Pictory

Freedom5=Vatanforoush+liar

You are pure Jebrooni. Since when you start caring about Iranian and Iran. You make me laugh. You must be one of these American punks who are definitely on Islamic Republic pay roll

There is a battle going on in Iranian.com.

It is an ancient battle.  A battle between the forces of Ahura Mazda versus the forces of Ahriman.  Freedom5, at this present moment you might be thinking what does this Japanese car company Mazda have to do with anything.  You are so ignorant.  You are fighting as a soldier for the Ahriman side.  You shall lose.

Freedom5, you are the one who is a tool for the Islamic Republic of Iran.  I highly doubt that you get paid by them.  Your services aren't worth 1 cent. 

In the end you shall lose.

American Dream = Vatanforoush+ liar

You are pure Jebrooni. Since when you start caring about Iranian and Iran. You make me laugh. You must be one of these American punks who are definitely on Islamic Republic pay roll

Freedom5

My post deals with the safety of Iranian protesters.  I would not want them to be in a dangerous situation.

You on the other hand are just plain ignorant.

If anyone is an IRR agent it is you who want protesters and opposition people to be attacked, killed and put in jail so that the IRR will have a longer life span.  You are pure evil freedom5.  Get a life you loser.

American Dream = Islamic Republic Agent

No comment. See American Dream comment about the people up-rising in IRAN.

   These protests are just plain bogus

by American Dream on Wed Nov 18, 2009 07:44 AM PST

These protests are just plain bogus.  The protests won't change anything.  All the protests will do is damage people's cars.

The word used in the tape "epicerie" translates into

grocery store, maybe a baghali in Farsi, It doesn't say if there was a bakery tranlated as nanvaii in town.  Just so that I would not be misleading.

Mehrban and Emil are right the Pahlavis were a disaster for Iran

I agree with Mehrban and Emil.

Emil:

"Freedom 5 Keep it short and to the point your comments are too long no body bothers to read it, you are talking to yourself and voices in you head (schizophrenic)..."

I agree with you.  The guy is very unstable.  Freedom5 is "paak devooneh".  Freedom5 probably can't even read the Persian language.

"Why so many Iranians hated this family (Pahlavi) so much that they kicked them out of Iran without even thinking what/who  would come next...?"

Absolutely true.  On January 16, 1979, 30 million Iranians kicked the Shah out of Iran.  In 1980, the Shah dropped dead in Egypt.

Mehrban:

"I believe, Ghormeh Sabzi is posting this tape purely as a piece of history.   In addition, his comment above the post "Look at the life of the locals" to me, communicates his awareness of the abyss between the different realities (lives) shown on this tape."

Absolutely true.  The Pahlavi dynasty neglected the poor.  In 1979, 30 million Iranians kicked the Shah out of Iran for good.

"I don't know if you speak French but "people like you" should listen to this tape, even the French were mocking the shinanigans in Kish by saying there was not a pharmacy or a bakery (I assume for the locals) on that freaking Island."

No pharmacy or bakery?  What was that punk called the Shah thinking?  The Shah was such an idiot.

The last years of the Pahlavi era was infested with corruption and mismanagement. 

"The proceeds of deals that were allocated for the most part to foreign entities that played the game, were stolen by a small minority and to ensure such activities could continue, the most unqualified but seemingly loyal personnel (of course not all) was put in charge.  The country had lost its trust in its government and rightfully so."

Absolutely true.  The Shah was a complete idiot.  There was theft of governmental funds right and left.

Let us now deal with the following:

Freedom5

Freedom5's comments are just absurd.  Just read:

There are so many factors that made us ( IRANIAN ) a victim of the 1979 conspiracy.

There was no conspiracy, that is all in your head.  You freedom5 are a complete idiot.  In 1979, 30 million Iranians kicked the Shah out of Iran.  Get that through your head!

 I am certainly agree that there were a bunch of corrupt people were in key position that plunder the wealth but at least the college and universities were free.

Tehran University and many other Universities in Iran are free today.  What do you mean by such an ignorant statement? 

 I am still paying for my government loan for my school here.

Where did you go to school?  What did you study?  Why did you have to take out a loan?  You don't seem educated.  By your own words you were not even born 30 years ago:

" I was not even born 30 years ago but I took the time and read history book and here is what I believe."

What you believe is absolutely wrong.  100% wrong!  You don't even know what life was like during the Pahlavi dynasty.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  Go pay your student loans.  Get a job you bum.

so far

Mehrban gets 10 points in dialogue

Farah Rusta, Freedom_5 and MRX1 can manage a 2 or 3 if even that.

