شائول موفاز، سیاستمدار اسرائیلی متولد تهران، خواستار اتحاد جهان عرب با اسرائیل علیه ایران شده است. آقای موفاز که در دورهای رئیس ستاد ارتش اسرائیل و زمانی وزیر دفاع این کشوربوده، به عنوان رئیس کمیته روابط خارجی و دفاع مجلس اسرائیل انتخاب شده است. محمد منظرپور در مصاحبه با آقای موفاز پرسیده چرا او خواهان اتحاد جهان عرب و اسرائیل علیه ایران شده است؟
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Tabriz: I see no need for prioritisation
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Fri Dec 10, 2010 03:16 PM PSTAs I tend to sh*t and pi*s at the same time!
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Simorgh Jan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Dec 10, 2010 03:09 PM PSTThink of it. The guardians of Mecca, the Kaabe and Medina will want to launch a missile against your country!
I am afraid you give Mola too much credit by implying Iran is his nation. It is not. Mola and his kind have no love for Iran and do not consider themselves Iranian. Their loyalty is to Felesteen and Hizbollah. So they are being very consistent.
don't you guys worry,,,
by tabriz_balasi on Fri Dec 10, 2010 03:08 PM PSTFrom listening to Shaul Mofaz now it is more clear that they can't do shit. what a laughable allience, sunni-muslims and jews against shia-muslims.
simorgh5555, there are many arabs that are our brothers, they support Iran and consider iran a muslim country. just like they consider the turks as their borther. there are other arabs, which are pan-arabist or sunni-extremists that hate iranians. so they are two groups, you can't just group everyone together and hate them. your hate should be discrete and thoughtful. hate is not good, but atleast don't hate people that support us. Muhammad was an arab that said no race is better than the other. during the iran-iraq war lots of muslims died fighting with arabs, go talk to them if you have problem with being a muslim and fighting for Iran agaist arabs. Islam has little to do with arabs, soon after Muhammad's death, arabs turned back to their jahellia days. look at arab countries and see how pathetic they are. arabs that are true muslims will not accept harm to Iran, believe me.
Mola, actually you should answer the point you raised about iranian scientists. why has Iran shut-up about it? are they scared? i think they should do something about this terror act, they should respond by killing Shaul Mofaz; what is wrong with that? and actualy, they should find someone else and kill him too, so that it's eye for an eye. but again Khamenie and the gang are good killers of their own citizens. they wouldn't do anything out of principle, they do things to keep themselves in power. why are you supporting these chicken shit rapists liers lowlife ahmadinejad type humanbeings, i don't understand. they have no respect for iranian blood. believe me if these two scientists were palestinians they would make a big noise about it... IR is just a pathetic two-faced sad gang; what ever they say and do is to gain more power!!!
be an act at all times in the name of Allah.
S5555, Technique # 2 is distraction Straight from the
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Dec 10, 2010 03:08 PM PSThandbook for Zionist activists such as yours.
Enslaving a whole nation, destroying their homes, beating, imprisoning and killing the natives while the whole world is watching in occupied Palestine.
This war criminal Israeli general who is afraid to travel the freely in Europe is trying to unit the Arabs in a single front to attack and ivade Iran, much like what Saddam did.
S5555, we the Persians/Iranians are an ancient wise people. Zionists like you maybe ancient but but are not wise. The world is watching your crimes in the Middle East with horror and hatred.
Simorgh
by delavar on Fri Dec 10, 2010 03:01 PM PSTYou said "Israel had no part to play in the corrupt devil's pact of Britan and America in brining Khomeini to overthrow the Shah"
Then why Israel was the only country in the beggining of Iran/Iraq war supplying the Islamic Regime in Iran with conventional weapons? They even attacked Iraq at least once during Iran/Iraq war. Israel and Khomeni obviously shared some common interest.
Mola - terrorist tactic#2 distraction
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Dec 10, 2010 02:27 PM PSTHey, no need to take out your betrayal of your Arab brothers on me. Answer the question.
Many members of the Saudi Royal family are descedents of the prophet Mohammed. They come from the same city, the same clan and speak the language of the Koran: Arabic.
Think of it. The guardians of Mecca, the Kaabe and Medina will want to launch a missile against your country!
