(Reuters) – Iran unveiled a prototype long-range unmanned bomber on Sunday, the latest in a stream of announcements of new Iranian-made military hardware as tension mounts over its nuclear programme. On a stage in front of military officials, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pulled a sheet away from the aircraft, called the Karrar, which Iran says is its first long-range drone. With the United States and Israel saying they do not rule out a military strike to stop Iran getting a nuclear bomb, the Islamic Republic has showed off new mini-submarines, a surface-to-surface missile and announced plans to launch high altitude satellites over the next three years. The presentation of the drone came a day after Iranian and Russian technicians began fuelling Iran's first nuclear power station, something Israel called "totally unacceptable." >>>
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The only way to stop any
by Dariush A on Sun Aug 22, 2010 09:04 PM PDTThe only way to stop any enemy, is though the balance of power.
Ahmadinejad said it even better. DEFEND IRAN AGAINST ANY ATTACK. Ahsan, Ahsan.
Yes, Cho Iran nabashad taneh man mabaad.
Middle east needs peace - for n different Good reasons
by Mardom Mazloom on Sun Aug 22, 2010 08:55 PM PDTand more war materials in the hands of fanatics don't simply go on that way. You may like it or not but Israel is a major protagonist in the ME and she won't simply let Shepshu fighters, killing in the name of God, have the opportunity to put the region in blood and fire. That's why I really doubt that a Hezbollah air force would exist one day.
I don't think Sargord is a Iranian exile
by Escape on Sun Aug 22, 2010 07:00 PM PDTand I have held off on saying this because I do actually enjoy reading his comments for the entertainment value.But I really believe he works for the Iranian Revolutionary guard and sit's somewhere in Iran monitoring the web.
Flying Bomb
by Miko on Sun Aug 22, 2010 06:16 PM PDT//www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0EE5ZGKJyE
The Third Reich
by comrade on Sun Aug 22, 2010 06:07 PM PDT“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it,
people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained
only for such time as the State can shield the people from the
political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus
becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to
repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus
by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies."
Sargord Come on Admit It buddy!
by Khar on Sun Aug 22, 2010 06:00 PM PDTEven you must have noticed the resemblance to V-1 rocket built by NAZI Germany 70 years ago. :o) Which junk yard do they get their "latest technology" from?
By The way, you get exited and boast about all and any of the junk IRI has, even about the antique 40 years old Boeing 747 in Iranian Air fleet :o))
I am certainly with Fair on this one
by Bavafa on Sun Aug 22, 2010 06:15 PM PDTWhether they built it on their own, works 50/50, or they stole the design and not putting it together, it is nevertheless progress and it is good for Iranians. Lets hope meanwhile Iranians also make some progress in human rights issues.
Mehrdad
"Sargord"
by AMIR1973 on Sun Aug 22, 2010 05:48 PM PDTYour question revolved around "doubt" regarding Iranian built weapons systems, derived from my reference of a possible application for Hezbollah.
So now you're gonna tell my what my question "revolved around"? Once you're a liar, you're always a liar. If not, then I understand- all you have to contribute to the discussion is your usual tantrum, the product of you and your family's decision to cut and run from Iran. And where are you living, Phony Sargord? Come on now, it's not the IRI. Nice try, though. Cheers :-)It's not unconventional
by Sargord Pirouz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 05:33 PM PDTIt's not unconventional looking at all. In many ways, it resembles the South African Skua target drone, in others the Tomahawk LACM.
Have to say it again, when it comes to the Islamic Republic of Iran, sanctions have unintended consequences. Iran's aerospace program is a case in point. So is it's nuclear program.
This thing looks like they
by vildemose on Sun Aug 22, 2010 05:19 PM PDTThis thing looks like they bought it from an old Army Navy Store and it was a sewage treatment machine used it WWII....these goofs...are beyond silly....and they want people to take them as ligit....agh..
another worthless, only for show equipment
by mahmoudg on Sun Aug 22, 2010 05:08 PM PDTBuilt on a two stroke VW engine which will sputter before it leaves its launching pad. Nothing to be proud of when the economy is faltering. The worst economic record in the world. We are second only to North Korea. When we can feed our own popultion and not have to import food from outside is when we can be proud. The shah tried 30 years ago to bring about these types of home grown industries and these same goons made fun of him. Now after 30 years they are following his exact foot steps, with the difference that the Shah's economic might and success was a 1000 times better thant these Islamist Rapists. These Rapists cannot fool anyone other than their own blind supporters, who will be dealt with by surgical attacks.
تبدیل ایران به ابر قدرت جهانی فقط در دوهفته
KharSun Aug 22, 2010 04:54 PM PDT
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyRl8vpbQt0
Nothing strikes fear into
by vildemose on Sun Aug 22, 2010 04:49 PM PDTNothing strikes fear into the hearts of one's enemies like a watercolor painting of something you claim to have.
Amir, you're venting again.
by Sargord Pirouz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 03:21 PM PDTAmir, you're venting again. The topic of this thread is military and technical. It isn't political.
Your question revolved around "doubt" regarding Iranian built weapons systems, derived from my reference of a possible application for Hezbollah.
Do you have anything relevant to contribute beyond the usual ranting of "31 years" and "regime" this and "regime" that?
If not, then I understand- all you have to contribute to the discussion is your usual tantrum, the product of you and your family's decision to cut and run from Iran. We get it, Amir. Your only reason for commenting here is to malign the country for which at one time in your life you belonged. Now you don't. So that doesn't mean you have to make a spectacle of yourself on every thread here at IC. Show a little respect for yourself. As you are now, you're an embarrassment.
"Sargord"
by AMIR1973 on Sun Aug 22, 2010 03:07 PM PDTGiven the IRI's 31-year history of fabrication, deceit, and exaggeration in every conceivable way, would you like to share with us the reasons for your lack of doubt?
