Professor Abbas Edalat, founder of the Campaign Against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran (CASMII), speaking at Stop the War Coalition's public meeting 'Don't Attack Iran' on Monday 5th December 2011 in Conway Hall, London.
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by iraj khan on Sun Dec 11, 2011 08:58 AM PSTpassionate plea and warning to the ones who are itching for a fight with Iran. There are elements inside Cameron's ruling elite who want a fight with Iran.
There's as much passion expressed by him as the 'Regime Change faction' expresses against Iran's government.
This highly emotional state is a major source of confusion among Iranians living in U.S. too.
Iranian Americans have their own issues regarding their lives here. According to the latest survey (The Pubic Affairs Alliance of Iranian Americans (PAAIA) commissioned Zogby Research Services conduct the survey):
"by far the greatest number of Iranian Americans (63%) cite the promotion of human rights and democracy as the most important, followed by thirty percent (30%) who cite the promotion of regime change."
And:
"Only three percent (3%) of Iranian Americans favor a military option against Iran."
//www.paaia.org/CMS/paaia-releases-2011-national-survey-of-iranian-americans.aspx "
Dear VPK,
by Anahid Hojjati on Thu Dec 08, 2011 08:38 AM PSTEdalat; as one commentator noted, never talks about labor strike or the jailing of labor activists. So he is not a leftist. Hopefully US does not base decisions on his opinions or those similar to it. I am also anti war but my positions are close to those stated in this link:
//iranian.com/main/2011/dec-9
Dear Vildermose & Anahid
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Thu Dec 08, 2011 08:31 AM PSTHonestly I would hope USA bases its decision on more important things. Not on what some rude guy says.
Anahid jan: Indeed, that
by vildemose on Thu Dec 08, 2011 08:10 AM PSTAnahid jan: Indeed, that ship has sailed. couldn't have said it better myself. Excellent.
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Dear Vildemose,
by Anahid Hojjati on Thu Dec 08, 2011 08:10 AM PSTsomeone on this thread noted that this guy was talking about urgent threat of war back in 2008. I found that too. a quick google of his name, came up with his speeches in 2007 about urgency of threat of war against Iran. from that time, Iranians have not been killed, raped and put in prison by westerners but by IRI people. How can Edalat and people like that have any credibility? don't they see how idiotic they look when they write article after article and they also have speeches also about threat of west while Iranians are the ones who have been killing Iranians? I believe people like Edalat are happy to be known as activist, no regard for Iran's future, some of other activists used to write against IRI and that is how they got famous but now they write about threat of war. I think some made their peace with IRI so they can travel back home and eat chelokab and god knows what. that is fine for them but please don't act like you are an activist. that ship sailed.
Anahid jan: That's an
by vildemose on Thu Dec 08, 2011 08:01 AM PSTAnahid jan: That's an understatement. But I don't even care about his upbringing. The fact is that this man indirectly is damaging and paving the way for another needless war. He is not talking about reconciliation or solution. He is on a tired old soap box without realizing the ramifications of his idiocy just like his paymasters. They have been shouting the same garbage for 32 years and have not gotten anywhere.. I don't know when they are going to stop and take some responsibility for their own actions...This man seems to be destructive force and part of the problem not the solution. He also seems to be self-destructive living with so much hate-filled anger and emotion.
I wish people like him would just stop because they have nothing to offer to broker Peace to any party. The man has no peace himself...How can he be agent of peace??
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why is he shouting?
by Anahid Hojjati on Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:04 AM PSTDisappointing.
خدا این آقای عدالت را زنده نگه دارد
Seyyed-Ali-KhameneiThu Dec 08, 2011 07:30 AM PST
بسمه تعالی
واقعا که این فرزند راستین انقلاب، این چریک فدای کمونیست سابق و طرفدار نظام مقدّس جمهوری اسلامی امروز چه فداکاریهای برای این نظام انجام میدهد. حنجره خودش را هر روز برای این نظام مقدّس پاره میکند. اونهم برای چی؟ فقط و فقط برای اینکه ما به ایشون و خانوم نیلوفر پارسی قول محکم دادیم که اسرائیل را از صفحه روزگار محو خواهیم کرد. بر حسب العنوان بنده شخصا در یک ضیافت چلو کباب و ماهی دودی در بیت رهبری این قول را به رفیق عدالت دادم. راستی ایشون اصرار بر این داشت که اون را رفیق خطاب کنیم. علیای حال، پس از اینکه خبر محو شدن قریب الوقوع رژیم ملعون صهیونیست را شنید، رفیق عدالت اینقدر ذوق زده شد که سیخ کباب کوبیده را زمین گذشت و راهی بیت الخلأ شد-البته نمیدانام به چه منظور. پس از رجوع از بیت الخلأ و با لبخندی ژوکند در صورت، رفیق عدالت بعیت خود را با نظام مقدّس جمهوری اسلامی تأیید و تجدید کرد. خداوند سایه او را از سر ما کم نکند.
