wfaa.com: GRAPEVINE, Texas — We're learning more about the Christmas Day massacre in Grapevine that left seven people dead. Police Monday revealed that the gunman was dressed in a Santa Claus outfit and waited until the presents were opened to kill the victims and then himself. Neighbors confirmed to News 8 the identities of at least four of the victims in the tragedy. Grapevine police say it was an apparent murder-suicide that took place right after a Christmas celebration, and say the shooter was wearing a Santa suit when he got out of his Toyota 4-Runner. A neighbor confirms the vehicle belongs to Aziz Yazdanpanah, the alleged shooter, who lived in nearby Colleyville. "Just a really nice guy, and whenever I saw him with his kids he was all about his kids," said neighbor Terri Baum. "He was the perfect neighbor." >>>
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Tragic Details
by Faramarz on Thu Dec 29, 2011 05:41 PM PSTI am not sure why this story disappeared from the site. Here are the recent updates.
//www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079686/Gr...
Bavafa, a reminder about speculation. :)
by comments on Wed Dec 28, 2011 06:28 AM PST(a) About speculation: in a Friends' episode, Phoebe's brother told Phoebe that all Phoebe's coworkers at Spa were whores. Phoebe said you have to be ashamed of yourself. THEY ARE NOT WHORE. Phoebe's brother replied: they are not whore now, but they will be when I tell my friends. :)
(b) Mental health: we live in a world if someone kills someone else (or himself) a court call them people with mental health problem so the jail is the best for their treatment. The only exception is soldiers who become mentally challenged members of our society AFTER they kill and welcome back home (they will be when I tell my friends :)).
p.s. please don't miss the Stuff video. Azealia Banks is great.
"It's not about what we believe. It's more about how we behave and influence." Comments
@Comments
by Tiger Lily on Wed Dec 28, 2011 06:11 AM PSTgetting used to being taken around on travels in your posts and spotting great well-thought out, original thinking, even though I might disagree.
Cool comments by comments.
Happy New Year to you too!
اخ که چقدر خر تو خره... دادا تو هم ول کن دنیا که کربلا هستش
"
//iranian.com/main/video/2011/no
Co ho ho
by Tiger Lily on Wed Dec 28, 2011 06:04 AM PSTproof that Coca Cola is a killer
P.S. you nerds over there with your guns. Jesuuuuuusss eEEEEEEEEeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaawwww
اخ که چقدر خر تو خره... دادا تو هم ول کن دنیا که کربلا هستش
"
//iranian.com/main/video/2011/no
Responses
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Wed Dec 28, 2011 05:51 AM PSTAs Kaveh has rightly said...
by Bavafa on Tue Dec 27, 2011 08:29 PM PSTunless you are connected to the family of the police dept. investigating this, it will ALL be speculations, but then again when was the last time such lack of knowledge keeps us from such wild speculation.
But don't let me stop you, carry on !!!!!
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
VPK
by comments on Tue Dec 27, 2011 08:28 PM PSTAs you probably observed I don’t exploit IC as an interpersonal communication tool. Therefore, I usually don’t apply comment-to-comment communication. I chunk multiple blogs and rarely a few comments because I like to understand what motivates an individual to initiate the specific blog. Some of them are brilliant in my opinion. I sometimes share my own story in my comments, and I try not to persuade others, or indicate whether what they are saying has any value.
I also strive to kick back from a particular theme or website for days or sometimes weeks because a human brain usually takes shortcuts. In a shortcut, one’s brain measures and compares ideas in order to make minimal changes to his thoughts, which usually become believes. I would really suggest watching "The Big C", a TV show. A person’s personalized biology influences his analysis power in a great extent. People (including me) are still lost in several basic concepts while they think that the concept is embarrassing or uncomfortable to discuss because it is too basic.
My previous comment was in an agreement with your comment indicating that mental health could have been the fellow’s issue. As well, I know that you don’t support a war, which is again in agreement with my comment. I usually don’t comment on politics. Killing people is not politics because it is not a negotiable subject to me.
