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Khanome Arthemis

Also responding me back in English to "You are not True Iranian" comment
of mine to you earlier, again you proved you don't read, write and
speak Persian (Farsi)

If I were you, I would challenge what I say here rather than questioning my Farsi, citizenship and so on. 

I am indeed baffled by you and your like minded ilks here who for some idiotic reasons insist to prove some unknown stupid points by either critisizing my spelling or blaming me for not knowing Farsi or questioning my Iranian citizenship. May I suggest that you people start illustrating some tangible sense here and "pache mano gaz begirid" for the issues I discuss rather than elemetry school like whining and moaning ? I mean shame on you people show some maturity!!!!!

Finally, by now, we all have discovered that by the number of posts you
have on iranian.com (in favor of I.R.), you must be on their payroll to
spread propaganda in favor of Satanic Republic occupying Iran.

Baz kam avordi and started hitting the roof by running your imaginations too high? I must be on the payroll if I don't praise your stinking thoughts or agree with your way of thinking right? "you are with us oe else..." seems to be the common acceptablereality here!!!

So much for your wishes for democracy for Iranians. Perhaps, far more useful, is better to learn what freedom and democracy mean before you get on every FREE tribune and advocate it for Iranians when you have no sense of tolerence for different point of view!

Get a life woman ! 

Last word : Start looking for a new job! Because Iran and Iranians will
defeat the forces of EVIL occupying Iran very soon. Mark my words here,
WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS... 

Regardless what I think of IRI, that system has no worry at all with idiot oppositions like you! That much you can take to the bank and cash!

Now, hopefully you agree that insulting is not a one way street! di you have enough yet? If yes, then I hope you have learned your lesson and next time adress me just like how you want to be addressed! That is as simple as i can put it to you ;-))

VPK

You have a lot of nerve as a Lebanese calling Arthimis not Iranian. Dude
you even do not deny being Lebanese!

You can think whatever you want, but that does not change the truth/reality/facts an iota!

So, what were you saying?

IMF

You have a lot of nerve as a Lebanese calling Arthimis not Iranian. Dude you even do not deny being Lebanese!

Islamic Military Forum!

Thank you, by responding to me and admitting/confirming to everyone here that you are in fact "Islamic Military Forum... LOL.

Also responding me back in English to "You are not True Iranian" comment of mine to you earlier, again you proved you don't read, write and speak Persian (Farsi) .Now you can get some help from Basijis in Farsi, but I'm afraid those criminal bastards are too busy beating, raping and killing my defenseless people in Iran!!!

Finally, by now, we all have discovered that by the number of posts you have on iranian.com (in favor of I.R.), you must be on their payroll to spread propaganda in favor of Satanic Republic occupying Iran.

Last word : Start looking for a new job! Because Iran and Iranians will defeat the forces of EVIL occupying Iran very soon. Mark my words here, WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS...

Artmissed

You are not True Iranian...

I guess not if your definition of an Iranian is one who has to have a pre-Islamic name! I wish if the world was as simple as Black and White as you like to think!

It seems like

there is no more claims of  "Busing people into Tehran" no more!!

It may be the sign that those who claim such things finally learned to count!

;-))

IZI joon to ke khoob baladi naghola.

Hala be jaye pinglish boro va neveshtan be zaban shirin Parsi ro yad begir, albatteh shayad baraat sakht basheh.

Islamic Military Forum !

You are not True Iranian...

تو که راست میگی! ولی‌ فلان فلان ... آدم دروغگو! آخه تا کی‌
انقدر دروغ، انکار، خود (و مردم) فریبی و خود (و مردم) فروشی؟؟؟؟ خجالت
بکشید!!! اون خدا بزنه تو کمر هرچه دروغگو....