السّلام و علیکم و رحمت الله و برکاته
IRI is not going anywhere anytime soon....
by AMIR1973 on Thu Dec 08, 2011 03:57 AM PSTUnless there is significant outside assistance for a domestic uprising that includes armed, economic, and political components (along the lines of Libya and Syria, more or less). As long as they have access to their petrodollars and have a monopoly on weapons, the mullahs and IRGC animals will easily be able to contain any opposition for the foreseeable future.
No Israel attack
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:26 PM PSTIt doesn't matter what this guy is saying
by Siavash300 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:08 PM PSTThe war and Israel attack is inevitable in order to protect their own citizen. It is just a matter of time. The target would be primarily nuclear sites and Basij, and revolutionary guards with the least causualty of civilians.
The reason is the stupid statement that monkey who call himself "Iran president" made not long ago. The monkey said "Israel should be wiped off the map" . That bold, mindless threat is the source of Iran's problem. That statement is the focus of international community. Israel will take action sooner or later against these Islamic criminals who occupied Iran for last 32 years and brought misery and death, execution and destruction to our nation. It doesn't matter what this guy in the above video or others are saying. War is coming and it has to be blamed on that monkey and his stupid speech. Soon we will see the death of our brothers and our sisters in Iran for the sake of lizard eater arabs in Gaza. How dumb is that sounds? but it is reality and some of our ANN tellectual are supporting that idea. I am shocked how these people achieved their univeristy degree? These are typical Anntellectual from third world country. Funny part is with such idoits on power, many Iranians keep blaming outsiders for their predicaments and their misery. They are not able to see what role these idiots are playing to shape the future of their country.
It would be much more helpful if Mr.Edalat would have demonstrated how to get rid of these stinky mullahs who sucked the blood of our nation for last 32 years. Mullahs contribution to Iran history are their sperms. One of them has 16 sigheh.
Dore Gold, the political advisor of Isareli foreign policy, explained that fact very clearly in his book :"The rise of nuclear Iran". No way to allow these Islamic criminals reach nuclear power. The monkey open his stupid mouth and put lives of milliion Iranians in danger. That monkey has to blamed, not the reaction of the Israel who is trying to survive among 27 arab nations.
Sincerely,
Siavash
Bavafa jan
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Dec 07, 2011 09:48 PM PSTThis statement of yours...
We need not a reminder that in both Hitler or US case, they were at the position of strength and aimed to destroy the weak opponent, whereas in IRI case they can hardly counter and contain their own domestic opposition, never mind wanting to invade and over take other nations.
Literally sent shivers down my spine! Cracked me up! I don't know,... COmbination of both... something like thatWould you be willing to sign this statement and make the whole thing look official??:) Are you kidding me?
I sure wish you had brought forward some proof regarding the claim that they have demonstrated incapabilty/ weakness/ vulnaribilty even in taking things under control domestically.
Please I am all eyes:))
That old saw again ..
by Joubin on Wed Dec 07, 2011 09:39 PM PSTIf you actually believe that the Iranian nation would "indefinitely" put up with tyranny and lies, then clearly you have nothing but contempt for current and future Iranians.
I entirely disagree with your contemptuous consideration of Iranians. Even Zahak was finally kicked out.
And if I may be forward, it should be noted that it is entirely possible that your implied lack of morality and valor of the Iranian people is likely based on your own condition.
The CASMII lobby is also "anti-sanctions", not just "anti-war"
by AMIR1973 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 08:56 PM PSTBasically leave the IRI alone and if Iranians wanted to do something about the IRI, they would have already done it by now. After all, "khastan = tavanestan". The "anti-sanctions" policy promoted by the NIAC and CASMII lobbies is a perfect prescription for Iran to be ruled indefinitely by the Islamist terrorist regime.
Please everyone must watch
by vildemose on Wed Dec 07, 2011 07:44 PM PSTPlease everyone must watch this to the very end. So informative.
//vimeo.com/33319402
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by Joubin on Wed Dec 07, 2011 07:37 PM PSTIf even a single hair on the most retarded and vile koor o kachal Irooni is harmed by Ajnabee, it will be vendetta. If a single Flower of Arya is cut down, entire fields of Ajnabee weed shall be mowed down.
(1, 10, 100, 1000 years -- however long it takes.)
Hands off Iran Zameen.
And as to IRI and Qom Inc.: How many millions of Iranians are there? Let them rise and follow the Ahangar, if they are indeed oppressed and if indeed there are still IRANIAN MEN living in Iran. I tend to think a substantial chunk of the koor and kachal actually like being ridden like kharaan.
