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Comparing

Let us not to forget that Hejab [burgha]
is not just another article of clothing, it is the most outward symbol of a
religion which is portrait as violent and oppressive, hence, mistrusted, and
misunderstood, in the Western countries, and justifiably so. Comparing it to other
cultural/ethnicity symbols is like comparing Fleur-de-Lis to swastika.

Top 10 reasons you should not wear burka, veil, tent, carton, ..

abba, jabeh, boshkeh, etc.

1) They limit your peripheral vision causing you fall into manholes, run over by cars, and many other accidents...

2) They may  get stuck in the escalators causing harms and possibly death

3) They may get stuck in between the elevator doors causing suffocation

4) They may be perceived as hiding bombs

5) They may collect heat in the middle of summer causing death through heath exhaustion

6) They are eyesores

7) They may not easily come off when you get into a bathroom stall

8) They may cover your nice and curvy shape depriving men from watching you

9) They may cause suffocation in case of self-generated gas

10) Finally, not all Muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are Muslims

VPK

"If one of them punches you who do you describe them to police!" 

I usually use odor and voice since I am not good at faces.  When did France become too worried about being punched by a muslim woman? Really, when?  Timing is important in here.  In this case I believe in cultural discriminatory factor, even not a religion or security.

I really know the difference between a scarf and a cross. 

Condemn reglious/cultural police in Iran, France and every where

Mehrdad:

 Every society has rules and regulations, stemmed from historical/religious/cultural values of that society.

People speak, and set up those rules, usually.

 I don't have any problem with people of Bitsuana live one way,and obey certain rules, and people of France live another way, and obey other rules.

But these rules, bear in mind, have to be set up by the people of THAT land:

The French police enforces what people of France want, the Saudi police enforces what the Saudis want.

Does the Iranian morality police enforce what the Iranian people want?

Burka and women rights

The same country that forces her to take her burka off, also protects her human rights.

- Gives her all the rights that the men enjoy and freedom to follow a life of her choice whilst protecting her from male relatives’ chauvinistic attitudes.

- Gives her a good chance of custody of her children in case of a divorce.

- Gives her the fair share of the wealth that the man has accumulated during the marriage in case of a divorce.

- All other rights that women don't have in various Islamic countries including ridiculous things such as driving, travelling, booking a room in a hotel, smoking, ...

You have the choice lady, nighab and a backward country and no women rights, or no nighab and a secular democracy and women rights. Choose.

Mehrdad

You do not have to worry about a free Iran; we had one. When Shah was running Iran did Muslims get persecuted: No! So please don't give me that ***. This woman is full of it and is getting what is right.

Yes we may not ban people from putting on makeup and fake beards. But we may at least ban outright masks. Try getting through any security with a fake makeup: it won't work. I really do not understand why you and others defend this ***.

France has the right to protect its culture and burka is not it. They do not want it and do not want people who wear it. For one I applaud them for it. She obviously does not fit in France so why is she there? How about some respect for her host nation.

RG

we don`t want her here, saudi arabia is the best place for her

FREE IRAN

She should leave the Kuffar land of France for Iran

And wear her Hijab with absolute pride. There is desparate need for women  like her who choose rather than being forced to wear Hijab in the islamist utopia. Otherwise she is well advised to obey the laws of her country of chosen residence in return for all the goodies which come with living in a secular democracy.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

good work by french police,

good work by french police, i wish they did the same here in Australia...

btw she screams like a Khar.

After reading all the comments here,,,

If the IC users are going to be a sample of what is supposed to be for the future of Iran with regards to promotion of freedom and democracy, I am far more worried about the future of Iran then France.

Simple facts are that this law was not written in response to security issues, but cultural. A person wearing extreme sun glasses, fake beard, outrageous make up all simply to hide his/her face is not banned, but Burka is.

If we are going to argue about law of land and culture, then we have no room to criticize IRI for its ridiculous attire restrictions or like JJ said all those strange looking Indian, Ortodax Jews, Arabs, etc all should be round up and send back to their mother land.

Condemn reglious/cultural police in Iran, France and every where else.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Most of us Iranians here

Most of us Iranians here (if not all) are living in the Free World and outside Iran, Right? Why? Because we were told and shown the only way we could live in Iran was to observe and obey their Islamic Laws... Well, apparently we did not accept and ultimately forced to leave!

