Parazit: Shanbehzadeh

Interview with musician and more

Those in San Francisco Bay Area can see the Shanbehzadeh Ensemble's first concert in the US West Coast this Saturday night October 23 at the Herbst Theater. Those in Los Angeles DO NOT miss him Sunday night (Oct 24).

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Arthimis

I respect this man for his

by Arthimis on

I respect this man for his honest and energetic views and art eventhough, I'm not crazy for his type of music/art personally, in general...

However, I felt sorry for him during this interview and other Iranians (Ham-Meehans) from South especially... It seems that they carry a lot of pain, hurt and disappointments from the rest of us, especially from Tehranis and People from Center (Markaz) of Iran. For the way they have been treated as second class citizens for so many years, because of their race and dialect perhaps!! It is very sad and shameful...

I pray for the day us Iranians really unite as a nation against Dictatorships, Ignorance, prejudice, selfishness, showing off and narcissism...


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Mash Ghanbar

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

No I am not being sarcastic. I have stopped arguing with Q because it is a waste of time. I enjoy reading your arguments. But I am not willing to join in an argument with Q: it is a waste.

mash Ghanbar

VPK jan

by mash Ghanbar on

Are you being sarcastic?:))

But all the Joking aside, This was converted into an actual argument rather than a normal discussion when someone started making accusations of the other one being a sore loser and not seeing the facts as he sees them and then it just rolled down the hill from then on. You know how that goes:)

 


Cheezaki

debate @ FB

by Cheezaki on

There was a lively debate at Shanbezadeh Ensemble's FB page about Saeed on the VOA show. Most of the people support him while a few criticized the "ahmagh" word. I went to the show. I think they are awesome! Beautiful performance on stage and on TV.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Mash Ghanbar and Q

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

This is a very interesting thread you guys have made. Keep up the good work. I apologize for keeping out of your lon debate. But I don't want to mess it up.


Pejman7

GREAT INTERVIEW

by Pejman7 on

Great Interview! thanks for posting the links. 


shaw

Shambezadeh: a political promotion

by shaw on

Maybe it's the African looks speaking farsi that entices his audience. Or maybe it's his public mockery of Monkeynejad to say he's one of us. I think it's the charm, charisma, and confidence, but as far as music goes, Iranians had more sophisticated music and dance 2500 years ago, as well as before 1979. Shambezadeh should consider that when he complains that he's gotten nothing from the current regime.

Watching Shambezadeh hump a big pink bag-pipe that sounds like a pig making love, just as it appears, made me wonder why his biggest fans resemble the bovine Iranians who cheered for Khomeini, at the expense of our country, and our world class orchestra that they banned initially.

It is a painful reminder of the regression of our culture. It hurts to see Iranians cheering for primitive entertainers instead of encouraging a our talented artists to raise the bar, to lead the progression and evolution of art and music that the rest of the world surpassed with Mozart, Tsaikovsky, or Beethoven. This kind of music has stayed in the daahaat because that's what it's good for. 

With his nuggets of anti-imperialism, maybe he needs an education to learn that the West has built upon and advanced what they took from Iran while we keep getting pulled backward by tribalist idiots and mullahs who seem not to mind him.

It's why he rips on Germany, through poetic charm. 

After following Pezhham Akhavass and other more sophisticated Iranian musicians with greater musical skill, Shambezadeh sounds like a juvenile doing ABCs. Watching Shambezadeh next to his domback player, clapping his hands together, however enthusiastically and energetically, reminded me of a toy -- a monkey with arms that swing together, crashing symbols together repeatedly -- made for kids. 

It is primitive level talent branded and sold as high-art.

If my critique sounds harsh, it is because ancient Persians had already advanced art and culture beyond this level, and NOT by promoting talent just because it comes from the boondocks. Since, Shambezadeh openly mocks compatriot musicians and artists in cities, or those relocated to Los Angeles, let him take what he dishes out. Most of them have children with more musical talent, but without the arrogance or the audacity to take center stage, and your money.