So be it.
This guy is not a "Peace Activist"
by Artificial Intelligence on Wed Dec 07, 2011 07:35 PM PSTHe still talks about the glorious revolution
He still talks about the non existent American Imperialism
Fails to mention Russia's & China's opportunism in the situation
Fails to mention that the "8 year" IRI Iraq war was 8 years because Khomeini prolonged it on purpose
Blames everything on the West, America, Zionists, Israel......
Does not talk about any of the IRI crimes and activities which have lead to the current state of affairs.
Fails to mention all IRI's Arab neighbors who would love to see it gone
A peace activist would not talk this nonsense!
He is a traitor to the Iranian people as his actions prolong the existence of the IRI regime.
CASMII is a PRO war entity! IRI's war on the Iranian people.
As I said before, Mr.
by vildemose on Wed Dec 07, 2011 06:40 PM PSTAs I said before, Mr. Edalat needs to talk to his paymasters and then act as a responsible honest peace broker if he wants to taken seriously instead of petulant rabid islamist. He is not going to achieve anything by his arbadeh keshi.
There are thousands of people who voice their anti-war sentiments against the war with Iran. Thousands of people in solidarity with the political prisoners in Iran and war against Iran participated in OWS. Have we ever seen any rallies or panels discussing the warmongering of IRI and the extension of war by Khomeini to prolonge its livelihood?? Has there ever been panel discussing the warmongering of IRI anywhere??
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Dear vildemose: I suspect you already know my position about IRI
by Bavafa on Wed Dec 07, 2011 06:25 PM PSTHence I do not need a reminder about the nature of IRI and its crimes against Iranian people. Moot point I may say.
However you seem to be needing a reminder that war has not been politicized by me but by the politicians especially those in the US. It is hardly a day go by that we hear expert and credible analysis that often finds a necessity for war with Iran by Obama admin in order to win the second round. Why is it that some feel obliged to condemn one side yet turn a blind eye to the other side is beyond me.
As for your question about the recklessness of other nations, of course I believe that they would be reckless if they dismiss a thread by Iran entirely, just as it would be reckless to manufacture a thread for political/economical reason. At the same token, as much as I hate IRI, I believe it would be equally reckless for them if they don’t take adequate measure to protect Iran and Iranians against thread from foreign adversaries. We do not need reminders that Iran is surrounded by countries armed with WMD.
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
Edalat at MIT
by bnamus on Wed Dec 07, 2011 06:19 PM PSTIn 2006 Abbas Edalat was also spewing the same garbage at MIT when he firsat formed this rag tag committee of ann-tellectuals and occidentalist students. Notice how he calls the revolution 'victorious' in the first 25 seconds of this talk. Also take a grand look at the microphone that is prominent and visible on the podium; it is the mic of one PRESS TV: the official english language propaganda television machine of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Abbas Edalat has never, not once, criticized the Iranian government for the terror that it distributes on a daily basis among its citizens. The Edalat's of the world function in a binary world, where you and I are made to choose between bombs or bread. I am here to say that it is quite possible to be both critical of the 32 year abomination of a nation that Iran has become, and also reject a military attack on Iran. IT IS POSSIBLE do not let people like Edalat make you choose sides.
Bavafa: Only a treasonous
by vildemose on Wed Dec 07, 2011 05:53 PM PSTBavafa: Only a treasonous and diabolical government would want war on its people just to solidify its position to continue raping and pillaging.
What is itching for a "little" war??? Khomeni just wanted to continue the war just a 'little' more and many people lives were lost and forever changed including mine. Please do not politicize war. Even one life lost is too many. And no, I don't believe its entirely for domestic consumption....do you think Israel and the US would not be reckless in their duties to protect their own people if they ignored these threats simply as rhetoric for political consumption..
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Dear OnlyIran: Re. your good cop/bad cop analogy.…
by Bavafa on Wed Dec 07, 2011 05:34 PM PSTI believe the good cop/bad cop playbook by IRI is more for the domestic audience rather than its international affairs. While I agree IRI is itching for a [limited] war with the West primary to preserve and garner domestic support and ensure its existence, your example of Hitler or the US orchestrating a skirmish in order to justify a broader war hardly fits the IRI situation. We need not a reminder that in both Hitler or US case, they were at the position of strength and aimed to destroy the weak opponent, whereas in IRI case they can hardly counter and contain their own domestic opposition, never mind wanting to invade and over take other nations.
As for the idea of the “West residing mouthpiece” I have no doubt there are plenty of them who undoubtedly are in it for a personal gain yet grouping everyone who take a stand against war as the IRI mouth piece takes any substance our argument may have. A fair and unbiased stand serves all of us much better.
