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May Sahel and Steve rest in peace and God give their families the capacity to cope with this tragedy.

In my opinion, some the comments made here werre not appropriate for this blog.  I, myself, had so much more to say but thought it'd be more appropriate to write my own blog for that purpose.

You are welcome to read it, and perhaps contribute to it, here:

//iranian.com/main/blog/anvar/great-irani...

Anvar

To Faryar

"You really would be a much happier person if you were able to  rid your self of this animosity that simply does not make sense to me."

And there, in the arrogance of the spirit that claims both knowledge of mine and its medicine, and the medicine required for the world at large, I rest my case. 

Sophia..

As long as you are compelled to throw dirt and fester within with such poison, against Bahais; with such outrageous comments, neither you or Zulf-Wahid can be taken seriously.

My Agenda is clear;I stand to defend what you so desperately try to defame and shamelessly attack with outrageous lies and accusations, using words like "Totaitarian" etc.

However, whatever name you call me is fine with me, even one as offensive as "Basij"; coming from you and your old buddy and suspect  Zulf-Wahid with such well known and clear Anti Bahai agenda; all your comments have absolutely or of  no significance to me and probably of little interest to most informed readers.

You really would be a much happier person if you were able to  rid your self of this animosity that simply does not make sense to me.

peace

faryar

Sahel Kazemi has been buried in Florida

The link that follows is the article:

//www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/07/1...

I know in my heart of hearts, that to many Iranians, Iranian Americans and Americans whose ancestors immigrated from Iran or Persia,  Ms. Sahel Kazemi will and shall be always be views as a Persian Princess.

I dedicate the following clip to Ms. Sahel Kazemi, the Neda of our times and for all times:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHbiolraTDA

Maybe, one day, people will visit Ms. Sahel Kazemi's grave like people visit Elvis's grave.  And why not?

God Bless America.

to sunshine and rainbows

Hi Sunshine and Rainbows, I think you might want to re-read what Zulfiqar said below regarding scriptural taboos- that a) "Drinking, having sex outside of wedlock, carrying on etc, are all serious scriptural taboos and no-nos amongst conservative and fundamentalist Bahai's , and in a former generation the Baha'i authorities would clamp down hard on such behavior."

 and b)The point stands: Sahel Kazemi is representative of a pervasive cultural pattern within the Baha'i community. She is not to be condemned or judged because there are many more like her amongst this present generation of Iranian Baha'is. Perhaps the accounts of many of those kids who once attended the Maxwell Baha'i school in BC, Canada can be brought to give corroboration of such patterns, or perhaps those who attended the Panjgeni Baha'i school in India in the late 1970s and early 1980s, who experienced similar incidents (albeit not as dramatic but just as tragic) as this recent episode with Sahel Kazemi and Mr Mcnair."

 As you suggest  "They are there because the taboos have been going on for ages. They are in scriptures, written by men, so men can control womans bodies, where will the males find a virgin if all females are allowed to fornicate as men do??"

And: "Salhel was a human being, mislead by the hero and material worship of the western world. After all did not the death of Jackson take the front page, over the death of woman and children in Iran and Afganistan, what about Honduras?  

 Zulfiqar was pointing out that these are Baha'i fundamentalist "taboos" which would have been cracked down upon or widely condemned in other historical contexts, and that their breaking is indicative of pressures similar to the ones which you identify, not making a moral judgement about Sahel herself. And as they later point out:

 "Such criticism also is meant in the spirit of informing the wider community so it does not happen again, since as of now there are many Sahel Kazemis amongst the Baha'i community waiting to happen at any moment.

As such I am calling the general Iranian community to help these people and reach out to them more than usual: their self-imposed sectarian insularity of many years and the exclusivist-triumphalist religious brainwashing that goes with it is pushing many otherwise good people over the edge as it did with Ms Kazemi."

You sound like you actually share similar concerns here- and I totally agree with you on the whole Michael Jackson thing. 

scriptural taboos

  Zulfiqar 110, how can you reduce a womans anguish to a scriptural taboo? Why do you think these taboos are in the scriptural everywhere? They are there because the taboos have been going on for ages. They are in scriptures, written by men, so men can control womans bodies, where will the males find a virgin if all females are allowed to fornicate as men do??  Salhel was a human being, mislead by the hero and material worship of the western world. After all did not the death of Jackson take the front page, over the death of woman and children in Iran and Afganistan, what about Honduras? I like "to thy own self be true" which I translate as keep yourself shameless then the rest will follow from example. As long as this hero worship is in the media,it shows that we are okay with anything. What about the spiritual taboos of mcnairs religion, it is okay cause he knew god, made in mans image, to do as he wishes.

