Iranian of the Day

political charlatan

    Obcessed and infatuated with Shia ideology , he used his western education to produce an amalgamation that appealed to the intellectuals . He turned  a mundane historical event ( war of Hossein with Moavieh) into the myth of all times .

    Whatever he said sounded great but had no essence and was hollow . He too had no answer as to what the Islamoc system would be like . With a bunch of "hadith " and no clear outline , ecconomic or social , he sold an outdated reactionary belief system to the youth . The Mullas were the recipient of all the beefits from his pseudo-scholarly work .

Mass Protest NYC 2/11/10

Feb 11 Mass Protest @ NYC

Official Residence of Iranian UN Ambassador

1033 Fifth Avenue (b/w  84 / 85ht St.) 

New York, NY 10022

This is the $10+ Million Fifth Avenue neo-classical 1912 Townhouse purchased by the Shah in 1966, and served as the un-official NYC Iranian Consulate in 1970s.

It now serves as the official residence of the IRI Iranian UN Ambassador.

What hypocrites...living in a milionaire mansion while thousands are in poverty.....great redistribution of wealth.

It is in the  Embassy Row  area of NYC with Consulates from all major EU countries and the Met Museum and NYC Elite millionaires. 

This peaceful protest will serve as a very visible and embarassing display of IRI crimes, when they try and celebrate this fraud-holiday with their thugs.   This is not some French suburb...its the capital of Western Media & Elite.

Wear surgical masks and dont sign any petition handed out by attractive girls...as Revolutionary Guard/Spy-Diplomats agents are in NYC and will be filming and taking names. 

End Iran Aprartheid 

Shariati

produced more BS than all the other "anttletuals" of his time in Iran put together. But I still note that some people practically worship this guy. I like to ask "why"? Would a supporter of Shariati please explain to me what is so special about him? 

I have read his writings; I have listened to his speeches; I have watched him on youtube. But not once did I  feel impressed by anything he said. Sure he has some points but nothing special and I disagree with most of them. 

He missed the greatest tragedy of Iran in the 7th century which was the fall of Sassanian. Then went on to become obsessed with Karbala. So what is it about him that so infatuates people. What is the big deal about him!

Shariati's "theories" failed

Time to move on after 4 decades.

Religious democracy is an oxymoron. 

Moosir

all I heard was islam is bad blablabla... okay we get it. What are going to do about it now geniuses?  Keep up with your pointless banter and piss off a great majority of iranians who belong to this religion? And still expect to ...

We don't have to do anything. Day by day IRR drives people away from Islam. We just sit back and watch. Evey person IRR rapes and kills drives more people away from Islam.! 

VA BEH SAMAD AGHA, Laila! Samad, you're so funny! merci!

Do these guy who are at each other here, even bother reading yours? They are so serious! LOL

Moosir

Enlightening has to start somewhere. You seem to be in love with status quo.

And this guy Shariati was a complete idiot. I read one of his book those many years ago and it was just full of stupid and baseless reasons to prove the validity of 1400 years old laws. He was the biggest ever rat that this country has ever seen.

some useless comments...

all I heard was islam is bad blablabla... okay we get it. What are going to do about it now geniuses? Keep up with your pointless banter and piss off a great majority of iranians who belong to this religion? And still expect to get results with your goal of democracy in Iran?

Back & forth, Demo

We can do this all day, but suffice it to say that if you need religion to make you a better person without imposing your will on others, then more power to you. 

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COP

Are we getting there? Is not the constructive talk better than calling each other names & put each other “down??” What is wrong with learning from immigrant birds when they fly as a group at the highest “elevations” thousands of miles to “progress” to their “seasonal” homes??

The “doctors” of religions (Mullahs, Rabbis, Priests, Monks, etc.), expert in the arbitrary attachment of prefix of “Certain Religious Act” to this law & to that word & without any clear warrants, all prescribe religion as an “Opium” or the “Ultimate Drug” to their followers. What is then the affect of “Opium” & its derivatives to the human mind??? Make it “polluted’ & “high” @ the same time. But we all know that those affects are “temporary??” Perhaps the search for “ultimate high” is part of our DNA?? The higher we go we still covet for higher. Do not we?? Or more importantly the “ultimate high” might be the “ultimate window of answers” to all those unanswered questions that we all have from the birth hour to the final hour. Very Truly of All.

payam, no grand standing. I have read read every word that POS

ever wrote. Sounds like you have not or you are yet to grasp its sinister content and meaning. IRR philosophy & theocracy is exactly what that SOB preached. by force of time he had to wear a tie because noone would have listened otherwise and he had to contend with the total oxymoron and contradiction that was his life & education vs. what he preached. Gorg zadeh gorg shavad, gar che ba adami bozorg shavad. See my original comment.

No Ultimate High

If it is, you'll find it right here on earth with all the dudes (specially in Tehran with the quality air) - pun intended!

Always good to have constructive talk, ay?

P.S., why should there be a reason for us to be here? Could we be here by..say...chance? Could there be other earths out there? Will they have the same god(s) and religions that we do......?

Too many questions and not enough answers.

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Payam

Shariati never advocated for a theocracy and he was extremely critical of the religious establishment and the mullahs at the time.

I agree with the second part of your statement. Shariati was very much critical of Mullahs. 

On the other hand he wanted the government based on Islam. That to me is a theocracy. Maybe not with a VF or Mullahs running the show. But he still wanted to intertwine religion and state. It you want to "as mast moo bekeshi" fine he did not want a Mullah ruled state. He wanted an Islam rules state. Although I am not sure how you would do this. I retract my mistake; are you happy now?