LOL

Mehrban Jan, Dorood Bekaran

I disagree with all your points except the last one “It is just that what came after was a bigger disaster’.  I have to admit that you certainly have passion for IRANIAN and IRAN and you have my respect, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I believe that IRAN moved fast during the Pahlavi’s dynasty and what the Pahlavi dynasty had stand for which is prosperous IRAN angered a few countries including superpowers ( The us and Soviet Union ) which paved the way for wicked revolution 1979.Pahlavi dynasty is a victim of its own extravagant ambitions and high flying dream for greater IRAN which made so many enemies inside and outside IRAN. There are so many factors that made us ( IRANIAN ) a victim of the 1979 conspiracy. Here are a few reasons that we are where we are now in history ……   IRAN and IRAQ war, Afghanistan war, Soviet break down ( What would happen if there was a powerful IRAN in the region ) all those break away soviet stats that had previously belong to IRAN would be attempted to re-join the main land… such as Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan……, Iraq and Kuwait war, Atomic IRAN ( Iran had plan to build 8 nuclear reactor 30 years ago)…. I certainly agree that there were a bunch of corrupt people were in key position that plunder the wealth but at least the college and universities were free and even the poor could attend something that you don’t even see in the western society. I am still paying for my government loan for my school here. 30 year a go we could not simply make every body happy if they only had another few years ….. I wonder. It is all like a dream and now turns in to a nightmare... Shad Zee 

thank u

thanks for posting this. So amazing to see all those naked people on the beach! ha ha ha

Mehraban, once again I am asking

what is the plan? how would  you create jobs? how do you get buisness's to
invest in a place like  Iran? what is your strategy? how do you obtain foreign currency? how do you imporve
life of  poor people? 

forget about my tone, condesending or not, by gone era, blah,blah. you say follies of pahlavi era, fine you are entitled to your oponion but then again you don't seem to have any solutions? or am I missing some thing......

Freedom 5

As you well know, this is a long topic and there are hundereds of books on the subject of economic development.   My short answer for the purposes of this thread would be, that the procceds from the sale of oil which was/is Iran's only income then and now must be reinvested in the country for education, infrastructure, housing, etc, etc like any other decent democratic country.Of course to set up a sound economic program there would be a need for deep delibrations by panels of experts which Farah Pahlavi was not and Farah Rusta finds amusing.   The last years of the Pahlavi era was infested with corruption and mismanagement. 

The proceeds of deals that were allocated for the most part to foreign entities that played the game, were stolen by a small minority and to ensure such activities could continue, the most unqualified but seemingly loyal personnel (of course not all) was put in charge.  The country had lost its trust in its government and rightfully so.  It is just that what came after was a bigger disaster.

You are missing the point !!

Dear majesty and educated Mehrban, so you know French ... well-done. MRX1 had good question and you are missing the point. Poor people are every where here in the us , Canada.. all western countries.. what is your plan... communist... that did not work either.Your thoughts.....

Farah joon (rusta), I know

why am I not surprised that you find an Iranian thinking, amusing.   Iranians should never think for themselves but be dictated to. Isn't that right?

MRX1,

I am not sure what you mean by "people like you".  You see your condecending tone that has stayed with you from the by gone era was the seed of the anger of the 1979 uprising.   You and your ignorant cohords looked down on the people of Iran.  You should be so lucky that an Iranian like me (hard working, honest and full of love for her country) has even bothered with you.  I don't know if you speak French but "people like you" should listen to this tape, even the French were mocking the shinanigans in Kish by saying there was not a pharmacy or a bakery (I assume for the locals) on that freaking Island.   Mr MRX1, you don't know me, if you did you may be surprized. 

"what the hell were they thinking? "

They were thinking far ahead of their times BUT they missed what laid ahead of their feet. I never dispute that. But your deep deliberations are a source of great amusement Merban!

I am no great fan of Farah Diba and my critique of her is well documented on this site but progress comes at a price. Sadly the short-sighted couldn't see it and three decades later and despite years of western exposure they insist on being short-sighted. 

FR

Mehraban, so what would you do?

I am curious to know, how would people like you create jobs? how do you get buisness's to invest in a place like  Iran? what is your strategy?how do you imporve life of  poor people? 

you have thirty years of more knouledge than any body had in 79, what would you do?

your statement in here "

may be kish would have become play ground for the rich with the Iranian poor to serve them.  Shame!"

cleary signifies the problem in Iranian psychee, a nation whose  people are lazy, and consider just about any work beneath them. Well with this kind of atitude I say shah of Iran was way too good for the country, good that he is gone!

I repeat

Dear Emilo, may be my comment is too long for you but compare to a book , my one or two  paragraph is trivial. Now I can see why you have made those comments. Here is a short one for you "Read book my friend".

Moftaki

I believe, Ghormeh Sabzi is posting this tape purely as a piece of history.   In addition, his comment above the post "Look at the life of the locals" to me, communicates his awareness of the abyss between the different realities (lives) shown on this tape.

Farah Rusta...Freedom5...

Dear Farah Rusta, thank you for your kind wake up call... I would wake up if you get me a cappuccino...lol

Freedom 5 Keep it short and to the point your comments are too long no body bothers to read it, you are talking to yourself and voices in you head (schizophrenic)...

Cheap comment dude

 Moftaki, your comment is cheap and very shortsighted. Good imagination though.....You make me laugh

EMILO.. are u for real

Do you even read.... you keep repeating yourself.... Listen dude history has and will judge our past as they did you are the one who stick in the past. People in Iran are paying th price  for those people who made the mistake 30 years ago. I was not even born 30 years ago but I took the time and read history book and here is what I believe.You are simply throwing a question that needs days and days to answer. I would strongly suggest that you do some reading before posting comment.