So aside from the LOGICAL SECURITY reasons in this case, if the woman is not willing to observe and obey the laws of FREE WORLD (in this case France) well, she should have never came there to begin with, let alone living there and imposing her way of life in public and to others... It's very simple!!! I just can't understand the double standards of some Iranians here who want it both ways!! and worrying about this woman's rights which by the way was not unfairly denied! In fact, she was respectably removed from public to set an example and enforce the laws of a Free land unlike our own Motherland, Iran in the hands of unfair and criminal islamists!!! 

I am not

very much amazed to see people here. Not seeing the difference of a mask and a turban; or a scarf or a cross. A mask hides your face if you have not noticed! It is a security matter.

Of course the Islamist mind is incapable of grasping this. Hence the ridiculous analogies with cross or turban or beard. Keep at it folks you are doing well. Proving to the world how well you fit in the real world. No wonder many people dislike Islam.

So, what's next? Forcing Indian Sikhs to take off the socks they

wear around their heads! Or, forcing Akhoonds to take off their ammamehs and abbas and shaving their beards off...? Actually not a bad idea!

Thank you France for displaying your testicular fortitude!

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Just checked on you-tube:

10 "likes" & "0" dislikes for this video!

Maybe

she is so ugly and doesnt want anybody see her. Women wearing chador dont care about their hyegiene and what is covered under the chador. As my grandmother talked about Reza shah's kashfe hejab, ln those days they used to wear tomoon and piran bolandi that wasnt  very match and they did not want anybody see them like that. When they would go out, they used to wear black socks over the tomoon in case their legs showed from undeneath the long chador.

To the backward women who wear burqa in the west

  You can not have it both ways

   You  want to live in the western world and enjoy the fruites of freedom , and modernity and yet , you want to hang on to the outdated, anachronistic,  mysogynistic traditions imposed on you by your  male dominated cultutres .

Sorry .....you have to make a choice

   GO LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA , AND YOU WILL HAVE THE FREEDOM TO SEEK.

  Do not live in Paris ....live in Samereh, Kazemine, Jaddah, Madinah, kabul, ....oh you have so many choices......

Freethought111 is right

mostly right anyway. If you just check out nuns you will see them wearing cloths just like chador. Furthermore Sassanid wealthy women used to have a face cover. This was to prove their high class. In time it was imitated by lower classes to prove they were "as good". 

So for once I do no even think hijab or at least bruhka is an Islamic requirement. It was an influence that got in through Christian and Sassanids.

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I feel bad for the women

I feel bad for the women either they have forced to dress Islamic cover or forced to take them off but I am just wondering. I am sure if this lady so believer in Islam why she wants to live among countries that base on Islamic law consider corrupted. There are so many Islamic country such as Arab Saudi or any Arabic country or African countries that she can live with her burka with no problem. I am just wondering why some people live so miserable. Why can't she live in middle of Saudi and i am sure no one would force her to take off her burka.

Burka is a symbol like

Burka is a symbol like Kippah and cross.  It happened to cover the face instead of covering one's head. 

You got to be joking. Burka covers your face and is a security risk. If people want to wear a symbol of Islam they should wear an "Allah". Maybe a head scarf not a mask. Do you not get the difference? Going around in a mask is not a religious right.

I am not even going to address the oppression issue which is valid. But just the security one. How do you like a bunch of masked men coming into your store? If one of them punches you who do you describe them to police!

Yes

And Fatima Mernissi proves this to be the case, i.e. that the imposed hejab is a foreign practice to the early Muslim community and was a later imposition by a patriarchal Arab male elite. In fact, the true locus of the imposed hejab in Islam comes from Eastern Orthodox Christianity and Zoroastrian practices of the time. Read the book to see what Mernissi has to say and the irrefutable evidence she puts forth.

Will of men who have forced Islamic Hejab on women?!

I really don't think so.  There are unlimited number of bastard women with Islamic hijab and power?  I really don't think only males have to be blamed in here.

Are we suppose to compare eveything? We have naked beaches.  Do we have Burka beaches? 