برادر، خواهر، هر کسی‌ که هستی‌، به مردم راستین ایران زمین ملحق شوید!
هنوز هم دیر نیست! تا وقت هست، دست از مزدودری بر دارید! نگذارید جانتان
به بطالت، سلامتی شما و خانوادتان در آینده به خطر و عمرتان با حماقت محض
تلف شود!!! هنوز هم وقت هست که به انسانیت و وجدان خود برگردید و دست در
دست ایرانیان، ایران زمین را آزاد کنید! "گر بخود آئی، به خدا ایی‌ رسی‌،
به خود ا !!!!! هنوز هم وقت هست...

Must Read By Mohammad

Must Read
By Mohammad Sahimi
PBS

(...)

short, this was not a victory, but a defeat for the hardliners. Eight months after the rigged presidential election of June 12, the Green Movement is alive and well. Indeed, the hardliners were sufficiently terrified of the Movement that they deployed anti-riot forces to surround the headquarters of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (there were even reports that he and his family had been spirited away to a secret location); the broadcast centers for national television and radio, the Voice and Visage of the Islamic Republic; and many other government institutions. Mousavi was forcefully prevented from participating in the demonstrations and his wife, Dr. Zahra Rahnavard, was assaulted, as were Mehdi Karroubi and former president Mohammad Khatami...much more... 
//www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/02/-opinion-many-had.html

ایزی جون

ایرونی بودن رو بی‌خیال، تو انسان نیستی‌.  اول آدم شو بعد به فکر ملیت باش.

VPK

The Millions stayed in their cities! where do you think people who demonstrate in the US Stay? For that matter in other countries.

I know IRR shipped in"supporters" but millions I don't think so.

I am glad you are finally puting your step in the right direction by questioning the none sense being spewed by some people here and perhaps the Green's HQ.

If we were to bleieve a million were shipped, that means 23809 buses with 42 people capacity each. I guess lying is definately cheap.

Even if I accept a million were shipped into Theran, what percentage of all the people who demonstrated  for IRI would this constitute? let me help you, if we asume thatonly three million (this is an incredibly low assumption) it would give a solid 2 million to the IRI supporters. That is over sixty percent!

Now, the reality (by looking at the people density on Enghelab ave, alone, helicopter shots, phohos and foreign journalis reports) is that between five to seven millions were present in Theran alone and very few were Green supporters vased on lack of evidence provided by the group.

The "busing people into Tehran" is a great soundbite much like what the US candidates use during the presidential elelctions. But the truth is very hard to deny!

Payam man farsii balad nistam bekhoonam :)

Payam  jan

Mitooni oon posteto be ingilisi benivisi ke man ham befahmam. Akhe man fagat ingilisi balad hastam va oon chizhayi ke be zaboone nemidoonam chi chi neveshti ro nemitoonam bekhoonam.

Akhe midooni shoma fagat irani vageyi hastin va ma bagiye ha hamamoon hich farsi balad nistim.

Louie Louie is this the best you could come up with?

So your argument is that all those millions who showed up at the Azadi square were in fact the Green movement because the President Ahmadinejad had a security around him? Is this really the best argument you guys can come up with? Really?

Let me ask you then. How come you don’t see ONE Photo of anyone holding ONE picture of Mousavi or the ¼ Pahlavi for that matter?

If those millions were in fact there against the IRI then how come not ONE sign can be seen as being PRO green?

Like I said you guys can fool yourself as much as you want but IRI still has a huge following and you guys are going to be waiting a long time before your fantasy will even come close to being realized. Not as long as you guys have leaders like Mousavi, Karroubi, ¼ Pahlavi and Ashraf of MKO and get your marching orders from England and Izraeli Zionists.

BS Galore

The fact is that millions showed up to support the IRI and you guys can't accept that fact. and as long as these so called Green-ies follow losers like Mousavi, Karoubi, Rafsanjani, Pahlavi and MKO then you will be waiting a long time.

Millions? Really where did they all stay. I know IRR shipped in"supporters" but millions I don't think so. Meanwhile keep mixing MKO traitors with honorable resistance. If you think you can muddy water this way you are very mistaken. 