Even the cheesiest Iranian musicians have more pride in their musical talent than to resort to going shirtless as a gimmick.

Observing the female response to that, it's a reminder to Iranian men: to snap out of guilt ridden mental intellectualism. Women coo for this guy because he offers what you don't: fun loving, care free happy to be a living man who likes to hump. You already have more talent and skill yourself, and you guys know it. Shake your own asses and BE that something your own women adore. He doesn't care that he acts like a fool. Neither should you.

Who knows, maybe if you humped more, you might reclaim Iran from idiot mullahs. Seriously, the reason women drool for him is the same reason your country was taken by mullahs and western douche bags. Grow some balls. Take pride and JOY in YOUR natural indulgence in the bedroom (or wherever you want to knock your lady's socks off), not theater seats watching this guy do it for you, singing worse than you do in the shower.

Shambezadeh's emphasis on Bushehr is a stark indicator that this semi-talented, albeit very gutsy, charismatic, and good-natured man, has been thrust to the spotlight and headlines to humanize Bushehr and make it unpopular to bomb the nuclear facility and the residents.

Even with that force thrusting him to the spotlight, I respect Shambezadeh for stepping up, but with the caveat that he needs to improve his show instead of criticize other musicians. For that, and for ripping on Western (imperialist) music, he's a douche. He'd be wise to push his so called "art" to a higher level that gives them a run for their money instead of being a reckless political punk. Iranians will be expelling the mullahs and any other mediocre or regressive junk being sold to the world as Iranian.

 


mash Ghanbar

Congratulationsss

by mash Ghanbar on

You winnn... Now go and leave me the %^%^ alone,. Go celebrate your Internet-achieved victory. Go on and spread the message.

Once again no substance, only a time wasting rant. How typical.

Sure Hitler. It is only Your words and what you see and hear from this video that is the Truth,. The rest be damned. Sure.

Once again no substance, only a time wasting rant. How typical.

Yes Q. It is a known fact that You never bring substance to the conversation. You are like a bully. Always forcing your point onto others: Case in point:

Only a sore loser would say truth has "versions translation: i am always right and you are always wrong, those who dare to see your "version" of the truth, even though it maynot be the same way as i see it. That being the case, you are a sore loser.

Surely you know there are two words for making a stupid statement, being confronted with the truth from the video, and then continuing to be in denial about it. Those two words are: sore loser.

Two words for making a stupid statement ??LOL oh cool. and You just used them: Sore Loser. so you just made a stupid statement?? LOL you said it not me. mr. smarty pants. I told you once, what i was confronted with. Now if you want to deny it, be my guest.

I repeated what for you? No more typing when you sniffed cough syrup again, Please. as it is you don't ever make any sense, You mix up your words and put out some nonsense . so please. Don't make it any worse.

get a life Q and leave this childishness behind you. Not good for a man of your age. Every argument with you trails off into some tit for that and some game, because You Think that whatYou believe is it and nothing else matters. Learn to have Janbeh and Be a man. Not like a little boy running around chanting: nanaan sore loser. sore loser. and then getting down to analyzing all of its different aspects over and over .

 

 

 


Q

Yawn x 2

by Q on

Once again no substance, only a time wasting rant. How typical.

Surely you know there are two words for making a stupid statement, being confronted with the truth from the video, and then continuing to be in denial about it. Those two words are: sore loser.

Only a sore loser would say truth has "versions."

I see you repeated the right section of the video for me, so no need to do it myself this time. Thanks.


mash Ghanbar

Well, I don't know. What

by mash Ghanbar on

Well, I don't know. What would you say, since you suffer from both abnormalities. You pick one.  

You are A hypcrite to the core. You accuse people of Repeating things while you yourself take the prize in doing that. How would you characterize that?!!!

There are no mistakes. Just becuse one does not adhere to your version of the truth and does not agree with what you think of as being facts! does not make them sore loser key in chize haleet mishe to akhe?

Yeah You repeat until you fall sleep with your pestoonak in your mouth. Keep sucking and keep saying to yourself that others Lie and i am the one who is the champion of Honesty.

