Congresswoman supports dividing Iran

AIPAC Middle East roundtable

At AIPAC's annual conference on May 3rd Jane Harman (Democrat-California) talks about how to "handle Iran," including "separation" of ethnic groups in the country, with the goal of increasing dissent:



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16-May-2009
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thank you jane harman

by kurdistan (not verified) on

This is great to know that someone else agrees with the nations that are forced to live in Iran. Kurds, Arabs, Azaries, etc, need to have control over their own land, and not be controlled by some barbaric regimes sitting in Tehran and ruling every one else. that regime is no good to anyone, especially for the other nations that are not Persians. Iran must be divided, Kurds need to have control over their own land, Arabs need their land back, and so as Azaries. these other nations have always been the ones killed in wars, and in the end of the day the government tortures, kills, and destroys those that ask for freedom. kids are being killed, dragged, and are not allowed to know their mother tongue.
Jane Harman, we, Kurds love you, and we love the Americans, and its allies. long live Kurdistan, long live America, long live democracy ,down with the mullahs in Iran.


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thank you jane harman

by kurdistan (not verified) on

This is great to know that someone else agrees with the nations that are forced to live in Iran. Kurds, Arabs, Azaries, etc, need to have control over their own land, and not be controlled by some barbaric regimes sitting in Tehran and ruling every one else. that regime is no good to anyone, especially for the other nations that are not Persians. Iran must be divided, Kurds need to have control over their own land, Arabs need their land back, and so as Azaries. these other nations have always been the ones killed in wars, and in the end of the day the government tortures, kills, and destroys those that ask for freedom. kids are being killed, dragged, and are not allowed to know their mother tongue.
Jane Harman, we, Kurds love you, and we love the Americans, and its allies. long live Kurdistan, long live America, long live democracy ,down with the mullahs in Iran.


Kaveh Nouraee

The REAL soumynonA

by Kaveh Nouraee on

If people wonder "which one", it is because of their own prejudices.

Even the word "extremism" in the general sense is misused. Inappropriate behavior is just that. Inappropriate behavior. By calling it extremism, we are legitimizing behavior that really has no place in civilized society by giving it a sanitizing name.

It really isn't a matter of sensitvity for me, religious or otherwise. I'm not even remotely religious. I just take issue with negative actions that are being redefined because someone wants to throw in a component in order to mask the true intent.

Take care.


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Oh la la

by Azerbaijani Turk (not verified) on

My dream is coming true. we are getting international support for our cause of united Azerbaijan. I love Jane Harman. I am gonna send her a thank you letter saying that she is the one who understand what is the best for that region. Jane Harman, we, Azerbaijanis love you.


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Re: Kaveh Nouraee

by The REAL soumynonA (not verified) on

I am afraid, it will not be "dead-on".

I understand your sensitivity to the using of "Jewish" and I can understand where you are coming from. However, if just stated "extremists", then people would wonder which one? Right?

If in the future a Muslim or Christian or Buddist or any, extremist group attacked Iranians the same way, then it should also specify which; And as you have observed in this web site, that aspect has always been clearly stated, even though wrongly in some cases too!

Take it easy.


Kaveh Nouraee

The REAL soumynonA

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Of course I don't.

But I also don't classify extremists as Jewish extremists or Moslems extremists or Arab extremists, or Christian extremists. I believe the use of a descriptive such as these tends to imply to some that since there's a religious or nationalistic aspect attached to it that there must be some credibility to their views.

If your first sentence just said "extremists" it would be dead-on.


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Re: Kaveh Nouraee

by The REAL soumynonA (not verified) on

My first sentence:

"It seems that as Jewish extremists gain more power worldwide, they get more careless, arrogant and stupid."

It didn't say "Jews", it says "Jewish extremists".

Do you believe that all Jews are extremists?


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do not fight over who is patriotic who is not

by shghayegh (not verified) on

Hi,please unit instead of fight ta yek crazy woman mesle in fahesheh siasi intor rahat dar bareh Iran &Iranian tasmim nagireh.
drood bar hamegi


Kaveh Nouraee

This Uncle Napolean game is getting old

by Kaveh Nouraee on

So are your posts.