Burka is a symbol like Kippah and cross.  It happened to cover the face instead of covering one's head. 

Can a women walk in the street naked?

I oppose any kind of head covering because it is not about
choice; it represents submission mostly to the will of men who have forced Islamic
Hejab on women. Issues arising from veiling that keep popping up every day do
nothing but to create more resentment and distract us from paying attention to
important issues. I think if Muslim women want to live in a modern country,
they have to respect their laws and norms, and assimilate into its popular
culture. Veiling has nothing to do with religious beliefs, dignity of a person,
or nonsense claim of shielding men from promiscuous temptations. It is an
instrument of oppression and control imposed by men. I believe Muslim women
could be successful without their veil.

Here is my question for those who support Burgha as freedom
of choice. Can a women walk in the streets naked and not being arrested? If not
what is the difference?

Really out of the box JJ.

Really, what's the difference between harassing women in Iran, France and worse in the Ashraf camp and Nazis concentration camps.

Rules are more complicated than how we percieve them.  There are rules all around the world.  The question is what to obey.  Are we supposed to obey whatever governments rule us?  In the US or Canada financially disadvantage people usually obey the "routine" laws less than others.  Are we suppose to pick 90% of prisoners/inmates from such a disadvantage group?  Human rights is for everybody.

Dear DK

Le Pen is a racist idiot. 

France Far Right Le Pen Not entirely against Veil & Supports IRI

Jean Marie Le Pen at the Zahra Center in Paris for the celebration of the 30th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution (12 février 2009):

Le Pen Soutient Gaza & l'Iran‏ - YouTube

NOTE: The Lady doesn't seem to be Iranian contrary to what the video seems to suggest but rather North African but supportive of the Islamic Republic

And Strangely Le Pen's fairly Lukewarm opposition to the Burqa Ban:

//www.dailymotion.com/video/x9o7h7_fn-le-pen-iran-burqa-election-inter_news

Wearing a mask

is not a right it is a violations of rights of others. No one is going to tell me they have a right to walk around with a mask. How do I know who they are. Here is USA we have "wanted" posters. A great way to get around it is to wear a mask. Cheaper than plastic surgery and just as good! 

If you want a hijab then wear a scarf. I would not support banning scarfs no reasonable person would. In fact Pierre Cardin would throw a fit! 

How do I know the person behind the mask is a woman? Not a murderer running from a victim. You know it did happen in Iran. We have had cases when men dressed up in Chador to escape the law. Just read our history.

PS:

I do not wear my Veil when I go to work even though I am VPK!

Veiled Prophet :-)

While in Rome, do as Romans....

Saudi Arabia, belongs to Saudis. They have their own laws, and they choose their way of life.In Saudi Arabia, women, by law, have to cover up. It is rooted deeply in their culture and traditions. Even without the enforcement by the moral police, most Saudi women, I suppose, keep covering up( unlike Iran, where the moral police is constantly in battle with Iranian women).

Foreign, liberated women, who do not want to be subjected to that Islamic/Saudi "culture", just don't live there. The international community doesn't push it much either, because the typical Saudi woman is fine with the status quo.

France, belongs to French. They have their own laws, and they choose their way of life.In France, women ,by law, cannot cover up. Equality of the sexes is part of their culture. Muslim women who want to cover your face, should  just pick another country (say Saudi or afghanistan) to live in.

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The ban in France is with regards to people covering their faces (niqab) which for security reasons is understandable. But I do hope they do not go further and ban hijab which would be an infringement of freedom of choice and freedom of religion.  If they do decide to go down that route and say it is protecting women from oppression, there is no way of knowing when a woman is forced to wear it (the men are being punished) or when she wears it by choice (the woman is punished). A person who chooses to dress in a certain way would not seem to be the victim of oppression-even if others might not approve of her choice. If some women are willing to freely expose lots of flesh in public, then some woman would want to cover up much more.While I am not religious, I do recognize the importance of the freedom of faith and its expression.  If Muslim countries do not allow such freedoms they are in the wrong and we should not want to be like them. Furthermore, a ban on hijab would reinforce the Islamist claim that society is picking on Muslims. People who don't wear it would take it up as a political cause.

Good for France

French finally growing some balls.