"It's not about what we believe. It's more about how we behave and influence." Comments
Honor Killing
by Faramarz on Tue Dec 27, 2011 06:47 PM PSTThis is getting more bizarre!
"Aziz Yazdanpanah seemed to be losing control of his life in recent
months — his wife left him, his house was in foreclosure, and his
19-year-old daughter was dating a young man he didn’t like. Even so, the
58-year-old former real estate agent from Colleyville seemed to be
holding it together. Neighbors say he would smile and wave as he drove
through his middle-class neighborhood. Recently, he was seen raking
leaves in his yard.”
//a12iggymom.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/islamic...
Pictures of the Victims
by Faramarz on Tue Dec 27, 2011 06:31 PM PSTTragic.
//www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079034/Ch...
Too much ego for Iranian
by Norchi on Tue Dec 27, 2011 06:28 PM PSTToo much ego for Iranian male,muslim and whole middle east people.
.........
by yolanda on Tue Dec 27, 2011 02:05 PM PSTHe snapped!
Financial woes, marriage problem, and holiday blues (lonliness)!
Some people are vulnerable during holiday season!
That is just my speculation!
AR Pahlavi died on Jan 4, 2011
Unless
by Kaveh Nouraee on Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:34 PM PSTYou knew these people and knew firsthand the issues they were going through, anything said in this thread purporting to be the "reason behind this tragedy" is pure speculation.
And at this point, the reasons, whatever they may have been, are meaningless.
Comments
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:23 AM PSTThanks for yet another attempt to use a tragedy to score political points. No most of us are not asking for war with Iran. Those who are mostly ask for a war to oust IRI. Unless you think of them as the same; do you?
Now may we get back to the point. There are many blogs for example that of Faramarz about intervention. This is about a criminal act which I still do not know much of.
Datz vat i am tauking aboot
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:19 AM PSTDe problem vit your avatar though, remains the same, especially around lunch time, and my soft spot for cholo kabab. On that note; onward to Cholo kabab of the day (It's actually left over from last night, but it's still good).
P.S. " esstand at the head of the alley till i tell you"? Yaeini chi? Dozary nayoftad.
HTG jaan
by Dr. Mohandes on Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:11 AM PSTNo. I really have not seen any of those adds you mentioned? Jeddealy (seriously)? Re-ally... Empossebel (the roobah in shahre ghese )
I concur. It really can be a mess. Like vpk said it will be a while before we know what really went on.. but what a shame. But even though i know your stance on Capootaleezm:) i still tend to disagree with those who put the blame aassskuerly (squarely) on the poor old buddy of ours. I mean come ooon...
Who do dey teenk dey are keedeeng veeethhh??? dey teenk dey are smart? esstand at the head of the alley till i tell you!!!!
Mental health challenge.
by comments on Tue Dec 27, 2011 09:56 AM PSTA family died because of a health issue of an ex-member of their family. So what? Aren't several people at IC wishing for a war with Iran, which means they can't wait to see Iranians' dead body?
"The only mistakes you can learn from are the ones you survive"
Immigrants who connect or get closer with the culture have lower rate of mental or even physical health problems. That's the same for the future of their children's real success, which means lower vulnerability to depression in their adulthood.
Happy New Year to aLL. I think it's a bit late to say Merry Chirstmas or even the use of "merry". When was Chirstmas day/eve?
"It's not about what we believe. It's more about how we behave and influence." Comments
DM jaan, it's more like a combination of: short-fuse, loss of
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Tue Dec 27, 2011 09:58 AM PSTemployment, a foreclosed house, divorce,...And by no means is such crazyness unique to us.
Almost every year you read a violent christmas family story (mostly occuring in the US).
All these emotions just pile up, and then right on holidays, for some it just gets really bad. Haven't you seen all those adds on TV for special holiday counseling.
Do you have any real bad memories from holidays, ever? Something that pissed you off?
Vat i meess, most of all, eez your DMish Farsi'inglisi, though!