He said: everyday is Ashoura, every place is Karbala.
Well maybe to him but not to me. Who the heck was he to tell me what to think?

He also wanted to bring back Mehdi in tone with AN and other apocalypse types. I don't want an apocalypse. Who the heck is he to want to bring it upon all of us.

Why don't the devout just wait to meet Mehdi; Allah or whomever after they die? Why do they want to drag the rest of us with them?

COP & DK

As a tiny part of this Uni-Verse we are all but living “Dudes” as the Physicists are beginning to discover that 98% of the galaxy is nothing but “Smoke” or “Dude” in Farsi. Thanks much you & DK for your enlightenments. There are no disagreements we are all trying to learn from each other. No human will ever able to define “the ultimate high” whether he is praying 5 times or 500 times day & night. The “insights” like yours are what people like me make “educated.” There are no “pissing contest” about religion when we have eyes to see, hearts to feel, & ears to hear while we are “alive: on earth. What better way to acknowledge the “religion.” The “purpose” then comes with the territory as long as it makes think that all we see, feel, hear, growth, & etc. are not here without any “reason”. Otherwise why “progress” & why bother with the burden of “cost” to reach the “goal?”

PS: Freedom of Friggin Speech also comes with those human faculties (ears, eyes, hearts)  mentioned but it is helping with the “progress” only & only if they are used along with a thinking mind.      

Dont' talk of Shariati when you haven't read him!

Shariati never advocated for a theocracy and he was extremely critical of the religious establishment and the mullahs at the time. For this reason he was attacked by the mullahs for his beliefs. Show me a text in which he adovcated for a theocracy or a supreme leader and I'll consider your opinions valid. This current condition of oppression in Iran is not a result of his teachings but the subversion of them.

و به صمد آقا

و به صمد آقا لیلا. و به قوچعلی نان سنگک. و به عین الله شعور. و به گروهبان قندلی شجاعت. و به کروبی سیصد میلیون کم و بیش. و به ننه آقا یک عروس به نام لیلا.  بی‌خیال خدا جان، فقط یک آزادی به این مردم مظلوم عطا کن.

Cost-of-Progress Jaan

Alas I am afraid that They Actually do believe that.

Just Look at the likes of Hamid Dabashi and the Sadri Brothers and you will understand what drives these ANN TELLECTUALS :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWoV0pCxXLk

This ISLAMIC THINK TANK still think that Democracy and Islam is Compatible ...

Iran's Mousavi says he will continue fight for reform

They still have not understood that Secularism is the Pre-condition to Democracy !

Even the Christian Democrats have understood that secularism is the pre-condition and it does not mean that if a country is christian or that a political party is founded on christian values as is the case of Christian democrats in Europe that they can re-invent the institutions or mingle religious doctrines with political institutions that sustain democratic States.

It's not because the elected President or Prime Minister belongs to a Christian Democrat Party in Europe that he or she can abolish the Separation between State and Religion.

Sooner or later they will come to realize its a doomed road on the long run ...

Demo...lighten up

Dude, all you had to say is that you pray 5 times a day hoping that after you die you reach an ultimate high, and that you disagree with me. It also sounds like you are one of the individuals that we regard as "educated".

I really do not want to get into yet another pissing contest about religion with religious folks, but your definition of life and its "purpose" always gives me a chuckle. Seems to me that you folks care more about an unknown destiny more than what you can see with your own eyes, feel with your heart and hear with your ears while you are on this dusty earth.

Yours truly, before and after life,

CoP

P.S., I tend to touch a nurve every once in a while when I talk about MY views on religion......... let me see....I think it's called Freedom of Friggin' Speech...Ever heard of it?

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Cost of Progress to Eternity!!!

By admitting that we all are created out of sperms drops in our mothers' wombs and that after a short visit of this world will end up in dusty graves then where are our "progress" is directed to and who is in charge of its "cost"? Is it you or me or any specific group or nation??? Is not that all about the "faith" in eternity after the life on this earth & how to “progress” there??? Perhaps the "prayer" then is one way to reach there.

PS:  Is not "nationalistic proud" by itself a "religion" branching into different “cults” (blood thirsty or not) depending on where on this micro-spherical earth one is born & raised???

Stop!

Islam is a failed experience and the ones that believed in it as a political force dead or alive were/are deadly wrong. Cling on what YOU believe no what someone did which is already failed!

AZMOODAN RA AZMOODAN ESHTEBAH AST.

DK jon

Your post implies that these people actually believe that their doctrine is divine instructions for an otherwise lost nation. From the few apologists on this site, that assertion is probably correct.

I am often amazed at what religion has done to us as people as it replaced national pride with religious mambo jumbo. Assbackwardness, in my mind, has been the cause. However, I've known many so called eduacted people whose religious beliefs makes them blind to everything else. For some, though, personal gains is the ultimate goal achieved by pretending they are the torch carriers for an otherwise blood thirsty cult.

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He was never my favorite person

Mr Shariati went to Paris and got an education in a secular capitalist nation. He came back and prescribed a Marxist Islamic regime for Iran. Is there irony in that? I am baffled by how anyone would believe that a theocracy is a good thing specially an educated person.

Great Irony ...

Enough to turn Ali Shariati in his own tomb if he could see the result of his own teachings ...

//www.shariati.com/

و به روحانیون ما رحم، انسانیت و عقل بده

و به روحانیون ما رحم، انسانیت و عقل بده.
آمین.

و به حقه بازان ما مثل علی‌ شریعتی‌ و خمینی و خامنه‌ای نفرت ابدی

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