VPK

Izi

Are you Alireza? Just wondering. As for Pahlavis keep insulting them. The Pahlavis did more for Iran than I could mention here. IRR has not been able to destroy their legacy after 31 years of trying.

تو صفّ ساندیس بودند.

در ضمن برای من بسیار جالب است که جمهوری اسلامی جنبش سبز رو
متصل و متعلق به خارجی‌‌ها میدونه، اما توی این سایت تمامی‌ طرفدار‌های
جمهوری اسلامی هستند که یک کلمه فارسی بلد نیستند و همش فرنگی‌ مینویسند.

This explains it very well

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I should have said thank you to dear Shifteh for sharing it with us. Thanks for your hard work.

Izi

You seem to be a fresh face here. If anything, you should get used to many ironies here. One is that the very people here who cry out aloud for "Freedom and Democracy" often attempt to make their voices heard though profanity, personal attacks and holliganism to silence opposing vice. No wonder Iranians rejected them on 22 Bhman in a massive show of unity. You cannot "discuss" with these "self proclaimed Iranian Democrates" pretty much anything since they are here with blinders carried over 31 years.

Some "claims" though not necessarily lies but vastly exeggerated by these very posters here.

The buses,

Iranians in the US  are a very educated bunch (though it is hard to believe this here at IC by the very nature of the posts). Iran Khodro which supplies most of the country's buses, mentions a capacity of 46 passengers for their top of the line long range Delux buses, otherwise a seating of 42 is more common.

Assume 46 as te highest possible capacity for all the buses that brought people to the capital (giving the opposition the benefit of the doubt). A simple calculation would show a mere 46000 were transported for every 1000 group of buses. Let's give the opposition yet another benefit of the doubt and assume a massive number of buses ere used, say 5000 buses were used for tranprtation. The calculation shows 230,000 were bused in. Now, with the crowd  as seen on the satellite images stretching from Emam Hussein circle to Azadi, 230,000 (remember, we terribly exeggerated the number of buses used)does not even make a dent in the numbers of people appearing on the images which is by all foreign accounts estimated to be in several millions.

Again the estimates above take into account a great deal of stretching the facts. I dare anyone here to prove that there were 1500 buses on the images provided so far let alone 3000,4000 or 5000 per my assumption.

Rest assured, 22 Bahman message of IRI's massive internal support, has been well received by the key international players in total surprise and in spite of the fact that there was a massive International media and political support given to the opposition by the West and Israel.

In the days ahead, we will gauge the truth of it all when we see how this Chess game will be played in its new phase.

Red Herrings again

I am sorry i didn't notice the diffrence between "Amir19" and "Amir1973".

When I used the the Pahlavi example I was using the "you"in plural meaning in here. You guys here are still supporting Kiddie Shah (1/4 Phalavi) and every so called wanne be leader in between. Changing the topic and let out red herrings is not going to help your argument.

But again our discussion here is the fact that you guys were saying:

1) not many people showed up

2) 90% were really the Green movement.

I have clearly showed you guys that both those claims are wishful thnking at best.

The fact is that millions showed up to support the IRI and you guys can't accept that fact. and as long as these so called Green-ies follow losers like Mousavi, Karoubi, Rafsanjani, Pahlavi and MKO then you will be waiting a long time.

To Izi the IRI groupie

Havaset ku? Man tarafdar-e Pahlaviha nistam. Man tarafdar-e hokumat-e demokrasi hastam.

Iranians' average income in 2001 was 40% lower than it was in 1976!!!!! What other countries' income has fallen 40% from 1976 to 2001??? If you can name me one such other country, I would very much like to hear it (and bear in mind, Shah's regime enjoyed high oil prices only from 1973-1978; Iran made more oil money in the 4 years of Ahmadinejad, the cutthroat Man of the People, than the 8 years under Khatami, phony Turbaned reformer. The murderers running Iran killed an exponentially greater number of Iranians in the years 1981-1982 alone than the Shah did in the years 1941-1979. You want to discuss red herrings? I'll remember that the next time Ahmadinejad predicts the fall of the US, the imminent collapse of Israel or boasts about Iran joining the ranks of elite countries.