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
Re the curse
by Arj on Wed Dec 07, 2011 04:24 PM PSTDear DDEP, I am one of those people who believe that the 1979 revolution was inevitable due to preceding circumstances! I also believe that Shah was betrayed by no one but himself from the moment he put his fate in the hands of the U.S an UK over the 28 Mordad coup (or as you monarchists claim "Uprising").
Nonetheless, I totally agree with the rest of what you said, for unfortunately, we as a nation are proving to be our own worst enemies! Although nearly all of us (except some ex-Iranians who have switchted their loyalties) have the best interests of Iran in mind and while yearning for a secular democratic Iran, do not wish to see it lay in ruines through attacks by forces who (despite what they claim) have no regards for the interests of our people and our land (yet naturally, their own interests).
That is why it is imperative for us (of all political inclinations) to keep our motherland from being the flaunting grounds for foreign troops and oil companies as have Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan, while at the same time preventing IRI from taking advantage of the situation! Blaming others for their past or present political positions that don't suit our taste would only perpetuate the dire circumstances we're currently in and have been for decades!
Correct for the most part
by Rastgoo on Wed Dec 07, 2011 03:42 PM PSTAs much as we all hate the IRI and hope to see it fall, we must keep in mind that the whole nuclear issue with Iran is a red herring. The whole issue is about Israeli domination in the ME and their complete domination of US ME foreign policy at the least and the global banking system at the most. It is Iran's right to have a peaceful nuclear industry, regardless of its vast oil reserves and the sheepish media's constant misinformation against their intentions. I wish he would deliver his points more calmly so as to not degrade their validity. Make no mistake, a war with Iran will be devastating for Iran (civil war, territorial disintegration), the region (destroyed oil fields throughout the Persian gulf region), tens of thousands of dead Iranians due to the radioactive fall out, thousands of Israeli deaths due to Iranian retaliation on their nuclear sites, global economic depression due to the rising oil prices, etc.
We all want to see the IRI deposed but the end does not justify the means. Let's hope that cooler heads will prevail in this conflict or the regime is toppled soon.
Edalat predicting imminent attack on Iran by April 1, 2008!!!!
by Onlyiran on Wed Dec 07, 2011 03:44 PM PSTThanks to IranFirst for the link:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqQllGUSsKA
Watch the video. He also says that we shouldn't criticize the Iranian regime outisde of Iran!!!
And also to answer Bavafa's comment, which is a very simple response:
Just like any other warmongering government, the IRI has a good cop / bad cop policy. It is intent of starting a great war in the region. But it obviously does not want to portray itself as a warmonger (again, just like any other warmonger government). So, it has its West residing mouthpieces potrary it as victims of other's aggression. Hell, even Hitler used this tactic. Remember how he started the attack on Poland in WWII? It fabricated a scenario saying that Germany was attacked first. So, there's no surprise that we have IR supporting "peace advocates" and the warmongering IRI. Oldest trick in the book.
Galloway tops Edalat
by maghshoosh on Wed Dec 07, 2011 02:41 PM PSTGeorge Galloway was the last speaker at the above meeting:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IBT61gY-k&fmt=22
One among Many IRI Appologists and Criminals (list)
by IranFirst on Wed Dec 07, 2011 02:39 PM PSTClick on the names to read more about these traitors who support ALL IRI crimes.Please add more names to the list
Good news for khamenie's
by vildemose on Wed Dec 07, 2011 01:52 PM PSTGood news for khamenie's warmongers:
Newt Gingrich promises to name John Bolton Secretary of State//www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/07/1043182/-Newt-Gingrich-promises-to-name-John-Bolton-Secretary-of-State?via=siderecent
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I would like Mr. Edalat
by vildemose on Wed Dec 07, 2011 01:42 PM PSTI would like Mr. Edalat talk to Mr. Naghdi.
His enthusiasm for a conflict is all too apparent in the statements made by the head of Baseej, Commander Naghdi, just like the former head of IRGC, General Rahim Safavi, they are not talking about preparing for defence, they are talking about taking the initiative to attack:
There is pamphlet called the Final Six Months, widely distributed amongst the Baseej militia. The pamphlet is a prophecy of a huge imminent conflict which will bring about the return of the Lord of All Ages, the Hidden Imam. Would Mr. Edalat talke to these wonderful peaceful warriors.
//www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAtSmExUAWE
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How could anyone
by vildemose on Wed Dec 07, 2011 01:12 PM PSTHow could anyone supporting the criminal, anti-iranian, corrupt IRI be labeled as "patriot"??
LLI: Do you support IRI??? If you do, how dare you call yourself a "patriot"??
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