Monda

Niloufar & Capt_

by Monda on

Thanks for the links, you saved me time. I'm sending 'em around


Davood_Banayan

AIPAC and Seperating Iran into many pieces

by Davood_Banayan on

Americans for a Democratic Republic in Iran.

Alam wrote about this stuff.

More about Alam:

//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/arts/story/2004/04/04...

 

Back in the 1970s there was an Iranian TV show named "Uncle Napoleon".  The guy in the TV show, Uncle Napoleon believed that the British and Russians are trying to divide Iran.  In the TV series every other character knew that Uncle Napoleon was crazy.

This Uncle Napolean game is getting old.

Ms. Jane Harman is a representative of California.  I also understand that she is the child of Holocaust survivors.  That is a sad thing.

6 million Jewish people died at the hands of the Nazis during World War 2.  That is a fact I agree with.  Even 1 innocent Jewish person should not have died at the hands of the Nazis.

That being said, I don't believe that Ms. Harmon should interfere in the internal problems of Iran.  The Algiers accord that settled the Iranian Hostage Crisis, the 444 days fiasco states that America will not interfere with the internal problems of Iran.

the only organizations that can lecture Iran's internal problems is the United Nation, the Red Cross, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.  It is high time that everyone understand that vital fact.

NIAC and CAIR can also help.

This is what this fine American, Jane Harman does not understand.

God bless her and God bless America.

 


choghok

Ostaad tough question, this is my analysis

by choghok on

I am not a political analyser but I would guess Israel is there because of

1. Oil & business: Iraqi Kordestan sits on quiet big oil reserves, today they earn a lot of money and the area is booming fast. I read recently that Israel is for example big exporter of alcoholic beverages to the the area and much of these goods are smuggled finally into Iran.

2. Muslim allies: Before Iranian revolution Israel had two powerful muslim allies, Turkey and Iran. Iran did a 180 degrees turn and now is Israeli enemy number 1. Turkey has also not so warm feelings for Israel since the AKP came into power there. So Israel looks very much for new allies within the area and has found them in Kurds and Azarbaijan.

To answer your question on what the Iraqi Kords have to win from this is well first and formost is business, then it is a way for them to become independent from Iran and rest of Iraq and Turkey, both symbolic and also in practice since Israel and USA could very well take care of all their needs from food to medicine to weapons.

/Bidar bash ke ma bekhabim


Kaveh Nouraee

The REAL soumynonA

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Yes, exactly.

However, the first sentence in your original post contradicts that.


Niloufar Parsi

Our money should Not support zionism!

by Niloufar Parsi on

Please join the boycott of Israel. very many of your household items are made by companies that directly support zionism. Most of the information you need is given in this blog. It was written not long ago when Israel was bombing women and children right in front of our very eyes. 

Peace


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Re: Kaveh Nouraee

by The REAL soumynonA (not verified) on

Her arrogance and stupidity is a personal trait to her, not because she is Jewish.


capt_ayhab

boycott these products

by capt_ayhab on

The bar code of Israeli products start with 729

//www.mylinkspage.com/israel.html

 

-YT

 


Ostaad

choghok, question for you

by Ostaad on

What, in your opinion, are the reasons behind Israel's "strong presence" in Iraqi Kordestan? I'm a bit perplexed, because I really can't see any solid cultural, religious, economic and strategic reasons why this is the case. I firmly believe this unholy and bizarre alliance will not serve the Kords' long term interests. What do you think?

PS, I have read your previous post about why Israel wants to penetrate the Kordish politics. I think what I'm asking is why are they successful, if at all? Why is the Iraqi Kordish political establishment susceptible to Israeli infilteration and influence?  In other words, what are the Iraqi Kords getting in return, other than attracting the wrath of some big neighbor, and reflecting negatively on all Kords? For example, what do the Iraqi Kords think will happen if they allow over-flight rights to the IAF to attack Iran?

I think I know Kordish politics as the result of years of following their politics althought I have never lived in Kordestan, neither Iran nor Iraq. That's why I have a nagging suspicions Israel is inflating its "influence" in the Iraqi Kordestan for political reasons.


