring down IRI, then they give themselves all the justification for unleashing their military force to attack and possibly occupy another nation. In the mean time, the however many hundreds of thousand that die in the process is the price that must be paid for "freedom" (i.e. to drive big a$$ SUV) since oil will be plentiful.

Mehrdad

But why do you think this

But why do you think this may mean war? I thought they were talking of serious sanctions.

I have no idea about the authenticity of this memo

And at best, I am very suspicious. Having said that, I agree with you and that we need to be united against war/sanction against Iran and we need to be united in supporting the people on the streets of Tehran and other cities.

I am signing and supporting your petition

Mehrdad

This is terrible

This is what I'm trying to warn people about. We have perhaps about a year to form a strong lobby outside Iran and stop a nuclear war. A lobby smart enough to use legislative power rather than stand at street corners and appeal to passers by, a movement that could even encourage more people inside Iran to come out and crush IRI with a long general strike because they feel supported on the outside, and do this before a war starts, the country breaks up or an alien nation cherry picks your future regime.  

That is why you need to help me kick start the one million signatures campaign as a baby step towards such a lobby. Unfortunately complacency could kill our future. You saw how quickly the Majid campaign took off when it was supported by our IC community, why not do the same for this petition?

My voice does not go very far, I am not Reza Pahlavi, Makhmalbaf, or even JJ who most of you seem to listen to, but hear my message and make this campaign yours. You are all running out of time to save Iran.

By the way as I have explained many times now this petition is to stop companies selling technology that is used for oppression of Iranian people to be stopped. No sanctions on Iran but a stop on companies like Nokia selling web filters and cell phone taps to Iran. It is not so much the petiton but the fact that we could use it as a basis to be seen amongst out communities fighting for Human rights and be seen that we can change laws in the West in our favour. If you take one million signatures of say EU or US citizens, your representative would not even dare ignore you, and that is the power that other strong lobbies can show, and we need to do the same.