You are obssessed with yourself. You suffer from sadism. a sadistic individual. Here is the proof:  

The reality in front of me?? sure i am totally capable of seeing it.

Totally incapable. I repeat:

Now watch the video Part 2 @ 9:23
 


Q

better repetitive than being in denial

by Q on

or a sore loser incapable of admitting his mistake, wouldn't you say?

The reality in front of me?? sure i am totally capable of seeing it.

Totally incapable. I repeat:

Now watch the video Part 2 @ 9:23


mash Ghanbar

King of repetition

by mash Ghanbar on

LOOL.

Good Job shooting yourself in the foot and defeating your own purpose. LOOOL.

 


Q

Yawn...

by Q on

The rest of your rant, is that of a sore loser. Totally devoid of substance and attacking the messenger. Totally incapable of seeing the reality right in front of you, and clinging to self-serving lies. Denial, once again.


mash Ghanbar

Qulusional.. bache dabestani

by mash Ghanbar on

 

 There's the evidence of you being a sore loser. Once again we have to ask, what kind of psycho-sociological blindness you must be suffering from to make you this dense.

I don't. The sickness is all yours. You are the one who Badmouth everyone and Shove BS and lies down everyone's throat dubbed as Evidence. You are the Sicko-in-chief with your absolutely, delusional, bache dabestani, tantrums and maniacal cries. WE? Who is we? No one is backing you up on this one Delusional man. You are in this all by yourself. Khab did kheyreh.

Suffering to make you this defense? What is the matter? You failed ESL level 1 again? Shame shame. Roofoozeh....

 It's not something a normal person would miss, and it couldn't be an innocent mistake since you keep repeating a lie when it's so obvious for all to see. Regardless of the root cause, you are welcome to live in denial all you want. Just so everyone else know what the truth is, they can watch the video.

Normal? who has given you the god given right to make determinations on who is normal and who is not? You really consider yourself to be normal?Innocent mistakes? LOL.Look at you . Themaster of all deceptions, calls someone else a liar. How ironice indeed. I will come out of denial when you decide to do the same deal?

 Yeah. Good Freaking idea Q. So why don't you save your anger, and let people make up their own minds,

 

The rest of your rant, is that of a sore loser. Totally devoid of substance and attacking the messenger. Totally incapable of seeing the reality right in front of you, and clinging to self-serving lies. Denial, once again

Sore Loser... LOL you just love that term don't you? Must be that kids back in school days used these words on you so many times, It kinda got stuck on you, Became an Oooo Ghhh deh... Devoid of substance?? LOL ohhh says the King of Substance . Attacking the messenger?? You are repeating yourself again. Look. I told you, But did not get through the Thick skull, You ATTACKED ME. YOU Called me names first. so you are at fault here. Chief Propagandist.

The reality in front of me?? sure i am totally capable of seeing it. Its  your pathetic, meaningless words that i see. I see Your vileness and Vulgarity, thatis the reality that i see in front of me. I see your madeness, anger, desparation, that is what i see in front of me . AS freaking real as they can get.

Only a crazy maniac can come up with such conclusion. Keep in mind that it was devilish VOA that at least offered him a chance to speak and get the words out Unlike what can be said about the real losers that you support. You remeber that and weep for yourself.

Adios hitler.

 

 


comrade

A good one, a very good one...

by comrade on

ShanbehZadeh seems an energetic and genuine young fellow who was absolutely right on the sick and divisive issue of "Tehrani-Shahrestani".

In my opinion despite his poor choice of one word, he owes no apology to no one!

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

 


Q

Sore loser

by Q on

Mash Ghanbar's claim:

he never specifically mentioned the western element involved in this and never even remotely made the reference.

Now watch the video Part 2 @ 9:23

Direct translation:

"That person who plays the Western flute, people think he is of a higher class"

There's the evidence of you being a sore loser. Once again we have to ask, what kind of psycho-sociological blindness you must be suffering from to make you this dense. It's not something a normal person would miss, and it couldn't be an innocent mistake since you keep repeating a lie when it's so obvious for all to see. Regardless of the root cause, you are welcome to live in denial all you want. Just so everyone else know what the truth is, they can watch the video.