Ostaad

Niloofar and Doostan-e zed-e Sayhounist

by Ostaad on

There are a couple of US companies that we should start boycotting for having operations in Israel. Here are a couple:

  1. Don't buy any computer with an "Intel Inside" sticker, buy computers that use AMD Central Processing Units (CPU).

    Reason, Intel has big fab and R&D in Israel.

  1. Don't buy HP printers, instead buy Cannon, Panasonic, Brother, etc.

    Reason, HP has major fab operations in Israel. 

There are many other US companies with major investments and operations in Israel, but this is a good starter.


Farhad Kashani

This is the result of

by Farhad Kashani on

This is the result of "Doshman Tarashi", IRI's best skill.

When you ask for the annahilation of a country, they will ask for you to be devided. When you threaten them everyday that "We will eventually destroy Israel", they will try to attack you first before that happens.

At least they're not calling for the annahilation of Iran, we're lucky! The IRI has called for the annahilation of Israel.


Monda

I never voted for this person

by Monda on

zer e ziadi mizaneh...I sent her 2 messages from 2 different computers, delam khonak shod.

I love Niloufar's suggestion! 


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Hala shod:)

by KouroshS on

Man. I was beginning think that you were undergoing a political trasnformation based on reading Mr, mosavi's message .

Enjoy the double ketel and tonic and pray for the world peace:)


Kaveh Nouraee

Sheeshaki

by Kaveh Nouraee on

My mistake, my typo, my fault.

Her arrogance and stupidity has nothing to do with her being Jewish.

Thank you for pointing that out. I should have done a better job of proofreading.

No margaritas at lunch but a double Ketel One and tonic sounds very good right about now. :-)


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KAveh

by KouroshS on

You have spent a lifetime on this website bashing and accusing everyone of using the term "jewish" in a deragatory sense, yet you attribute her stupidity and arrogance to her jewishness?
Did you have a margarrite with lunch today?:)


anonymous fish

i beg your pardon?

by anonymous fish on

exactly where have i labeled you anything or called you names?


Niloufar Parsi

Doostan

by Niloufar Parsi on

i strongly believe that every one of us can be a part of a concrete push for defeating zionism through boycotting certain products. petitions are all good, but they don't win you the war, just battles. boycotts are totally peaceful yet effective, especially when they are already down. it is a good time to strike. it just takes a change in shopping habits.

Peace


khaleh mosheh

Lady Harman

by khaleh mosheh on

'All The Perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand.'


capt_ayhab

Fishie

by capt_ayhab on

I see you were real quick in labeling me and calling me names. Much obliged dear lady.

Have a wonderful day.

-YT


Kaveh Nouraee

The REAL soumynonA

by Kaveh Nouraee on

This woman's arrogance and stupidity to do with her being Jewish.

And I wouldn't go so far as to call her a political leader, either. That is giving her way too much credit.

She is merely another one of those elitists who see themselves as the barometer of right and wrong, expecting everyone to abide by a set of rules from which she believes she is immune.

She and those of her ilk can only be dealt with at the polls. When she is up for re-election....fire her.


choghok

Look at my former post!

by choghok on

Israel is trying very much to divide different ethnicities in Iran today. Their presence in Iraqi Kordestan and republic of Azarbaijan is not because of nothing else than to destabilize Iran. Even in other countries they have hands in organizing events with different ethnicities of Iran.

For example they try very hard to come in contact with Kurdish organizations and to blow life into their separatism feelings.

/Bidar bash ke ma bekhabim


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Should we thank this Congresswoman for sincerety?

by The REAL soumynonA (not verified) on

It seems that as Jewish extremists gain more power worldwide, they get more careless, arrogant and stupid.

This American political leader is just the tip of the iceberg! There will be far more devious plans for Iran, Iranian culture, identity and Iranian people that will not even be mentioned by mouth. We can actually thank this person for showing us the exposed tip of the iceberg.

If you are Iranian and you oppose them, they call you pro-IRI, Lefty or other non-sense. If you are a Westerner and you oppose them, they call you an anti-semite or some other garbage name. If you are a Moslem, then you will be an Islamist and anti-west. They sure got it covered pretty good! If you oppose them, then it is you who is bad, not them!