Disillusioned...

To the disillusioned who are still stuck in Pahlavi's era, my question to you;

Why so many Iranians hated this family (Pahlavi) so much that they kicked them out of Iran without even thinking what/who  would come next...? 

Ghormeh Sabzi Gham Makhor...

Just imagine for a minute if there was no revolution in 1979. You could have gotten a job on Kish Island cleaning the toilets or working as a female croupier for the rich Arab sheikhs...... (if you are not female they would not mind)

But alas now you only know how to browse the internet and find stuff to feed for JJs website. What a worthy job! 

Look who is commenting now...what a shame

American Dream who's purpose on this site is crystal clear to everyone now is supporting some of the misled fellow Iranian. He who is not even IRANIAN and true supporter of Islamic Republic is calling some of the below commentator Iranian Freedom Fighter.WHAT A LAUGH.I will let you read some of American Dream's comment and judge for yourself.

 by American Dream on Fri Nov 13, 2009 06:16 PM PST

You don't know anything about the Kurds.

The Kurds want an independant Kurdistan.  They have been fighting the Iranian central government for over 100 years.  One day they shall be free and they will break away from Iran once and for all.

As for the Baluchis, they too will get their independence.  They will break away from the Iranian central government and create greater Buluchistan.

And the great freedom loving Iranians of Khuzistan, The tomb Islands, Kish Island and Abu Musa Island will also break away and create Arabistan.  These people will all be free.

If you don't like the West or America go back to Iran freedom5.  No one is forcing you to stay here.  Stop using the english language to post stuff on this site.

freedom5, you are one sorry bad-bakht bee-char-eh who just happens to post on this site.

Here is another comment by AMERICAN DREAM about IRANIAN...

 I believe as an American, the best form of government in Iran is a democratic republic like the United States.  What types of social freedoms should a democratic republic of Iran have?  The same freedoms we see in Amsterdam. I know a lot of Iranians who are predominantly Shia Muslims and they drink like fish.  They drink so much alcohol.  And a lot of them smoke that opium stuff.  Many of the men are womanizers and their wives also carry on adulterous relationships.  unquote and here is American dreams final touch and his mighty opinion in regards to Mullah's rule in IRAN. You will be the judge. quote from American Dream Do I see the theocracy going away in Iran? No.  It will evolve with time.  The more pressure by Iranians the more the theocracy will change so they can stay in power.  The Iranian theocracy is willing to make pork and alcohol "Halal" if they can stay in power.  God knows the Revolutionary Guards help introduce satellite dishes into Iran and take in money for it. That being said, things will take time to change

Mehrban, Emil and Farah Rusta are Iranian Freedom Fighters

Mehrban, Emil and Farah Rusta are Iranian Freedom Fighters.  There points of view are important dialog about true Iranian history.  True Iranis believe in freedom of speech and expression. 

One must ask, if the crazy Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was so good then why did he hand over the country to Ayat'Allah Ruh'Allah Moosavi Khomayni in January 1979?  The Shah knew that Bakhtiyar was unfit to lead.  Even the Iranian Army and Imperial guards laughed at Bakhtiyar in 1979 and turned to Ayat'Allah Ruh'Allah Moosavi Khomayni for leadership.  Why the the crazy Shah permit the Revolution's occurrence on February 11, 1979?

Why was the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi such a coward that he fled from Iran in January 1979 and dropped dead of cancer in Egypt in 1980?

If you can not answer these questions objectively then you are not looking at Irani history objectively.

To those who attack Mehrban, Emil and Farrah Rusta I say to you, if you don't like freedom of speech and expression then you are not real Iranis. 

MRX1, yes, maybe Kish would be the playgound of the rich

with the Iranian poor to serve them.  Shame!

I am not interested in rehashing the past but it kills me when follies of the final years of the Pahlavi era is sold as progress.  

Ps.  He never was/is my Imam, please do not try to label me because I do not agree with you. 

One thing is for certain

If the islamo facist coup of 79 wouldn't have succeed,  by now Kish could have become a giant tourism magnet for millions of jet setters accross the globe, specialy the rich and affluent shieks who now gamble their money in London, Vegas and Montecarlo. They would have brought  their money to Iran! Another words Kish would have been what Duabi is today. Kish would have generated billions in currency for Iran and not to mention a great public relation of to attract more buisness and tourism as a result.

But as we discovered that economey is for donkey's (As your great imam said) and it's more important to spend billions in Gaza, syria, sudan and on defunct projects like building old soviet reactor in Iran, rest of it you can fill the blank....  

Certainly not as old as you

Insight?!!   Isn't that what happened?   Didn't the house of cards come tumbling down?  Was it the Americans? maybe partially.  But take a close look at this tape, what the hell were they thinking?  

"... of the debacle to come"!!!

Wonderful insight Merhrban! Thanks to your subtle insight we now know why the revlution took place. How old are you my dear?  

FR

Dear Freedom 5

This tape certainly depicts the Empress out of touch.