The rest of your rant, is that of a sore loser. Totally devoid of substance and attacking the messenger. Totally incapable of seeing the reality right in front of you, and clinging to self-serving lies. Denial, once again.

I sympathize with Shanbezadeh. The kind of blind ignorance he is faced with is not easy to overcome, particularly when the ignorant are also suffering from denial.

Mehrdad, agreed. Perhaps the only ground-breaking and worthwhile discussion ever done by Parazit. You can bet he won't be invited back again.


Mehrban

Why give an interview to an "Ahmagh" program

by Mehrban on

how rude and hypocritical!


mash Ghanbar

Qlusional

by mash Ghanbar on

It's very instructive to see your arrogant chauvunism, very much relevant to what Shanbezadeh referred to. You can't seem to admit when you're wrong, and have to keep digging yourself a bigger hole.

Are you out of your mind? Calling me a sore loser like the $%$% thatyou are. and that qualifues me  as arrogant?

reference #1: bad Flûte traversière players getting more respect because it's a western instrument

reference #2: bad Piano players getting being considered more worthy

reference #3: Guitar. You're laughably saying, this has nothing to do with being "Western". It came immediately after two previous examples.

All you have to do is listen to the Part 2 from 9:05.

1- No need to repeat yourself like pathetic tootie. he never specifically mentioned the western element involved in this and never even remotely made the reference.

2- Flawed and incorrect grammer there buddy. getting being considered what???

3- again, Guitar gets more attention because it looks the way it does not because it was created or invented in the west.

Mine is not a response? Says who Shahansha Q? You are so incredibly full of it aren't you? Since when do you get to qualify what constitues a response or does not? Your objections that you wrote! were worth less than caw sh..t and no matter how many times i read it, i am still not going to stop marveling at your ignorance and Idiocy.

Yes, people need to see that you put words in other people's mouth, either becuase you get off on it or because you couldn't understand the original. I never called myself roshan fekr, but you seemed to think I did. You've been proven wrong. Now you're, once-again being a sore loser about it.

God Q . Why must your turn every diccussion into a crap fest ha? I could not understand the original??? which was what? Why do we always resort to insults and badmouthing? One thing comes to mind: That you have this huge OGhdeh that you just got to get it off your chest . You wish that there were any one in here that was more loser , a sore loser, than you. You wish.

I never said that fox and cnn were not private entities you smarty pants. You think others can't read? take a good and long look at your own self, dude.

actually i got many things right, if your worn out mind lets you observe things in an objective and sane way and like a crazy lunetic.

I am playing dumb LOL oh ok, I take that vs you being the actual idiot anytime. sure. Whatever makes you sleep without your Dandoon masnooees at night. Crazy jan/ When i said They had the same mission i was not suggesting that legally they were created by the same set of laws and regulations, But the content of their program and the Jokes and the humor that they employ to spreattheir message. Which unfortunately, Prunes such as yourself are totally Unreceptive to it.

I was not playing for Win or Lose. baby Q. like i said that is your School yard shenanigans that you always implement on this site. Fine. You won. Hala rahat boro besheen cartoon tamasha kon.

I made up fantasies about you??? What??? I attacked You WHILE IT WAS YOU WHO CALLED ME A SORE LOSER? LOL . If ain't the good Old shamless Q.

Adios Pathetic Prune.


Parthianshot91

Dahatis = Rednecks basically

by Parthianshot91 on

 My father and mother are both originally from villages, but they moved out in their teen years. 70% of Iranians lived in villages infact before the Pahlavi dynasty and the shah came into power. It's not cause of their accent that they're not looked upon on, it's cause because they're simple minded and lack simple education that the vast majority of the country knows. Of-cource they don't hurt anyone, except for the one's who join the basij or some crap like that.

 

I still have a pretty big percentage of family living in Villages and small towns.