Will you retaliate against Meccca?
S5555, technique #1 demonizing does not work any more
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Dec 10, 2010 02:02 PM PSTto you guys the Zionist groupies on this website, it's a game.
for us is a matter of war or peace. Eight students from one California high school have died in 2 wars.
California high school mourns 8 war deaths.CLOVIS, Calif. – It has become a never-ending heartache within the hallways of Buchanan High School: news that another former student has died in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Eight former students have been killed in the two wars, including a Marine sergeant who will be laid to rest Saturday after dying Dec. 2 of a head wound in Afghanistan.
We don't want this senario to be repeated unlike your bosses in Tel Aviv. This is the reason why S5555,
Mola
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:48 PM PSTYou poor soul! Have you recovered from your betrayal by your Arab brothers? The family of Saud, the descendents of the Pophet Mohammed, the clan of the prophet Mohammed, Hossein and Ali all want to cut off the head of Ahmadeinejad and attack Iran.
You must be so gutted. Here is a big Akkkkheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey for you!.
P.S. Serious question. If Saudi Arabia were to attack Iran would you consider bombing of Mecca to be legitimate?
A.I.F, and
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:46 PM PSTyou are their helper.
you are like Santa's helper expediting it. Bringing destructions to Iranians' civil society.
you are intellectually challenged or maybe you're on a mission.
Mofaz is utterly and completely stupid!
by Immortal Guard on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:39 PM PSTWhat a shame that this moron came from Iran!
He is too stupid to realize that at the end of the day whether Shi'ite or Sunni they are all Muslims and the Sunnis have far far far more in common with Shi'ites than with any Jew. Plus the Palestinians are majority Sunni Muslims as well!
So far he has pleased only his mother!
Immortal Guard
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:23 PM PSTBy confronting the Islamic Republic Mofaz is foing the greatest good for Iran.
The Islamic Republic
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:34 PM PSTThe Islamic Republic remains a threat to the region and more importantly a terror threat to her own people.
Israel had no part to play in the corrupt devil's pact of Britan and America in brining Khomeini to overthrow the Shah. Israel and Iran had shared stratgic military interests and even though thy did not have full diplomatic ties people like Shimon Peres and even Prime Minister Golda Meir visited Iran according to the Shah's former prime minister Assadollah Allam. In the nineteen seventies Israel did not try to prevent any manoeuvres by the US, including Donald Romsfeld, to allwo the Shah to enrich uranium.I find it hard to believe that the Israelis went through all the trouble to build ties with Iran at the time when she did not have a single ally in the region and then want to bring Khomeini.
No one is opposed to Iran becoming a nuclear power but if the Islamic Republic obtains a nuclear weapon think of the consquences for Iranians and not Israel. The IR would be infallible and would send a message to any of its enemies that it is unstoppable and with a nuclear arsenal in its pocket it can eliminate any one of its enemies. There will be no hope of overthrowing the Islamic Republic and any hopes of overthrowing this regime let alone the toxic religion of Islam would vanish forever.
The fact that Israel is concentrates on the IR's nuclear capacity is a mistake. The Islamic Republic has fought a successful proxy war in Lebanon and Gaza and Ira using terror and conventional weapons.The nuclear issue is irrelevant. Regime change should tbe the only priority. At this moment in time what is good for Israel is good for Iran.
Think like the Palestinian:. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Mofaz should teach Persian to his children!
by Immortal Guard on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:10 PM PSTMofaz should teach Persian to his children so that at the proper time they will be able to beg Persians for mercy to save them from his Sunni Arab "friends"!
AlexInFlorida
by tabriz_balasi on Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:01 PM PSTI agree with most of what you said, but i don't agree with this statement which you said: here, a quote from you:
"although we need to take advantage of their (US, Israel) resources in favor of their own agenda"
NO, we do not need and should not play this game! We should not depart from principles, enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend, i believe. also, you would look like you're helping Israel and America, then you have to defend yourself. remember Masood Rajavi's hand shake with Saddam. if that is your strategy, then be my guess, and destroy yourself.
be an act at all times in the name of Allah.