  Sahel is like scriptures, cause through death she has freed other woman.

Pays the bills sanctimonius

This is great you have now called every homemaker "a high priced hooker" or "kept woman"  you think a marriage licience makes it different? Whom are you if not your husbands and childrens person?? Why is it okay for a child of 18 to be in the army, yet not old enough to legally buy liquor in some states. 20 is very young and being loved is very important!!  P.S. you just called Mrs McNair the same!!  Where is the sisterhood of all Woman, when woman married think they are better than those single? Be careful you are buying into male values.

Sahel a Woman

  Sahel was a woman a very young, naive woman, a woman who elevated herself on the values that society says are great, A man, in small letters, because this was not a honorable man. All I hear is let us remember mcnair for the good things he has done!!!  Oh course, he was a male person and so we must not count his wrong doings after all whom has been wronged, Salel, a woman, Michelle McNair, a woman and another, new woman with no face and his children, all of which have no value in society. The person at the faith place, that was suppose to be the mcnair spiritual leader said "he, mcnair, knew god, well then god must be okay with lies and deciet if you know god, you are okay and clear to do anything. I suggest he, mcnair, knew nothing but sports and did not even know himself, but cared only about his flesh pleasures. Sahel bought into the whole pleasure seeking life, but when it started to go very wrong had no path to follow.  The Guilty person in this whole mess is the wife, a woman who let this male person act disrespectful to her. She should have made a public statement yrs ago, saying my husband is a male person, who uses woman BE AWARE. Why do these woman keep silent. Silents is the strong powerful enabler. Was her status elavated on his position in life, not her own self. I wish her peace now, peace with herself and her children.

 What about all the men, who were in mcnair's "big boys club" the men who thought his behavior was okay, the man whom shared the apartment with mcnair? Where is the BIG GIRLS CLUB? WOMAN????

SAHEL, I grieve for you. I know of you, all woman know of you. We know the feeling of giving of oneself and the betrayal.   Sahel you represent many woman whom are lost and not strong in themselves. I appeal to all woman to join together and help one another. Woman need to make better choices: LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF. Be strong in yourself, not on the relationship with a male. Love yourself, only then can you truely love another honerably. I think of Sahel and how lonely she must have been those last moments before she pulled the trigger. I did not know that she had no mother to call. I, as a mother am so glad that I am there to talk with my daughters about their choices, good and bad. Peace to the family of Sahel. I send you a hug. 

I end with a quote that I read often, because I believe we are still ,as humans, very much jewels but in the rough when it comes to our emotions: " we are not yet the people we have been waiting for. And if we don't start talking sense to our children, they won"t be the ones we are waiting for either"  this quote I took from Sam Harris. Eveyone is waiting for the chosen ones, we are them now let us chose. Chose life today.

to Faryar

Let me tell you something, Faryar. You are in absolutely no position right now to make these accusations against Zulfiqar, and they are right that your language and tone is utterly reminiscent of a dangerous sectarian diatribe. You need to take the time to read what Zulfiqar has just written below, and the thoughtful way in which they have articulated the greater concerns for sectors of the Iranian community (with which I'm sure many people here have sympathy) arising from the sad case of the young woman in this story.

You also need to consider your position in general to the commentary Zulfiqar and others have offered in discussing the political tactics needed to seal victory over the dictatorship. You clearly posted the article on the so called "Freedom Monument" so as to in some way provide an associative motif, created by a prominent member of the Baha'i community, for the current struggles occurring in Iran. Now, Zulfiqar (amongst many others) has maintained a strong, clearly articulated and politically consistent voice speaking out against the current tyranny, oppression and corruption being fought at this, one of the most important periods in Iran's history. But instead of standing up and making overtly political statements against this oppression (which you are so eager to make under the banner of discussing "human rights" in some sort of non-existent pseudo-political vacuum when it suites your own Baha'i oppression narrative), you make veiled political associations with monuments, that believe it or not, some people do not perceive as actually standing for (either architectually or metaphorically) the genuine, deep rooted historical Persian spirit that now more than ever, must rise above the ghastly, spiritually oppressive, and ideologically corrupt context it has found itself in.

