Iranian of the Day

AO: The dangrous part is

AO: The dangrous part is that they think they are militarily capable of winning a war against US using their supposed "Asymmetrical tactics" and "terrorism" and the damn military industrial complex operatives in the corporate media reinforce that notion--knowing full well that IRI war readiness is at a world war I level at be-- by hyping their militarism and whipping the right winger into a war frenzy.

Vildemose

The problem with this people is the never ending hypocrisy.  They constantly cheer on IRI's "growing power" in the region.  they also cheer its supposed [and fake] military power.  And when you remind them of their delusions, they call you anti-Iranian, Zionist, western etc. Then, in the next breath, they lament all other countries' military expansionism and influence in other countries.  This clearly shows that these people are not really anti-war or anti-imperialists.  They are anti-war and anti-imperialist when they are not the ones who are waging the war or being the imperialists.  

His speciality is Mathematics and Computer Science ...

Not Political Science Nor History ...

//www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ae/

Unlike This Fellow At Least Trita Parsi knows what he is talking about ...

AO: You nailed it. The IRI

AO: You nailed it. The IRI apologists have a delusional dream of grandeur of IRI's supermacy in the region while condemn others to want to be the same..

Meeghama Let's Send Potkin Azarmehr & Peyvand Khorsandi ;0)

To distrupt these Clowns debate ...

//iranian.com/main/2010/mar/potkin-azarmehr

Hee Hee

Just kidding ...

After all these debates are Not bad for educating Undergraduate CASMII members to critical thinking ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAw5PepmAp4&feature=related

LOL

Midwesty

Read my comment again.  I said that the IRI is similar to the Nazis "in terms of their isolation", that's all.  I do not believe that the IRI is similar to Nazi Germany in other ways, and actually wrote a blog about that.  Here it is:

 //iranian.com/main/blog/anonymous-observer/why-iri-nothing-nazi-germany

PS/ this whole idea about the IRI "not invading" anyone is a "naneh man gharibam" farce.  The IRI hasn't invaded anyone because unlike many delusional people on this site (who fantasize about an IRI being a super power) it knows that it cannot invade anyone because it has s**t for a military.  Let's not forget that in the early years following the devolution of 1979, the IRI was actively engaged in attempts to "export" its "great revolution" to the countries of the region--including Iraq.  If that's not a form of "invasion" and "colonialism", I don't know what its. 

IRR lovelies

From his perch in England a supporter of Islamist Rapists asks:

“But perhaps Fred should say what is the best definition for an individual who daily rants in defence of airtight sanctions that would destroy a helpless nation?  A 'patriot", is it?! “

Given in the warped world of IRR and its lovelies where everything has assumed the opposite of its normal definition, definitely not “A patriot”.

AO,

Comparing IRI to Nazi's is comparing an apple with an orange. Germany of WWII invaded almost the entire Europe, north of Africa, and part of South America and pacific Islands and allied with Japan killed millions of people.

I hope you are just joking comparing IRI to the Nazi's.

ghalam-doon jan

I just took time to watch this.  It addressed firstly the issue of demonisation which is used to dehumanise and prepare the public opinion for war.

Secondly, he spoke of two important events in the context of the region;Mongols invasion of Iran and the Holocaust.  I thought they were very relevant and original:  

He talk firstly, about the prevalent denigration of Islamic civilisation and its role in the emergence of renaissance, which is important from the point of view of the systematic colonial racism and demonisation of Muslims and Islam, to drive a cynical political agenda.

And Secondly, he addressed the particular context of the emotional qualities of the region where imperialist intervention, exploitation and wars are being waged.  That is, the  region's collective intergenerational trauma interacting with the collective trauma of the Jews incurred in the European Holocaust.  He talked about the concept of projection (projective identification) which are recognised and utilised routinely in psychoanalysis, critical sociology and politics today.  I disagree that it would wash over the heads of that audience or would sound irrelevant to them.  Quite the opposite, I thought, it would provide a perspective that might be new to them and can be subject of further thought and exploration.  

He talked about the imperialist interference in a region where two groups of deeply traumatised people are living side by side.  Of course, the traumatisation of the region and Iran is not limited to Mongol invasion.  Arab invasion was also a source of trauma itself, as was the colonisation by the British and the French.   

I however agree with you that it could have been shorter!  This belonged to over two years ago.  He mentioned Condi Rice.  But in relation to the current situation in Iran, I agree with you, but from a different perspective.  I think an organisation that campaigns against sanctions and war, must not (and cannot) discuss the internal politics of Iran.  Simply because, they will narrow their base of support due to the many divergent positions all of us who don't want sanctions and wars hold, and secondly because they use their own names and will be arrested!  Why then you and I don't use our real names even here when cursing the regime?!   