To Mola Nasredeen... There is a difference
by AlexInFlorida on Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:30 PM PSTMost Iranians want to overthrow IRI and replace them with Freedom loving Iranian loving people.
Israel and Arabs, USA and UK want to over throw IRI and replace it with similar Mollahs and other crooked traitors like the ones they brought to power in 1979.
So it is obvous those that sincerely want to overthrow regime and bring about positive change cannot side with usa/uk/arabs/israel although they need to take advantage of their resources in favor of their own agenda.
Question: Are you intellectually challenged or can't you think beyond one simple concept?
Overthrow of traitor, corrupt failure IRI is the most patriotic and nationalist thing a iranian can do, provided they replace it with a proven Iran loving tradition like Shahhanshahi.
Mofaz
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:46 AM PSTis an Irani Jew himself. Sure Q everyone is a racist. I am not in support of Israel. In fact I have said Iran has a right to nuclear power and weapons. However this racist thing is getting really tiring. If someone says "racist" every time he posts it becomes meaningless.
LOL, what ELSE would Israel say?
by Q on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:40 AM PSTThat these undemocratic regimes owe their power to US/Israel support to keep their own people down and keep the oil flowing?
That most of these Arab leaders are literally antisemetic (Saudi Family) and holocaust deniers (Mahmous Abbas) and Israel shuts up like a good little US client state?
That Shaol Mofaz, a racist traitor, would rather bomb Iranian jews than to give up the "perception" of Israeli power?
Those who have been reading FredCo, should know that this is the official Israeli PR response to the Wikileaks: let's try using it to bomb Iran.
We have a saying in Persian: abe gel alood, mahi gereftan
Israel in a nutshell
To those who
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:30 AM PSTwho scream their nuts out for the overthrow of IRI. Why wast time?
Go ahead and join the Saudis and Israel. You don't have to explain yourself. They will expedite it for you. Join FredCompany and the rest of Zionist groupies here, they'll show you the way.
But there will be a whole Iranian nation who would fight back to save the Iranian nation.
tabriz_balasi Jan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:13 AM PSTI very much like your suggestion as between the two positions. More I read of your posts the more respect I get for you. It is good to hear some sense and a clear mind brought in this mess. Keep up the very good work.
it is all about prioritizing
by tabriz_balasi on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:09 AM PSTwhich one is of higher priority:
A. urinating on Iran's enemies (zionists, pan-arabs, blood&oil thirsty anglo's)
B. defecating on the mafia regime called "islam republic of iran"
if Iran knows how to make Neclear Wepons but doesn't actualy make it then that would be the ballance between A. and B.
Marg Bar Jomhouri Eslami
by AlexInFlorida on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:03 AM PSTDeath to IRI.
That is the reality of the wishes of the Majority of Iranian people living inside Iran. Fact. Most Iraians believe life was much much better with the Shah and most people that opposed him in 1979 honestly regret it.
IRI NaziFacist Regime is not wanted by most Iranians and out of 75 million ctizens has support of less than 6 million Iranians.
This being said the situation is complex because at the same time most Iranias also agree Arabs and Israeli's Governments are seen as ulawful and even criminal and not to be trusted.
2 things this deputy forgot to mention
1) Iranian govt is opposed to Nukes too... for all
2) It does not have the capability.. due to lack of scientists.. to make a nuke in the next geeration.
So with that 2nd point being know by every expert, its interesting that they all want to attack Iran. Instead of support democratic groups opposed to the regime ad give them the means to oppose the mullahs and their islamist thugs the basiji.
This is because the Arabs and Israel are no more than US servants and the truth that all can see is that it is the USA that does not want Freedom, Development and Progress for Iranians.
That is the reason The USA supported and paid to bring Khomeini and betrayed the Shah of Iran... because they had and still have Ill will towards Iranians.
It was the Pro Democracy groups of 1979 that betrayed IRAN with US support and what is also true is that they were the most betrayed by the USA themselves. The biggest danger towards the world is not a nuclear Iran... but a colonialist USA leading the world towards WW3. Through its proven criminal and unlawful actions... not against IRI, but all Iranians.
They supported the Green movement in order to replace one group of crooked mullahs with another.