I am quite frankly appalled at the continuing arrogance and vitriol with which you judge the clearly articulated critiques put forward by Zulfiqar, and utterly myopic 'holier than thou' light in which you attempt to caste your own Baha'i driven agenda. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot use the cover of Baha'is not getting involved in politics to attempt to further your cause and its identity HOW AND WHEN IT SUITES YOU. 

Just listen to the comment you made in your other blog: //iranian.com/main/blog/faryarm/man-behind-tehrans-freedom-monument 

"All Bahais are Servants..

From the highest elected body to the local Bahai in New york, Karachi, Cairo, Sanfranciso or the little Village in Kenya or in the Amazon or anywhere on the planet.

You Badi19 should come clean and give the reason why you hold such grudge against thankless individuals who are literally servants without material gain who hold no rank or claim and have nothing to benefit from their contribution except to aid in building a better society."

This is starry eyed, ideological fantasy, and a form of simplistic religious nonsense (and you're surely not implying, especially here that all Baha'is are saints, are you?) which puts you squarely in the camp of other religious ideologues who have caused so much pain for the people of Iran. Yes, there are many Baha'is of distinguished character, and good intentions, but YOUR IDEOLOGY IS TOTALITARIAN. Just like all those amongst the Iranian community who wish to see lasting change brought to the system which has made a mockery of so much of the true Persian spirit, Zulfiqar is standing up against the very regime which for so long YOU and many other Baha'is have claimed is at the core of your own struggle for freedom and justice. They also quite rightly point out that the very model of theocratic rule ,exemplified by the  Baha'i system, bears a great deal of structural similarity to the current regime in Iran. Not only this, but the way you and others have operated in a "herd attack" mentality against anyone who dares question the nature and legitimacy of the Baha'i system no and in the past has demonstrated that, yes, you have a mindset that is basiji like in its execution. 

You also said:

"Faith and Religion are personal matters. The sad case of Sahel proves that Bahai's are free to choose their Path and religion in life and are personally responsible for their actions." 

 If this is true, why then do you need an institutional body administering so many aspect of life, and teams of people to dob them in if they fall off the officially defined Path (need I post the document from the Institution of the Counsellors again)? The Baha'i Theocratic New World Order is NOT PERSONAL. 

These two songs dedicated to Sahel

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv1N6TVCnLs&feature...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-AYAv0IoWI

May she rest in peace.

Another reason I am proud of Sahel

Think of how many other young girls, like heself, sahel saved.  The new girl friend is just another one.  

How many man now think twice, before taking advantage of another venerable girl?

Think that girl she potentially saved is your sister, your daughter, your relative, your blood, your skin.

The problem is that US media is glamorizing a life style that leads to distraction of people’s lives.  From the day these gladiators are in the college they are promoting life style of sleaze balls, drunks, and drug addicts.  A life style with value system that says cheating in your wife is ok as long as you do not get caught, drinking is cool, drugs are ok, and taking advantage of venerable people is the way of winners!  Losers and nerds are those people who do not do these things.   

Murder and Hero are just point of views here are some example:
Napoleon Bonaparte
Sharman
Changiz Khan  

I am a US citizen and If she would not have killed herself and I was chosen as her juror, I would not convicted her to more than man slather.  This is a lot to say because I am a man, you could just imagine how would a women juror feels about it.  

Oh by the way Jakarta, from the examination of her credit card, it shows that he was making her to buy things for him.  I really think that he was pimping or extorting money from her.   She was making payment on the car.

So sleaze balls, Iranian kind like Kaveh or  other  kind such McNeir,  be aware:  Hurting girls (people) and abusing girls (people) have no good ending, it eventually catch up with you.

So may we say a prayer for Sahel’s soul.

May Sahel rest in Peace, as peaceful as her name

I am proud of her

Let us get the facts about her.

She lost her mom at age 9.

Raised in foreign country by a relative.

No one to tell her what is right or wrong.

No one to fall back to.

Now a man seduces her, take advantage of her and destroys her life.  

She does not get mad, she gets even.

I think if McNeir’s wife was half the women Sahel was, she should have done it long time ago.  Then again McNier's wife was a patsy and a push over.