 Anyways, I agree on the part that traditional Iranian/Persian music should be encouraged than the heavily westernized music.

 --------------------------------------------------------------

"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

 "I'd rather be hated for w


Bavafa

Perhaps the greatest interview ever

by Bavafa on

In general I like the interviews on this show very much but the rest... well can't find any word but "boring" for it

Mehrdad


divaneh

Damet Garm Shanbehzadeh

by divaneh on

I agree with what he says 100%. He is very right about the undeserved arrogance shown by some of those in capital. I have seen the same attitude in some of those in other cities when they address villagers. 

I normally look down on people who call someone else Shahrestani or Dehati in an effort to put themselves one level up. To me this indicates that such a person has nothing else to be proud of but the accent or place of birth. In need of self worth, such person holds to a false value system where accidental traits are matters of pride. Not surprisingly you do not witness this attitude in enlightened individuals.


B- Vafa

WELL SAID

by B- Vafa on

Thank you for the nice responce to the interview.


B- Vafa

I LOVE THIS GUY

by B- Vafa on

They are all Ahmaghs.Spacially a reporter who calls Iranians by different names like Shahrestani.What the F that suppose to mean anyway?

 


Q

Don't be such a sore loser

by Q on

Mash Ghanbar,

It's very instructive to see your arrogant chauvunism, very much relevant to what Shanbezadeh referred to. You can't seem to admit when you're wrong, and have to keep digging yourself a bigger hole.

This is what you wrote:

Also. there was no reference to Criticizing western influence at all That is something You wish to extract and pull outta it.

reference #1: bad Flûte traversière players getting more respect because it's a western instrument

reference #2: bad Piano players getting being considered more worthy

reference #3: Guitar. You're laughably saying, this has nothing to do with being "Western". It came immediately after two previous examples.

All you have to do is listen to the Part 2 from 9:05.

Next after the "Idiots" comment, you said:
he corrected himself

Totally false, and never happened. He did clarify only to say "naghsheh darid", that's not "correcting" anything.

Then you retort:

Again you are getting it backwards as usual and putting your own spin on things.

Read the 2 objections I wrote about (Tehrani elitism, and Western influence being valued more by Iranians). Yours is not a response.

Obvious? loool. Yeahh. Ok there pal.
See 3 examples above. He specifically uses the word "western". That would be obvious to most people who are not blinded by their own arrogance.

Ahh. Good. A lot of people needed to see that coming from you Just to be sure. Thanks for making that declaration.
Yes, people need to see that you put words in other people's mouth, either becuase you get off on it or because you couldn't understand the original. I never called myself roshan fekr, but you seemed to think I did. You've been proven wrong. Now you're, once-again being a sore loser about it.

Yeah but so what? So does Fox and so does CNN in various shape and forms
No, wrong once again. FOX and CNN are private for-profit companies, nobody gives them tax money.

Has it crossed your mind that some of these Tax-payers whoes moeny supports VOA's functions and programms may actually like what they see on this show?
LOL! Yes, you got one thing right! Many of the Iranian-Americans do like it, and do pay taxes. Too bad the mission of the VOA is to broadcast to non tax payers around the world.

Jon stewart and parazit have the same mission.
Oh please! You're playing dumb. The VOA mission is stated public charter, the US law that founded the organization.

The rest of your blab is basically "I lost the argument, so instead I will attack the speaker, making up fantasies about him"... so typical, for sore losers.

daneshsh, seriously believe it! Truth hurts.


mash Ghanbar

Ohhh Q

by mash Ghanbar on

 

Listen to Part 2 from 9:05. He uses a specific example to show what he's talking about. He says if some accomplished master plays Sorna (Persian flute), versus some amature playing Flûte traversière, the people will think the guy playing the Western instrument is of a higher class, even if he is horrible. He continues saying if someone plays the Piano, like the people who advertise all over Tehran, that person is seen as having higher worth than those playing traditional Iranian instrument. He says the same thing about the Guitar saying "noone sheklesh mikhoreh", meaning it is only popular because it's western.

