Christopher Hitchens: Iran and Iranians

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Ensan, that definition is from Erich Fromm, not me. Have you

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rean any of his works.

He is not so easy to dismiss, at least not as easy as dismissing me!


Ensan

My Dear Darius

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Humanity did not get where it is today for being able to paint and sell cars. Ask yourself what Molavi or Ferdosi, or, Hafez, or Sadee, or Gangavee, or Nasarkhosroh, Iraj Mirza, or Sohrab Sepehree, Fouroog or Saidi-Sirjani have contributed to humanity, and then you understand what Hicthen's contribution is!!!

 


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Dear Ensan

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And I asked you to summarize what did he say or do that effected our present society?I just wanted to know what you learned from him? Isn't he a better verson of Bill O'reily? Isn't he some sort of a version of man  in Farsi we call " Mitoone Kharo rang koneh be jaye bozghale befrooshe?"  I know ,my comments may upset you and I receive  a similar response to what REDEWine got from you . Anyhow, I am really forward to see you explain his world of humanity and enlighten me. Thanks and Cheers 

Ensan

To Hooshang

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So is astrology and furtune telling. If faith means to let go of reason, I do not need it. Just keep it for yourself. I suggest you read Bertrand Russells "Tea Pot" story. I think that should summarize your point of view in a nut shell.

 


Ensan

To Darius

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His prolific written and verbal battle against human-made systems of a totalitarian or dictatorial nature places him among such characters as Paine, Voltaire, Russo, Sarter, and Hume. I did not personally agree with all of his views, but I have always admired those who promot free thinking and logic as the means of deciding the path one may take. His contibution to humanity is his pen and verbal skills  which will be read and learned by thousands in the future. I suggest you read some of his work. If I may, I suggest you to start by "Thomas Paine's Rights of Man", then you will realize what a fantastic writter and thinker he was.


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To have faith means to dare, to think the unthinkable, yet

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to act within
the limits of the realistically possible; it is the paradoxical hope to expect
the Messiah every day, yet not to lose heart when he has not come at the
appointed hour. This hope is not passive and it is not patient; on the contrary,
it is impatient an active, looking for every possibility of action within the
realm of real possibilities. Least of all it is passive as far as the growth and
liberation of one's own person are concerned....

//www.infed.org/thinkers/fromm.htm


Red Wine

Ensan ... You've read

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Ensan ...

You've read what I wrote?I am talking about faith . I know myself and I have found the God in my mind and my heart, my faith comes after many years of studying, reading, and have experience of living and working in many countries.

 Believing in God is something personal and to believe in God requires one to know himself.

 Thank you for your attention.


Ensan

To Red Wine

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Gullibility and credulity are considered undesirable qualities in every department of human life--except religion.--Christopher Hitchens

If you are just doing good because of God, I am very sorry for you. If you expand your knowledge, you may come across a quote by a great man named Abraham Lincoln who said, " When I do good, I feel good, and when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion." The rest is none sense. P.S. I do not dislike everything about you, I think your name "red wine" is fantastic. Maybe you should read some Khayam. Perhaps he may get the point across.


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آتئیسم میراثی است که ارزش جنگیدن را دارد

Hooshang Tarreh-Gol


Or a homage to Christopher Hitchens, one of all times best essayist in the English language. Though towards the end of his life he went for the deep end, and paid the price for it, in his earlier writings that pen was just Angelic.

Despite all the BS he says in here, as almost everyone else has noticed as well, to the end of his life he remained an atheist.

The amount of whisky this man individually consumed in one session, would have put out an entire pub with alcohol poisoning. The only other writer that drank as much might have been, might have been Charles Bukowski! Hitchens in his earlier years, and as a true drunk shall be missed.

His essays in the American journal the Nation, throughout the 80's remains some of the best for that decade.

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آتئیسم میراثی است که ارزش جنگیدن را دارد

//www.hafteh.de/?p=24223

 


Red Wine

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Ensan

Don't scream like a child!

Who can not respect the opinions of others can not understand the visions of a person of faith, faith in God means many things, you do not understand because you have not seen anything in your life,You talk like a person who has done nothing positive in his life and has never helped people.

You have not traveled, you have not seen anything, You have not seen bad people and good people, you have lost everything in life in this way, believing in God is the right way. you are in the wrong way.leave us alone and talk for yourself.


Disenchanted

Hitchen will be missed!

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      His was a complex mind, very articulate and intelligent. Seemingly all over the map as far as politcs goes. Wrong at times.

His views in the last two minutes of this video was PURE BS!

On the occasion of Jerry Falwell's death, Hitchen was interviewed by CNN. He said:"It's a pity there is no hell for him to g to"!

He will be missed!