Yes, Midwesty, I wouldn't put it pass them

Look, we're dealing with a messianic ideology.  Add to that the fact that IRI goons really have no place to go if and when the regime falls.  Their only real allies are Syria and the Lebanese Hezbollah, and to get their, they have to travel over what, at that time, will be hostile territory.  So, yes, I wouldn't put it pass them to detonate a nuclear device in the middle of Tehran to: 1) take revenge from the Iranian people and 2) take everyone with them (including themselves) to the "other world".

You must consider two examples.  First, look at the characters involved in the IRI mafia.  Take Jannati for example.  He did a "nazr" for his own son to be caught and executed because he was anti-IRI (which he was-caught and executed).  Do you think that a psychopath like that will have mercy on the Iranian people?!!

Second, IRI's situation- in terms of their isolation--is similar to that of the Nazis.  They knew they had no place to go also and just like the IRI, they were messianic.  remember what they did to the German people?  They caused the destruction of the entire country, with hundreds of thousands of Germans dead, and then they committed suicide.  I bet you if they had a nuke, they would have detonate it in the middle of Berlin when the allies were approaching.

That's why you should expect the IRI to not hesitate for a second in using a nuclear device against the Iranian people.   

How come?

Can they use nukes against Iranians?

Midwesty

My concern is Iranian people. Once the IRI is a nuclear power they will even become bigger tyrant than what they are today.

cyclicforward jan,

"The problem is that once the IRI become a nuclear power things will go from bad to worst".

For whom, may I ask, things will get worse?

I respect his courage and passion

But unfortunately, he is not clarifying the central issue and that is who these “imperialist” are. : The Zionist Jews. They are the same criminal gangs who owned Bush and own US banking system and have already bankrupt America. And more to come >>>

//theeconomiccollapseblog.com/

THANK U and keep up the good work Goldmansaks

Fred says:

"Perhaps the pro-Islamist Rapist Republic CASMII lobbyist should define what is best way to define a regime which rapes, maims and murders Iranian men, women and children".

Perhaps he should!  Although that doesn't fall in the remit of their campaign which is opposing sanctions and war.

 But perhaps Fred should say what is the best definition for an individual who daily rants in defence of airtight sanctions that would destroy a helpless nation?  A 'patriot", is it?! 

Mongols are to blame

I was a supporter of CASMII and Mr. Edalat before the election in Iran. But right now I'm not sure I can support them. To me, he lets his anti-imperialist sentiments to get in the way and with all that shouting, he just becomes another loud mouth like Galloway. Granted we don't hear about the brutality of imperialists in the region, but talking about historical past and trying to make some connection between what Mongols did in the region and what is happening today does not sit well with the audience. The reality is that I.R. is not helping the situation either and that's what we've been witnessing today. Mr. Edalat can talk about imperialism all he wants but he can't just magnify the atrocities of one side and ignore the brutality of the other side.

This is what was said on their website right after the election:

//www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=nod...

I suggest you read the whole article to see where CASMII stands on the issue of past election in Iran and other issues.

I think Mr. Edalat or whoever is running CASMII should put out a statement and very clearly condemn what is happening in Iran today and not what happened a thousand years ago. If we want to open the file on the Mongol's invasion, then we should start talking about another invasion, yes the Arab one, since many Iranians blame that particular invasion for the ills in their county.

Midwesty

The problem is that once the IRI become a nuclear power things will go from bad to worst. You will never see the end to brutality and misery they can bring. I agree as well that military intervention is not a ideal choice but the alternatives are not much better.

Fred,

What you say has nothing to do with invading Iran based on violation of nuke treaties.

What part of this don't you undrestand?

What then?

The CASMII lobbyist who on a regular basis is interviewed by the Islamist Rapist Republic owned media in Iran in part says: “you have to demonize that regime …”

Perhaps the pro-Islamist Rapist Republic CASMII lobbyist should define what is best way to define a regime which rapes, maims and murders Iranian men, women and children.

... a shame

I supported this gentleman's sentiments whole-heartedly for a long time, but unfortunately after the aftermath of last year's election I became disillusioned and am indifferent on the issue at the moment.  It's a shame that the Iranian authorities chose to handle the post-election protests the way in which they did.   I still believe the substance of what Mr. Edalat is saying is true.  (It's not the place of the US/former colonial powers to give liberty to the Iranian people.... it's up to the Iranian people to take it for themselves)