Crazy Capitalism You say??
by Dr. Mohandes on Tue Dec 27, 2011 09:30 AM PSTThe Oddest thing is that while taking pot shots and demonizing capitalism, some people totally forget that if it were not for IT!! they would not have been able to come on here and yell at the top of their lungs and enjoy the benefit of so many other great and wonderful ideas, brought to them by Capitalism.
grrrr.................
Blaming USA
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Dec 27, 2011 09:23 AM PSTis a cheap shot and yet another way to capitalize on a tragedy. A few people tried to turn this into a way to push the IRI agenda of trashing USA. I find it really insulting to the victims and readers.
PS: I do not mean Vildermose. Because I know her and specifically do not imply that in any way about her. But let us face it. People in Iran have it very bad too.
It is better to ait to get the facts before pronouncing judgement.
Merry Christmas,
VPK
British Guardian
by vildemose on Tue Dec 27, 2011 09:19 AM PSTBritish Guardian published 46 million Americans live in poverty.Land of the free, home of the hungry
//www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/27/1011043/-British-Guardian-published-46-million-Americans-live-in-povertyLand-of-the-free,-home-of-the-hungry?via=siderec
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
I think
by iamfine on Tue Dec 27, 2011 08:54 AM PSTI think financial problems played a big role here together with: May be his divorced wife had an affair, maybe he was not getting along with his children, cultural differences. All the above can contribute to this tragedy.
More than Ten million People in the USA
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Tue Dec 27, 2011 07:51 AM PSTSuffer from debilitating mental disease, without the ability to pay for healthcare, with no access to free mental health help like we have in UK, Holland, Sweden, Denmark. Can you smell the Freedom USA? Ahhhhhhhhhhh great, what a miracle, land of the free, home of the brave, slogans without thought.
With so much care, opportuity, freedom and compassion its surprising more people don't act like soul-less savages.
Hélas, it often happens during festive season
by Rea on Tue Dec 27, 2011 07:05 AM PSTThose who are lonely commit suicide while others, like this unfortunate man, kill their families (and then themselves).
One thing that makes me terribly angry when such tragedies occur is people who kill their own children. Sometimes I wish they survived and had to deal with it the rest of their lives.
Before you go
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Dec 27, 2011 06:57 AM PSTtoo far let us get the facts. Also blaming it as Pendar does on "Capitalism" is one big cheap shot. I lived here for over 30 years and never shot anyone. Nor do I know anyone who did or wanted to.
It may have been a mental disease or some other problem. Insanity is not a defense but a reality. People go nuts and when they do horrible things happen.
This is not America's fault. I still want to know the facts.
Very tragic indeed and may God bless the victims' souls!
by Oon Yaroo on Tue Dec 27, 2011 06:35 AM PSTNo one exactly knows what motivated the alleged murderer to commit such unbelievable act of violence.
The local news media is simply speculating on the family's financial difficulties and bankruptcy as a possible motive.
Many folks out there (Americans, Iranians, Mexicans, black, white, etc.) spent beyond their means during the housing bubble era and lost their jobs and had to declare bankruptcy and lost their homes etc.
But they didn't massacre their families. Instead, they somehow manged to make the ends meet.
They scaled down, cut excessive spending, got odd jobs here and there and whatever it took to keep them standing proud on their feet...
Now some ignorant poster's trying to take advantage of this tragic event and blame it on Capitalism and this and that is beyond me...!
I wonder how many tragic events such as this take place in the criminal IRR due to the Islamism...
No excuse he could have killed himself but spared his family
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Dec 27, 2011 06:27 AM PSTBloody Moron !
Tragic.........
by پندارنیک on Tue Dec 27, 2011 05:58 AM PSTIn a land where capitalism forecloses and democracy divorces, Santa goes on a shooting rampage.........
Or something like that.........
I also wonder if "culture shock" plays a part in such acts of desperation.
Sad, really sad...........
Very Tragic!
by Maryam Hojjat on Tue Dec 27, 2011 05:24 AM PSTHow tragic! and poor Iranians who have so much problems in this land of freedom & opportunety.
Wrong Script ...
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Dec 27, 2011 05:14 AM PSTle père noël est une ordure :
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WEx7_3lWQ