Noone sheklesho mikhore has nothing to do with it gets all the attention because it is western or meaning that he is trying to object to the westernization idea.  Are you too dementedly dogmatic as to miss this simple point? One needs to only mention something that is remotely related to a western phenomenon and that does it for you right??? Oh look people. The west ... The evil west is being criticized or honored here?? You are so out of it,

Later, he refers to the Kronos Quartet and says if that group chose to adopt or jam with an Iranian musician it would be front page news all over the world (meaning iranian media would find it worthy and praise it because it involves the prominant Western group).

Not necessarily, Again you are getting it backwards as usual and putting your own spin on things.

This is all very obvious, Mash Ghanbar, how could you have possibly missed it?

Obvious? loool. Yeahh. Ok there pal. So many things are "obvious" to you that in reality they are not, is that not the case?

Are you one of those people who physically becomes deaf when there is something they don't want to hear?

Nop. That would be you. Everyone knows it iran here,. Not only that, but this will be followed up with your cries of ''ohhhh someone is follwoing me around and stalking meeeeeeeeee.... ""

So much for you "point 1". Yeah. and so much for you proving me wrong LOOL.

What is my "propagandizing" way of looking at it? It is a satire as you say, so "clown show" is appropriate. I haven't seen any evidence that more people look at this show in Iran than they do outside of Iran. But even if that was true, many people love watching bad American movies and pop music videos, so a "clown show" could be popular but not as seriously, not as news, and therefore not an effective way to do anything about the kind of injustices the show supposedly cares about. So it functions just like MTV and Hollywood, i.e. American propaganda.

Clown show?? now you are inventing terms?? Where did you dig that from? Of course you do not see the evidence for anything if you decided and choose not to, case in point : you.

Comparing bad movies and Shows such as this one, is like Comparing Noon sangak with Khoroosh Q bashi. You can not compare the popularity of some bad and junk movie With this show that puts its finger on the pulse of what so many iranians feel and want to see. The theme of this show identifies very closely with what is going on in many parts of Iranian society, whether your eyes want to see it or ears want to hear it, Or not. So, You are right, even though it is not doing the Job of a serious newscast (SINCE , again so you understand better, It is not its mission to do so) yet at the same time it is using humor to send the message of Dissatisfaction and Uneasiness across.

Yes. Wishful thinking. You said he "corrected himself". He did not, so you were wishful thinking, or perhaps deluding yourself.

Q. Saying "i will clarify this in a minute " is in a way correcting oneself. but i don't mean to tit and tat over this with you. I don't play your school yard games. Fine, whatever.

You think I called myself "roshan fekr" ? Maybe you should read more carefully.

Ahh. Good. A lot of people needed to see that coming from you Just to be sure. Thanks for making that declaration.

Now you are just being ignorant. VOA is an American tax-payer funded service. It has stated values, one of which is to communicate American values. The tag line on VOA literature says "trusted source of news and information since 1945".

Yeah but so what? So does Fox and so does CNN in various shape and forms , all claiming to be the source of The most credible and reliable news and so does virtually every major and minor news outlet in this country. What the hell is your point?

Has it crossed your mind that some of these Tax-payers whoes moeny supports VOA's functions and programms may actually like what they see on this show?

Jon stewart and parazit have the same mission. Jon stewart is "charging" people By selling them products and services his sponsors ask or rather force him to market on his show. DO you Get that Genius jan?

 


daneshsh

seriously?

by daneshsh on

while I agree with the fact that labels like "shahrestani" are not necessary and should be avoided, I did not like the way Shanbezadeh reacted to it. He did not need to call his interviewer an "idiot". Only an uneducated person would criticize people like that. I appreciated his music and his confidence before, but now, to me, he is only a "bisavad" who does not know how to express himself. He got so worked out over the label "Shahrestani" only to use it himself after a couple minutes to say exactly what Kambiz was trying to say.