On the other hand, Sahel was from great heritage of people who get even and are not going to take it.  McNier did not know that how many abused women in her native land have killed their husbands by poison, or other methods.  McNier used to deal with patsies and pushovers like his wife.

Yes she made mistakes, but who hasn't.
It has been said that those who will stand against injustice and dye are martyrs.  She stood her ground, she was brave.  She died for her cause. Is she a martyr?  Only god knows.

It has been said good die young, and she was young.

We are proud of you for standing your ground and fighting for your rights.

May you rest in peace Sahel.

Faryar, you and your kind have already been judged by history

People should look at Mr Faryar Mansouri's hateful, sectarian ("Basiji") rant and ask themselves whether the language of such a blind, sectarian motivated diatribe doesn't resonate verbatim with the language, diction, form and content of such similar diatribes the people of Iran have been subjected to in these past thirty years by the Islamic Republic and its form of theofascism. Likewise as with the mullahs and the supporters of the Supreme Leader who cannot stomach the slightest criticism without it becoming a criticism of their religion as a whole, and with them then wishing fire and brimstone on their critics, so too with those Baha'i apologists of a similar theofascist system as the vilayat-i-faqih.

The point stands: Sahel Kazemi is representative of a pervasive cultural pattern within the Baha'i community. She is not to be condemned or judged because there are many more like her amongst this present generation of Iranian Baha'is. Perhaps the accounts of many of those kids who once attended the Maxwell Baha'i school in BC, Canada can be brought to give corroboration of such patterns, or perhaps those who attended the Panjgeni Baha'i school in India in the late 1970s and early 1980s, who experienced similar incidents (albeit not as dramatic but just as tragic) as this recent episode with Sahel Kazemi and Mr Mcnair.

Such criticism also is meant in the spirit of informing the wider community so it does not happen again, since as of now there are many Sahel Kazemis amongst the Baha'i community waiting to happen at any moment.

As such I am calling the general Iranian community to help these people and reach out to them more than usual: their self-imposed sectarian insularity of many years and the exclusivist-triumphalist religious brainwashing that goes with it is pushing many otherwise good people over the edge as it did with Ms Kazemi.

jamh

Affairs, homicides, suicides, and affairs that end in homicide or suicide unfortunately happen every day. It's just another one of the many facts of life. Of course, this is one of those facts that suck.

Sorry, but I just can't think of another way to put it.

Things like that don't incense me. But what does raise my level of anger is this tendency to make excuses for this type of behavior. Yes, it's probably easier to make excuses and explain the behavior away, rather than confront and correct it, but the fact is this is just plain wrong. On every level.

Where you see an act of desperation, I see an act of cowardice and selfishness.

fish

That's a word that gets used way too loosely in my book.  Your last comment regarding how she made all Iranians look bad...

You are totally right. She didn't make Iranians look bad. She made Iranians look like normal human beings, just like everyone else. What I don't understand is why some people here seem to think that's awful. No community is perfect.

Okay y'all

The young woman is dead now. Why are people still arguing over it? She made her choices and they cannot be changed. For every choice made there is a consequence whether good or bad.

The ones suffering are the young woman's family and McNair's family.

enough

 Enough of sensationalism.

Lets just pray that their souls find some peace.

-YT 

Zulf; You too will pass !

Zulfigar

You have proven that your  prime occupation is  attacking Bahais in any shape or form;perhaps sometime soon you can reveal your true identity and the real reason for your intense hatred, and how you benefit from this sudden campaign of yours, whether ideological or possibly financial, or both; that is unless you are not Wahid/Nima with a new IP Address.

Previously, You turn The accomplishment of an architect in to an ant Bahai attack.

Today, you choose to use the tragic case of a girl from a refugee Bahai family who had fled iran to Turkey, with all its hardships to mount more attacks.

Faith and Religion are personal matters. The sad case of Sahel proves that Bahai's are free to choose their Path and religion in life and are personally responsible for their actions.

As much as you have tried to portray Bahai Administration as some police action; this case proves that a Bahai's conduct is largely between him/her and God and no Bahai  can make or dictate to someone who has made a decision to leave the community  and not to abide by its standards.

It is blatantly obvious that Sahel had chosen a different lifestyle and path for herself, and no one not even her parents had any control over that.