 


alx1711

Not convertd to Islam-

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Not convertd to Islam- FORCED by Torture, Rape & sword to Islam. Other than that he very much nailed it!


Dr. Mohandes

khebedin

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IS that right?

SO i guess God must have been deep asleep and been dreaming of good stuff, not knowing and hearing Hitchens's ranting and ravings against religion and waited and waited until he hit 62!! right.

His death was not expected as i guess anyone's death who comes down with cancer!!! Gee. One medical miracle after another one. Amazing world we live in nowadays eh?:))

 


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Could You please

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Summarize some of his contirbution to humanity?

Thanks 


Ensan

Joe L. speak for yourself!!!

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He will be missed. His contributions to humanity are way above your comprehension level. I guess you do not like people you are smarter than you, Speak for yourself, not everyone else.


Ensan

Red wine

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Do not be sorry for Hicthens, he just passed away. Be sorry for yourself, who is breathing and is alive, but your mentallity is no better than a dead person. Angels!!! Demons!!!! How old are you? Have you even read any of his books? How can some one be so ignornat? Aha, religion is the pill you take to keep you ignorant. Grow up!


Ensan

Hitchens is not unfortunate, but you are ignorant!

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When you do not appreciate a free thinker who bases his argument  on evidence and logic, you seem to be the unfortunate one. You believe in the non-sense that religion feeds you, and you call Hictchen irrational!!! What an audacity or should I say what an ignorance!!! Grow up.


Bavafa

Dear Rea: Regarding Khoda va khodanashnas...

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You might enjoy this,  I certainly did and could not get enough of it.

And I certainly resonate with every bit of it.

 //iranian.com/main/2011/dec/saidi-sirjani-khodanashnas

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


G. Rahmanian

He Didn't Say Nuking Bahrain!

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He doesn't say a nuclear attack on Bahrain. He talks about the regime using its future nuclear capabilities to blackmail the states in the Gulf region!


Khebedin

Christopher Hitchens, an unfortunate person

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Christopher Hitchens’s visceral hatred of religion made him fall into an abyss of despair. He abhorred religion and considered anyone lining towards religion (Islam) ominous. You can clearly see this in his body language , not only in this interview but in all his interviews when talking about Iran and Islam.

 

In my view such a person can not be rational and is not worthy of consideration. His death was unexpected and is said to be as the result of hate. I am no taking side with any religion or idea, but having so much hate, that he always showed for religion and in particular with Islam, is just very unhealthy. Expressing views should not originate from hate. He abhorred Islam. He was an unfortunate person.

 


Rea

Wow, RW

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I envy you somewhat.

Wish I could believe myself. I tried realy hard. Didn't work.

Religious crap, that is what it is.


Red Wine

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Rea

It is not so simple, I do not believe in Any religion but I have faith, faith in God, I have seen his Hand, his miracles, His  Angeles and I saw God. When we die, we pay our debts and account for the things we have done on Earth.

I feel good when I die, because I believe in God and His hand will protect me.


Rea

Red Wine

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He is dead, as simple as that.

It's not gonna be any different for you. Or you think you gonna turn into Peter Pan ?


Red Wine

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Where is He now ? Would be in Heaven? Would be with the Angels,singing, dancing and drinking Holy Wine?

Where are those who believe in nothing? It is very cold up there, up there are living demons, Who will care about him?

I am very sorry for him. He's now alone. Just a memory and nothing else.


Rea

God is not great, neither Hitchens was

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But the latter stood up for what he believed in. The former never stood up for anything.

May he have calm seas. 


AMIR1973

When all else fails, call your opponents AIPAC/Zionist/Mossad

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Certain Palestine-obsessed individuals like to go around calling others "traitors", "AIPAC", "slaves", but then object to "labels". Go figure. 


vildemose

Icon of Reason

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There would be no one like him..though I sometimes did not agree with him.

 

 A state of war only serves
as an excuse for domestic tyranny.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Born December 11, 1918


Arj

What a pile!

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...of nonsense about IRI's nuclear intentions! To launch a nuclear attack on Bahrain?! Firstly, IRI's main objective in acquiring the nukes is to guarantee its survival so it can carry on its oppressive rule and plunder of Iran and its violations of our human rights without any need for accountability towards UN, HRW or related institutions! Secondly, if any actual target, I doubt if it would Bahrain and that it would actually require a nuclear holocaust to invade!


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One bright episode in his life: His defense of Salman Rushdi,

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back then, he was one of the few that had the courage and popularity to defend Rushdi and his book "Satanic Verses." But this and many other positive contributions of his were utilamtely buried under his defense of intervention.

Bavafa

"NIACollahis" -- LOL

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When all fails --> resort to labeling

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad