Bill Moyers on Mideast Violence

Poignant essay on Israel/Gaza

The whole segment is worth watching -- it begins with coverage of a mostly ignored anti-war march this week in Washington.

11-Jan-2009
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Darius Kadivar

mehrban1 Its "KAD" NOT "KHAD"

by Darius Kadivar on

Oh cause Hossein's Predicament is not about Life and Death ?

As for my Coffee Statement is was not meant to be funny ! Its Sincere and I count on drinking my Coffee with Him when he is freed.

Your Welcome to Join ... If You Learn to Spell my Name Correctly.  


Darius Kadivar

Anonymous99999999999

by Darius Kadivar on

I do not claim that All medias in the US are saying the Truth or are Objective. One simply needs to look at FOX or CNN ( Much Better channel thought than FOX) in their reports. But you have enough different views and intellectual discourse available on enough channels that make a difference. We have the same problem in France ( but maybe a little less than in the US).

And of course the Internet also plays a major role today in informing widely. But In Iran or any dictatorial regime be it in the Middle East or Elsewhere even the Internet is filtered.

But yes there is always a constant battle between Journalistic ethics and its relation with censorship or power. But at least one system ( the democratic one) cannot entirely confiscate  and distort information whereas the other (dictatorial) it does and can without allowing contradiction.


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to Darius Kadivar

by Anonymous99999999999 (not verified) on

Please distinguish Public TV and network knews. this clip does not prove fairness in American media today. Bill Moyers always complains about network news. Bill Moyers is not a your typical american reporter and his news is not typical. So, yes, i can compare the fake knews in America to fake knews in Iran. they are both the same shit, no difference what so ever. Yes, America is better than iran in freedom of speech, because there would be no such thing as public TV on iranian system. But as far as the network news, they are lying to people, just like iranian networks are lying to iranian poeple.


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to mehrban1

by Anonymous9999999999 (not verified) on

i love your mind.


Darius Kadivar

Granted Freddy Man ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Forgive My French Accent it influences my Spelling.

Bonne Nuit L'Amerloque ...

PS:Learn some French my Boy it is good for the nerves you know


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A Good Man ..

by A Fair Person (not verified) on

A Kind Heart, and an Intelligent Analysis


choghok

To MRX1, Zion and a like.

by choghok on

Only fools look for easy answers on difficult questions. that is what Khomeini did when he promised all his promises before the revolution, that is what Bush did on his war with Iraq and that is what Israel does today. But hey Olmert and his crew wants to win the next election perhaps. War is the easy answer to a very difficult problem and you also want an easy answer so that is why war is ok with you.

If the answer to your question would be given easily then it would have been solved already because Israels safety comes with a final peace solution and not war.

And what does this Israeli solution return in result? It generates Hamas soldiers and supporters for the next 50 years, It fuels right winger crazy people in the whole region from Marocko in west to Indonesia to the east. And empowering crazy right wingers gives Ahmaghinejad power to attack people like Shirin Ebadi and calling them Israeli supporter.

/Bidar bash ke ma bekhabim


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MrX, I appreciate your question

by mehrban1 (not verified) on

The hammas, and hizbollah, did not suddenly appear on the borders of Israel yesterday and started sending rockets to disturb the Israeli peace. The people in Gaza used to live in what is now called Israel. Some through pressures of war and some through force were displaced from their homes and pushed to this narrow piece of land called the Gaza strip which I have heard is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. In 2005 there was a seize fire between Israel and the Hammas in spite of which Israel proceeded to openly assassinate Hammas leaders. Also since 2005 when Hammas won the Democratic election in Gaza Israel has shut Gaza off from all borders food, medicine, etc could not get to Gaza but through the tunnels to Egypt (the other Palestinian territory the West Bank is not contiguous to Gaza). Hammas in its non military wing same as hizballah has done alot of good for the Palestinians and their survival. As you know the story is long but this may help as a start.

Khadivar please do not talk about coffee in Paris when the subject matter here is life and death.


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Darius For Heaven's sake,

by Freddy man (not verified) on

Darius
For Heaven's sake, please spell Korea correctly. This is a disgrace.


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agreed Kadivar

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Kadivar says: "He promised me a Coffee in Paris, I count on his return and in good physical and moral health!"

Kadivar, I agree with you regarding the freedom of press. I hope we one day have it in Iran.
Hopefully you'll have a coffee with Derakhshan soon, but I thought you only drink coffee with kings, queens, Princes, Princesses, counts (e.g Count Dracula), .. and not any ordinary subjects!


Darius Kadivar

Balanced Report which You will NEVER See on IRI/Syrian TV

by Darius Kadivar on

Well it just proves that Journalists in a Foreign Power like America ( Often Unjustly compared to an Imperialistic Power be it during the Korean or Vietnam War by Left Wing Demagogues who spilled crocodile tears on the Cuban Revolution and who today are superseded  by IRI/Hamas Apologists ) with interests in this region can do despite their countires Historical Allegience to Israel since its creation in 1948 after all has a free press that allows such balanced commentaries unlike those on Syrian or Iranian TV.

Its Called Democracy I suppose ...

Just to say that Unlike Nazi Germany Even today on Israeli TV one can see  uncensored and heated debates on the current situation in Gaza. I very Much doubt that this was possible on National German Radio when the Nazis Invaded Poland ...

Oh By the Way Anyone heard anything new regarding Hossein Derakhshan's Whereabouts ? ...