I can't recall the person who said it on Iranian.com a couple days ago, but the IRI is the greatest man made disaster to hit Iran in many centuries (I couldn't have said it better myself). 

ey rast migi

Alan motevaje shodam ke ba do ta Amir a mokhtalef daram harf mizanam.

Bebakhshid.

izi joon

fekr konam ba dota amir harf mizani.  ghati kardi dada. amir esm mahboobieh.

Red herrings my friend red herrings

My dear Amir1973 you are throwing red herrings trying to divert the discussion. What makes me happy is not the issue here.

The discussion here is that fact that you are claiming that only a few people showed up to the 22nd Bahman demonstrations.

You are clearly wrong on that.

So your came back that 90% was really the Green but at the same time they were forced to be there which is moronic logic.

nobody is paying attention!!

COOL!! even their own (supposed) supporters don't seem to be listening, or give a shit!! what a pathetic regime. idiots!! love the non-verbal Qs, such as fuckheads picture on the ground!

  MARG BAR DICTATOR !!!

If you are trying to insult me.......

If you are trying to insult me you are really not doing a good job. No wonder after 31 years all you can do is put up posters of the ¼ Phalavi and just shout form 6000 miles away.

Amir your intelligence is beyond reasoning and laughable.

You just went through this long post of trying to convince me that 90% of the demonstrators were “Green” but now you are telling me that the Government brought them there.

So which one is it?

Izi, what does it take for YOU to be happy?

Does it make you happy to live in the decadent West, rather than in the Islamist paradise known as the Democratic People's Islamic Republic of Iran? IRI is a basket case, with the world's highest rate of drug addictions and a GDP per capita lower than that of Botswana and Gabon. Do those photoshopped rocket launches make you happy or the revamped 1960s US fighter planes that they call Saeqeh or is it the throwaway military junk of N Korea? Just look at the pathetic and poor regime you are rooting for. Its educated elite are lining up at the embassies of Canada, US, Australia, and European countries just cause they want to get out so badly (just like yourself). Why do IRI's cyber groupies insist that their love affair with the murderous regime be conducted from such a long distance? You defend IRI, but you just don't want to live there. 

Amir19 you are so right :)

Hey if that's what it takes for you to be happy then so be it.

All those people that came out were all "green" but they did nothing? not one of them brought out the picture of Mousavi? Any rational person would agree that they are IRI supporters.

Like I said you guys can fool your self as much as you want but the real world is in a totally diffrent dimension than your reality.

You know if I am wrong I guess Mousavi is going to come out within few days and proclaim his success of the 22 bahman.

Dear IRI groupie named izi

90% of the people on 22 Bahman were green supporters

In the pro-government rally of 9th of Dai (نهم دی) which government used all it's resources to bring people to the streets, based on their own claim 3 million people in Tehran showed up to support the government.  Now, in 22 Bahman, they say that over 7 million people showed up and if we even follow their estimates, and accept that on the 9th of Dai rally, 3 million and on 22 Bahman 7 million came out, then it means that 4 million of the people who showed up in 22 Bahman were of the green movement and of opposition group, otherwise the same amount of people who came out on 22 Bahman would have come out of 9th of Dai. Of course, realistically, we know that on 9th of Dai only 500,000 people showed up and the best estimates for the 22 Bahman was around 5 million (in Tehran only) which tells us 4.5 million of the people (90%) who showed up in streets of Tehran on 22 Bahman were anti government and supporters of the green movement.  Government can say whatever they want, but numbers don't lie.

So the other photos and videos are all lying?

you guys can fool yourself as much as you want. The fact is that IRI still has a HUGE amount of followers.

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 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYqckFvUJI&feature=player_embedded

For 31 years you guys have been saying this year is it and so on and so on.....

Well I guess there is always next year.