My Question to Cheated Pro Democracy Iranians.. who do we have that is a better leader than the Son of the Shah to restore Freedom and democracy back to Iran? Get on the only band wagon that did not betray Iran so far... unlike mollahs, leftists and niave/inexperienced pro democracy leaders of the 1970's.
Javid Shah,
Shah, Iran, Azadi, Edalat, Democracy.
DavidD
by tabriz_balasi on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:49 AM PSTExactly. I wanted to write something like this but it was coming out shitty, but you said it bro.
be an act at all times in the name of Allah.
Delavar jaan, I think you have been taking way too many Viagra
by Bavafa on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:46 AM PSTMuch of your claim I think is as a result of the side affect of too many Viagra. Please advise when the side affects have worn off so we can communicate based on facts and not fiction.
Cheers
Mehrdad
A bucket of ice cold water all the way from viena...
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:42 AM PSTBefore you gang of jooooo hating half brain islamist agents, al-farsi, mola nasrullah, etc get too excited about your "noooooclear rights", your beloved "president", with the blessing of your "rahbar" will be soon and for sure giving "your diiiifiiiinite right" away to Americans in return for a few more pathethic years of this discredited islamist rule.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Iran and Israel
by DavidD on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:34 AM PSTThis is a bunch of B.S. Israel does not want Iran to become strong and all the ranting by Iranian mullahs is just like Roze Khooni.. Iranian have no guts to attack Israel or any nation. If Iran actually can and would build a N. Bomb, it only sets the balance of power in the region. All the neighboring Arabs are afraid that Iran has such a power and inserts its pressure on the weak Arab nations to spread Islam (????). Deep down all the Arabs want sone other country in the Middle East tp pocess the N. Bomb to deter Israel from being such a bully. However, the leaders of those countries are afraid of their own power and want to guid their nation the way it suits them...
Bavafa
by delavar on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:35 AM PSTIf the Taliban and Al Qaeda could be trusted to have Nukes, then the Iranian theocrartic govt. can be trusted. You might ask are there any differences b/w the Taliban and the Islamic Republic entity in Iran? I should say yes, there is one difference. The taliban and Alqaeada did not have the Oil but the Mullahs do.
Also regarding your comments that the Iranians are making the Nuke but not the regime in Iran so it's ok to have Nukes, then again that doesn't make sense. The ones in control of Nukes will not be the Iranian people but the terrorist regime in Iran. So would that have been ok if the Nazi Germany aquired Nukes if it were made by it's own people? I suppose that Viagra could also be produced by the pahrmaceutical companies in Iran made by the Iranian people , but is it ok if the Iranian govt. got hold of Viagra? No because it can be used in Iranian prisons given to prison guards that rape Iranian political prisoners. Even karroubi knows and has rased his voice against rapes in Iranian prisons
I am definitely for a nuclear Iran but not under a terrorist regime such as this. Having Nukes under such theocracy can have serious grave consequences for our people in Iran.
You also said ", to think they will nuke the Russians for not believing in god, the very same Russians that the Mullahs have been leaking their behind just to give them some arms or help with their nuclear program is just not inline with realities" . Well I should say that the mullahs have no gratitute. Isn't it the same mullahs that were helped by Jebheye melli, Communists and MKO? Didn't the regime get rid of all of those groups? Do you remember the way they killed Dr. Forouhar and his wife at their house? Didn't the execute over 20'000 communists only in 2 weeks in Gohardasht prison?
Also do you really think that the sunnies could trust the Iranian Shiite govt? Just go to any Hossainiyeh in Moharram in Iran and listen what they say about the Sunnies and how they would like to get revenge for the killing of Imam Hussain. Look at how they beat and self mutilate themself for something that happened 1500 years ago.
As I said as long as we have a theocracy in Iran, we will have difficulty dealing with the world, whether they are Sunnies, Western, Russians, communists or what have you. The key to prosperity in Iran is a secular independent govt and a socialist one in partular (If agreed by majority of Iranians)
BTW, the suicide bombing are and the ideology behind it has all been invented and exported not by the Saudi Arabia but the theocratic govt in Iran. We didn't see that many suicide bombings prior to the Islamic revolution in 1979. Taliban and Alqaeda may have perfected the suicide bombings but it was all started by Hezbollah in the 1980's. They even used those methods during Iran Iraq war by sending waves of basijies to the other side rather than fighting conventionally.