//enduringamerica.com/2008/12/30/hossein-derakhshan-arrest-confirmed/

He promised me a Coffee in Paris, I count on his return and in good physical and moral health !

 


MRX1

I ask this question again!

by MRX1 on

Forget about Isreal, I know you guys don't like Isreal any way, no matter what they do or they don't do. so here is my question as an Iranian musilm to you guys, cause i know you guys are not racist and you are way more sophisticed and educated apparently than I am:

what is an appropriate response when you are dealing with organizations like Hezbolah, hamas, islamic jihad, taliban  and so on? Please tell me beside the usuall DIALOGUE , WAR is bad and people DIE you have another solution?  Please tell me how you people deal with people with 12th century menthality? ( I suspect you don't caused you all scaped to comfort of U.S and Europe) but I am curious what do you do? what do you guys recommand? hopefully a racist person as some one called me in here can learn some thing from enlighted people like you guys.

Ma ke montazerim, be farmayeed.

 

 


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what was nailed Zion?

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Zion says: "You nailed it right on. Thanks pal."

Zion_jAn, MRX1 just insulted a large group of people in the Middle East. He didn't achieve anything. You appear to be the only one who felt the nail, are you pleased with it?


capt_ayhab

MRX1

by capt_ayhab on

You are astonishingly dense and racist.

capt_ayhab [-YT]


capt_ayhab

Thanks M R

by capt_ayhab on

Excellent and heart breaking video. I have tears in my eyes as I type.

 

capt_ayhab [-YT]


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Zion and Mrx

by mehrban1 (not verified) on

Through your rabbi, friends or family join us and try to put pressure on Israel to stop the abuse of the Palestinian people. I am proud of my Jewish Friends who stand against this bloodshed.


Zion

Dear MRX1

by Zion on

You nailed it right on. Thanks pal.


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he is

by عبدالله قصاب (not verified) on

he is now starting to sound like Ralf Nader, a useless middle-of-the-ghetto political analyst.


Jahanshah Javid

There's hope

by Jahanshah Javid on

Pure common sense.


gol-dust

Zion, hiding? Shame on U! Google "Money Masters"

by gol-dust on

You are partner in crime! Shame on U and all the israelis and their supporters! You know no God, no humanity! You get what you deserve! Wait and see, if you believe in your own god!  U R just waiting before U come back w/ your BS propeganda you chicken Sh..

If israel acts this way for a while, then I can see the mahmood's projection will come true! The world rulers! The Money Masters! //video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6076118677860424204

 


IRANdokht

Here are the people who pay the price...

by IRANdokht on

Well said Mr Moyers. I for one, am relieved to see that humanity is not dead yet...

IRANdokht


Khar

THANK YOU MR. MOYERS...

by Khar on

for Speaking out and telling it like it is, Thank You Sir!!!


MRX1

another phony

by MRX1 on

so what is this compassionate liberal proposing? first he says Isreal has right to defend itself aganist hamas. then just like a feel good liberal full of hot air, he will not tell you how isreal is suppose to protect itself? All you hear from people like this is that war is bad and people die. NO Kidding! give us some solutions sherlok. what do you do with taliban, hamas, hezbollah and the rest of these savage backward guys with 12th century menthality? 


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He's beating around the bush...

by a;dkjfa;djafd; (not verified) on

Even moyers is reluctant to differentiate between zionists and Israli jews.

There is a big difference. Israli Jews are bistandards as zionists are the main criminals who invade and kill palestine and it's innocnet civilians. These same criminals wanted help to attack Iran to disable it's scientific progress designed for independance.

The mullah's are brilliant to support Hamas and hezabullah. Otherwise, these criminal zionist will move in on Iran as they did with native american's, Mexican americans, Native australians, south africans, just to name a few.


Anonymously

good find

by Anonymously on

and thanks for posting it. Moyers is indeed an unquenchable voice of consciousness in an increasingly unconscionable times.


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Bravo!

by BR (not verified) on

Bill Moyer is one of the few decent journalists who has not been totally sold to the powerful lobby in the US. What we need in this country (the cradle of democracy and freedom) is our constitutional rights back: right to speak freely and loudly without the fear of being singled out or losing our jobs and other privileges by telling the truth. God bless Bill Moyer, and hope that more of his kind will prevail. Otherwise, the US media will follow what we see in Iran and other backward societies today.


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wow

by RZ (not verified) on

Ye nafar jorat kard bege bala cheshe israel abrooe .........


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Bill Moyer is the voice of reason among the zionist infected

by Observer (not verified) on

media in our country. Thanks for posting it.


ghalam-doon

Who's to blame?

by ghalam-doon on

So who's to blame? We keep hearing the blame is shared between the people who bomb schools and hospitals on one hand and the Islamic extremists like Hamas on the other. Are the Zionists to be blamed? Who is supporting the Zionists? Is it only the governments and if it is, to what purpose? All these pundits who try to justify the onslaught get very excited when a prominent Jew becomes appalled  by the constant killing and maiming and at the same time, they try to remain politically correct. We try to remain politically correct.

 

There is a reason for the rise of "anti-Semitism" in Europe and it is not just Zionists in Israel or Islamic extremists in Gaza.  It's the silence of the Jewish communities and their blind support of Israel in Europe and North America. And every time someone brings up this subject, the same politically correct people point out the same "good" Jews like the rabbis or university professors who have renounced Israel.  But they're few and we know what they've been labelled as: "self-hating Jews."