The only diffrence between the Bahai community and the world at large is 

its noble goals which ultimately, can only be achieved, not by the presence of lofty standards but by individual deeds, and practice and loyalty to the spirit , the moral and spiritual teachings of Baha'u'llah, as exemplified by Abdul Baha.

For whatever reason, no doubt , you will go on with this futile Anti Bahai campaign of yours; just remember many much greater than you have tried to paint a different picture, they have come and gone; where are they now? Did they in any way succeed to stop the progress and the spread of The Bahais from an obscure new Persian faith to the rest of the planet?

Perhaps you already know the answer to that, its just that there is a huge blind spot that has dimmed your humanity and better judgement.

Sadly, You too will eventually pass on from this world with much to regret and answer for in the Highest Court of JUSTICE.

Sincerely

faryar 

Dear Kaveh, You are

Dear Kaveh,

You are insensed but I'm not sure at what. Her having an affair? Or her killing Steve?  You must realize that this is first a suicide and then a murder. It is an act of utter desparation. Do you know how many married affairs end up in this hell? Both here and in Iran? You see the end result, but the slide is never abrupt. It goes step by step. You don't know what lies prompted her to have the affair, and what lies kept it on. Empathy is not reserved for the righteous (if there is such a thing). Absolutely anyone can end up in any situation given the right circumstances.

I see her sparkle in the night. Vulnerable and desparate. And my heart reaches for her.

Survival trumps morality?

She was working at Dave & Buster's. She wasn't serving dirty old men, she was serving people in her age bracket. The place is a sports bar-restaurant and video arcade, for crying out loud.

Young and in debt. Oh, THAT"S a reason to kill your married boyfriend and yourself. Give me a freakin' break!

Show me a 20 year old who ISN'T in debt! THAT'S someone who merits glorifying, NOT this girl.

How can you say no? You open your mouth and you say "No". So not only she spreads her legs to this guy, but she also abandons any sense of self-respect in exchange for booze, drugs and a Caddy to please this guy. You have just described a complete whore!

Damn, the values some people have are just unfuckingbelievable!

Did it ever occur to you that the police perhaps recognized Steve McNair and sent him off in a taxi to prevent his public embarrassment? Or that maybe McNair and his friend knew better than to add more gasoline to the fire by accompanying her in the police car, assuming that was possible?

He did meet her there and bailed her out after she was booked.

Survivor, my ass.

Five 9mm slugs trumped your concept of "survival".

You judge with the

You judge with the polarized glasses of morality. But survival always trumps morality.

So you are a young girl working on your own as a waitress in Nashville.
You are bubbly and pretty and think you should be someone else, a
better life somewhere else. You are young but also in debt, your credit
card bills are piling up as life in the US of A is not exactly a bed of
roses.

Then you meet someone, someone famous, rich, who sweeps you off your
feet with cars, appartments overlooking the ball park, parasailing
trips. You go from hell to heaven. And he promises you things, soon all
your troubles will be over. There are parties and booze and drugs. And
how can you say no? This is his life, and you are in love.

I propose that the DUI incident was the needle that broke her back.
Things were not going as planned. That appartment was to be vacated for
a younger and prettier girl. She could see it in his eyes, the end. The
going back to serve on dirty old men. From limelight to an obscurity
that will never ever change.

If you see the video of her arrest, you will see that the men do not
go with her to the station. They don't defend her. Perhaps they laugh.
And there she is. Now in prison. No one cares.

She will show them all.  What she's made of.

High Horse? Don't be Ridiculous

Yes, I called her a skank. What should she be called? A lady?

Why must we engage in this trend of phony "social correctness"? She is what she is, or was what she was. It's sad that she is dead, but there is no way in hell I am going to glorify a girl whose single greatest achievement was spreading her legs for a married man. That happens every day, but what is so special here? That she was Iranian? Give me a freakin' break. An Iranian whore is still a whore.

Anonymouss, why would I be pissed? That she's Iranian? Ethinicity, nationality, religion...none of that makes one bit of difference.

Pissed that she was a mistress? Again, no. I don't hate the girl. I don't have a shred of respect for her, but I don't hate her.

But from what I'm reading you're the one with hate, saying that all men are dogs. Maybe you should consider associating with a better class of men.