I'm talking about a 31-year regime that started with Khomeini's lies in Paris: 1) the clergy will not rule; 2) women and men will have equal rights under the law; 3) democracy would be established in Iran; 4) there would be free utilities, bus fare, etc under the IRI
And to this day, we have Photoshop-enhanced missile launches and the Saeqeh advanced fighter plane. And you're talking about what some missile did to a ship of Israel, a nation with one-tenth IRI's population (and a long history of routing and decimating Arab states' armies--something IRI was not even remotely able to achieve)? Are you deliberately trying to make yourself look silly and pathetic or does it just come naturally to you?
Cheers :-)
Faramarz, you're funny. :) I
by Sargord Pirouz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:59 PM PDTFaramarz, you're funny. :)
I voted Green in the 2009 election. But I accept the election results, and I accept Iran for what it is, politically and socially. That is to say, I'm a realist.
Certainly. Amir. Simply
by Sargord Pirouz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:56 PM PDTCertainly. Amir.
Simply recall the successful fielding of the Kowsar (C-701 type) AShM during the 33-Day War.
Of course, there were doubters like yourself, some of them in the IDF, that thought the Iranian AShMs were a joke, and it never occurred to them that Iranian technicians could establish a reliable radar network along the Lebanese coastline. So it came as a shock the INS Hanit was knocked out of action by such.
There are some technical questions regarding a Karrar type UCAV being successfully applied in a tactical role, but in other types of bomber roles, it could represent the building block for the Hezbollah Air Force. You have to start somewhere, and these planes are cheap and don't require a prepared airfield.
There is Hope for Sargord!
by Faramarz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:54 PM PDTSargord Bro,
Thanks for finding the Thunderbird stuff funny. I’ll tell Maz Jobrani to include it in his new material. Maybe his comedy would be more appealing to you then!
I have always thought that there is hope for you. If you just stop drinking that Pasdar cool aid!
The progressive Iranian community is ready to embrace you back into our fold. We can even have a 12-step program for you guys. I hereby ask all my Aragh Khor Iranian compatriot to come forward and help me design a 12-step program to bring our brothers and sisters back into the fold!
You could be on your way back to the redemption, Glory Hallelujah Sargord!
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=amznbi0lFaU
Human Rights and Democracy Anyone!!! Anyone...???
by Khar on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:51 PM PDTAre we making progress in those fields? Toop, Tank, Mooshak, Bomb e Atom are built to protect the Repression in this case Religious Estebdaad (Iranian Neo-Cons)!!!
"Sargord"
by AMIR1973 on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:44 PM PDTGiven the IRI's 31-year history of fabrication, deceit, and exaggeration in every conceivable way, would you like to share with us the reasons for your lack of doubt?
هزار آفرین
MehmanSun Aug 22, 2010 02:38 PM PDT
درود بر جوانان ایرانی. به امید پیشرفتهای بیشتر در زمینه های دفاعی و صنعتی.
Well, would you like to
by Sargord Pirouz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:32 PM PDTWell, would you like to share with us the reasons for your doubt?
it could provide the makings of a Hezbollah Air Force...dream on
by Mardom Mazloom on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:14 PM PDTچو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد
The Thunderbirds comparison
by Sargord Pirouz on Sun Aug 22, 2010 02:11 PM PDTThe Thunderbirds comparison is a crack up. (I used to watch that show as a kid.) The thing is, the Thunderbirds used manned (puppeted) vehicles, this Iranian weapon system is a UCAV.
This UCAV is interesting for many reasons, in terms of what it can possibly be developed into. For one, it could represent one step toward a land-attack Cruise Missile. Also, it could provide the makings of a Hezbollah Air Force.
Fair jan,
by Mardom Mazloom on Sun Aug 22, 2010 01:44 PM PDTIt's not easy to make the difference between what our youths do for the development of Iran and what this anti-iranian regime (with all the harm it causes to our people) claims as its own success. But you are able to do this distinction and it's really heart warming to see that true patriots of "nab Koursh" are still among us.
Mokhlessam!
Dentists drill or the thrill of KARRAR news
by Amir Normandi on Sun Aug 22, 2010 01:06 PM PDTWhen this FOX KARRAR news segment came out first I was num with Novocain and my dentist was drilling my mauler prepping it for a crown.
This is probably the same feelling many Iranians have, to be num for the similarity of the path Iraq went through before being attacked! Saddam used bluff tactic to get the west attack IRAQ and IRI is provoking them. What is the wisdom of it, that Iran with its prototype samples shall obliterate the enemy and teach them a lesson? and have few million new shaheeds added to their old lists.
Why such disregard for the nation, why not put this as a referandum and ask the nation if they wast such thing?
Amir Normandi
Good Job to our experts
by Fair on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:59 PM PDTKhasteh nabashid bacheha. Not that I believe all the claims of IR state media, but even with a much smaller range and with what I see in the video, even if this is just assembled from imported components (which I am not saying it is), it is a great accomplishment given the limitations on the conditions that our bacheha have to work.
Finally...
by benross on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:50 PM PDTIranian people can become as happy as North Korean people.
BBC Persian has a good report on this.
"FARRAR" ARE GO
by Demo on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:44 PM PDTThe "Thunderbirds" cartoon tells all about "KARRAR:" A "FARRAR" (escape) from the comic "Self" fearfulness to the cosmic!
Our "cosmic" turns "comic" if its "S" (for Self) is taken out!!
Where are the wheels?
by Onlyiran on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:36 PM PDTIsn't this thing supposed to launch its rockets and land again? Where are the wheels? It looks like another cruise type rocket that will slam itself into the target and blow up...kind of like IRI trained Basijis, Lebanese Hezbollahs, etc...