What a bunch of nonsense by this shameless warmonger
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Dec 10, 2010 09:42 AM PSTAccording to him Sunni Muslims must unit with ZioNazi regime of Israel to attack Iran. And also, settlements building in the occupied Palestinian land should continue nonstop. Just last night TV footage was showing a destroyed elementary school in West Bank, destroyed by the Israeli bulldozers.
A group of 26 ex-EU leaders has urged the union to impose sanctions on Israel for continuing to build settlements on occupied Palestinian territory. In a letter sent on Monday, they said Israel "like any other state" should be made to feel "the consequences" and pay a price for breaking international law. //www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11968304
Do Zionist leaders and their goupies (on this website too) take everybody but Jews as stupid? I had hoped the interviewer would've ask him about the Iranian scientists who were killed in Iran.
The audacity, really!
Niloufar is right
by iamfine on Fri Dec 10, 2010 09:33 AM PSTNiloufar is correct by saying "it is the Iranian people who own and create such technologies not the regime." I believe on deterrence. If Iran become nuclear, there is no way 5+1 can bully us around.
Delavar jaan: Your daleery is enviable but
by Bavafa on Fri Dec 10, 2010 09:10 AM PSTBased on your comment, my guess is that you have not really lived any where close to Mullahs to get to know them but perhaps your source of info comes from Faux news.
One thing that Mullahs are known for is that they will not risk their skin for any thing. So, to think they will nuke the Russians for not believing in god, the very same Russians that the Mullahs have been leaking their behind just to give them some arms or help with their nuclear program is just not inline with realities.
BTW, the suicide bombing are and the ideology behind it has all been invented, manufactured to the perfection and exported by the Saudi Arabia.
Mehrdad
To Niloufar and Sargord
by delavar on Fri Dec 10, 2010 09:09 AM PSTI agree with Tabriz Balasi. To my oppinion a regime that is against it's own citizens (Republic of Islam), a regime that rapes it's political prisoners; A regime that is the sponsor of International Islamic terror; A regime that exhorts suicide bombing; A regime that stones , tortures and maims it's own citiuzens; A regime that hates every aspect of being Iranian and Iranian history and has occupied Iran for the three past decade can not be trusted to have Nukes. No theocracy can be trusted to have Nukes.
Imagin a scnenario in which the Islamic Republic uses Nuke against for example Russia because most Russians do not believe in God. The Ayatollah can easily come up with a fatwa that Russinas are infidils because they do not believe it God. In this hypothethical scenario, what do you think is going to happen? Is there anyone who thinks that the Republic of Islam will not use nukes for being afraid of a retaliation? Wrong. They don't really care. They have that suicide bombing mentality and martyrdom mentality that tells them to go for it you will get into heaven. Do you really think that they care about Iranians?
Does anyone remember when the regime in Iran executed over 20,000 communist political prisoners in 1the 1980's only over a period of 2 weeks in Gohardasht prison (Close to Karaj) in Iran just because they were communists and they did not believe in God?
btw, since I know that sargod is also going to make his comments on this forum, I would like to repeat my question to him that was initially posted in another forum but he did not respond probably because he did not read it yet:
MR. SARGORD, So what is it about you hezbollahys and the Talibans that you don't like to be clean shaven? I can understand if you were a mullah but you are not. I was in Iran about 2 years ago after a long long time and one day I had a conversation with a basiji but I couldn't stand the guy not just because of his ideology but because his looks, untidiness, and his body smell. His body smelled like sweat and his mouth smelled like garlic and tooth decay. Is it haram for you guys to shave ? Is it haram to shower regularly and brush your teeth? Is using Aftershave, soap and body spray forbidden by the ayatollah or is it a "Taghooti" thing to do?
btw, please do do not compare by saying for example that it is the same in the U.S because some alchoholics and drugy bums in the the U.S may look and smell the same as you hezollahi and Jihadi guys in your Islamic utopia in Iran. Your illogical comparisons of the U.S and your Islamic govt in Iran do not work anymore. There are no similarities b/w any country in the world and your theocratic govt.