Anonymous Observer

Q, I usually ignore your comments, even though you chase me

by Anonymous Observer on

me around like a lost puppy, but I just wanted to point out to you that in your response to me you have misplaced a comma.  You don't need a comma after "sure."  It messes up the flow of your sentence and the message that you try to convey.

BTW, I guess you did get your panties in a bunch over the comment.  Also, what are you doing up at 3:19 am?  It's really odd to see you post at these strange times of day. Do you like me THAT much, that you stay up that late to respond to my comment?  Wow, I'm flattered...I guess...in kind of a weird--victim of a stalker- way though... 

PS- here, watch this video.  Perhaps you will understand my comment better:

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao-jSnKNCF0&NR=1

It's a spoof of Jimmy McMillan, the candidate for NY governorship--who I, BTW, think is a great guy and probably would have voted for if I lived in NY.  Here's McMillan himself:

  //www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0&NR=1

Anyway....see you on my next blog Q.  Will look forward to your comments. :-)) 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

I like

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

this :-) He is very funny. I like to assure that not all northern Iranians look down at south. All of Iran is sacred. That includes this gentleman and all the others. 

I love how it puts the interviewer where he belongs. Man shahrestani nistam Iraniam. Well said; my friend.


Q

Mash ghanbar, you really need to read and listen carefully

by Q on

I just disagreed.
Oh please....

First of all he did not and was not even talking about the artists in general.

I wrote you exactly what his point was, in my last comment:
1. Iranians and the media are ignorant of southern Iranian music and value it less
2. Iranians and Iranian media in general value western influence more than Iranian.

Also. there was no reference to Criticizing western influence at all That is something You wish to extract and pull outta it.

LOL.

Listen to Part 2 from 9:05. He uses a specific example to show what he's talking about. He says if some accomplished master plays Sorna (Persian flute), versus some amature playing Flûte traversière, the people will think the guy playing the Western instrument is of a higher class, even if he is horrible. He continues saying if someone plays the Piano, like the people who advertise all over Tehran, that person is seen as having higher worth than those playing traditional Iranian instrument. He says the same thing about the Guitar saying "noone sheklesh mikhoreh", meaning it is only popular because it's western.

Later, he refers to the Kronos Quartet and says if that group chose to adopt or jam with an Iranian musician it would be front page news all over the world (meaning iranian media would find it worthy and praise it because it involves the prominant Western group).

This is all very obvious, Mash Ghanbar, how could you have possibly missed it?

Are you one of those people who physically becomes deaf when there is something they don't want to hear?

So much for you "point 1".

That is your specific and particular, propagandizing way of looking at this issue. You are denying the huge popularity of this show among the vast majority both in iran and in the western community.

What is my "propagandizing" way of looking at it? It is a satire as you say, so "clown show" is appropriate. I haven't seen any evidence that more people look at this show in Iran than they do outside of Iran. But even if that was true, many people love watching bad American movies and pop music videos, so a "clown show" could be popular but not as seriously, not as news, and therefore not an effective way to do anything about the kind of injustices the show supposedly cares about. So it functions just like MTV and Hollywood, i.e. American propaganda.

Wishful thinking on my part?? LOL. Ok!! He said that just the same way any typical iranian who believes in conspiracy theories would say.

Yes. Wishful thinking. You said he "corrected himself". He did not, so you were wishful thinking, or perhaps deluding yourself.

This is not meant to be a serious news program. How a supposedly self-declaring roshan fekr has not GOTTEN this so far, is really amazing.

You think I called myself "roshan fekr" ? Maybe you should read more carefully.

This has nothing to do with what America claims to stand for.

Now you are just being ignorant. VOA is an American tax-payer funded service. It has stated values, one of which is to communicate American values. The tag line on VOA literature says "trusted source of news and information since 1945".

It is like expecting getting fair and balanced views on Jon stewart show.

Jon Stewart isn't charging US tax payers for his show, and has no mission to provide "trusted source of news and information" to anybody.

You get it now?


Parthianshot91

irritating guy

by Parthianshot91 on

I like the pipes and stuff, but not his singing, it makes me wanna stab myself in the ear :(

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