And although it's really none of your business, the truth is no, I don't screw around, for your information. I have a daughter, and if I were to screw around with a bunch of different women it would be disrespectful to her and would teach her not to value herself as a person.

the only disgrace are those who do not know how to treat the

living or the dead, all the stone throwers

***********************
Sahel my Iranian sister
of my own spirit and my soul
prayers tonight my heart will say
may you reach our heavenly goal
Sahel my Iranian sister
of my own blood and my flesh
may the perfume of Love
keep thy soul renewed and refresh

Sahel Kazemi a Baha'i: not disgrace but typical among generation

//blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/girlfriend-hoped-to-wed-mcnair.html

Sahel Kazemi was a Baha'i, and a Baha'i typical of this generation of Iranian Baha'i kids. Drinking, having sex outside of wedlock, carrying on etc, are all serious scriptural taboos and no-nos amongst conservative and fundamentalist Baha'is, and in a former generation the Baha'i authorities would clamp down hard on such behavior. Yet this generation of Baha'i kids - and maybe some of their parents as well - are doing it all the time, everywhere, and the Baha'i authorities are just turning a blind eye to it all because they simply can't control it anymore.

If this story doesn't prove, at least to the Baha'is themselves, that the sun does not in fact shine out of their backsides,  that they are not the spotless moral paragons to the world they mistakenly believe themselves to be, and that they have similar problems as everyone else, I don't know what will.

Hopefully this incident can serve as a wake-up call to the Baha'i community, not that one should hold ones breath. 

drastic measures

I never understand why take someon else life if you are jealous frustrated angry or what. suicide is bad but killing someone is much worse and gurantee you end up in hell (if theres such thing) but what can one say? too much gun , alcohol, drugs , trash and violence on movies and tv and internet , culture of competition and greed and power on and on is heavy weight you gotta be strong to carry on living normally but is not difficult either think things over there are way more solutions to any problem than it seems like any of them better than drastic measures. drastic measures are only for truly weak and cowardish.

Sahel, a disgrace to Bahais and Iranians!

According to some report she was a Bahai refugee who lived in Turkey and then moved to USA.The same report says the Mcnair was seeing another young woman and this may have had some effect on her decision to did what she did.She could have just walked away and saved 2 lives.In any case it is sad to see an Iranian leave a bad image for us Iranians.

Sucks for everyone involved

In some weird way I feel sorry for this young girl. She seemed very very lost and in over her head with life. Obviously what she did was inexcusable but I think its more complex than just to write it off as some crazy girl that was jealous or someone with a murderous psychology. Her call to her boyfriend when she was arrested was very telling. If this young girl was given a proper upbringing, none of this would have happened. Yes, obviously nobody deserves to be murdered but I definitely think McNair was taking advantage of her in many ways, she was extremely young and naive and totally in over her head with the stresses of finances, being alone in the world, no one to rely on, etc etc. I guess the lesson is good guidance goes along way.

Get off your high horse Kaveh

Are you pissed that she's Iranian or a mistress? Do you hate all mistresses of the world? Men are dogs. They all want to screw around. Except Kaveh.

davood

You make this way too easy man.  I said before I don't know if you're Iranian or American but from your tone, I assume you're trying to pass yourself off as American.  So I'm going to treat you like MY hamvatan... ok?  McNair might have been a sports star but he was no hero.  That's a word that gets used way too loosely in my book.  Your last comment regarding how she made all Iranians look bad... comparing this to the hostage-taking, etc.  Well, really, there are no words I can respond with.  Nothing really quite fits.   I tried... delusional, idiotic, pathetic, misleading... a whole bunch more.  What I ended up with and really kinda like a lot is... FUCKING SICKO, MAN.

You're definitely on the short list of individuals on iranian.com who embarrass their respective countries... Iran or America.

Yana

I read somewhere that Sahel and her sister were orphaned in Iran when they were babies. I read that they were sent to an aunt who lives in Florida and that's where they were raised. She had a boyfriend, Keith, with whom she left for Alabama, but they had a falling out. In the DUI tape, when she is given one phone call to make, she calls that boyfriend, Keith. She told the police on the day she was arrested that she wasn't drunk, but high.

Sahel's life has had a very sad beginning and a sad ending. Her sister and family have said that she had called with news of an upcoming engagement with McNair. Please don't judge anyone you guys. Reflect on the loss of precious human life and move on.

How about if each and every one of you went and called and visited and hugged every single young person in your families now? Perhaps if we show young people we love them, they would never wish to take their lives or others'.