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Amirparviz I generally ignore you. But this time I am going to respond to your insult. I have realistic proposals vs. intransigent demands. Hype about resources got us here. It destroyed Mossadegh; then the Shah.

I say it again I gladly trade 50% of oil and gas for peace and freedom. You may take that definition of nokar and do whatever you want with it. Your approach failed; right now Iran is losing all the oil and gas.

Buying garbage from China and the price of Iraq war. Just to give you guys a false sense of pride. The whole thing makes me sick. Why don't you go scream "death to America" some more. You got your "independence". Move to Iran and enjoy it.

Bringing it back to Iran Bavafa...

Negotiating Away any Ownership with respect to Irans resources, oil, gas, copper, geothermal, etc. Is the definition of Nowkar, this is what "Adamayeh hesabi", rationalists or principalists are completely opposed to as they should be.  This is not Idealism, but the basics of law and reason..  The reason IRI is hated so much is due to the fruits of their rootless, worthless ideas which have Iran going backwards and 20% annual inflation, the IRI is the one mismanaging what economy it inherited and blowing away Irans rights and not defending Iran at all.  Hence why the West loves IRI.  Mullahs are Nowkars and have amply proven it.  Spending money on hamas/hezbollah when country is poor is a stupid waste.  But that sums up their thoughts, a stupid waste. 

Mehrdad

I am glad you are not in charge of any power and/or negotiation for Iran as you have already conceded 50% of Iran’s oil for the next 25 years for FREE as a charity to the US. 

If I was in charge of negotiations Iran would be rolling in cash right now. Iran would have recovered significant territory. Iranians would be treated like normal humans around the world.

I know you don't want people like me in charge. Because I am a realist and you are an idealist. I would drop Palestinians; Hizbollah and Hamas like a pile of ***. I put people above oil and gas. Iranian people were brainwashed by people like Mossadegh to feel entirety. To what: free money from oil out of ground. No wonder they fell for offers of Khiomeini. I would offer them the chance to build a like by working. No free money. And the concessions I offered buy a great deal.

You go your way and I mine. Go battle for Palestine or whatever is your thing. I will not be joining you.

More nonsense rhetoric

An oil boycott (which would mean China and other Asian countries voluntarily refusing to buy the IRI's oil, something they would never do in a thousand years) is dead in the water. Any supposed support for an "oil boycott" is just more nonsense rhetoric. 

HG aziz: Judging by your address to me “m.m.” ….

Perhaps we know each other and I am unaware of it :)

And I hope this helps you to make more sense out of my comment;

Just in case you are not familiar with my position regarding sanction, oil embargo and boycott, I have not been shy about expressing it and as early as just a few days ago discussed here

//iranian.com/main/2011/dec/no-oil-no-bomb

  A short excerpts below to confirm that we are in full agreement in regards to your statement

“most importantly, do you disagree that the only effective way to bring pressure on iri is by boycotting iri's oil sector?”

I wrote:

 “Nevertheless, an oil boycott not an embargo, which is an act of war and what he is suggesting to avoid, is the most peaceful and moral way to bring IRI regime to its demise.

Oil revenue has been the only blood line for this regime to survive, one may reasonably argue that it has been the only motivation thru massive theft for its leaders to keep this regime going.  Cutting down the source of only income will have a great and negative impact on its leaders and the direction they are headed.

  The West needs to put its principal ahead of its greed and establish a type of boycott of magnitude to their current sanction against IRI oil “

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Iran Jails Veteran

Iran Jails Veteran Opposition Figure

htp://www.rferl.org/content/iran_jails_veteran_opposition_figure/24436539.html

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

nonsense rhetoric

m.m. jan, can't make sense of what you just wrote:

"It would seem to be of a reasonable measure and expected from any nation should a hostile action, a military embargo, be put on its exports." 

are you talking about "sanctions" or a military embargo?  did i miss some news about military embargo on iri's oil?  and you failed to indicate what is a reasonable measure: thretening to close strait of hormoz? closing the strait of hormoz? going to war over closing strait of hormoz?

"One with a fair sense of justice, need to condemn all actions that is leading to war.  An illegal embargo, much as Israel has put on Gaza, is an act of war and any measured realiation would be just."

again, you're calling oil sanctions an embargo (at this point, i assume that it's a loppi mistake) or i'm missing some major news.  on one hand you're talking about actions that are "leading to war;" on the other hand, you're calling an illegal embargo "an act of war."  are you talking about israel vs. palestinians or iri vs. the world (minus russia and china)?

"Now, should IRI unilaterally and unprovoked begin by closing this passage, that would deserve also every one's condemnation and a measured retaliation by the international community."

Bravo.  do you mean if there were no sanctions (note, i didn't use the words military embargo as in gaza or cuba in the 60s) on iri and no threat of war against iri and everything was honky dory between iri and the the west and between iri and the arabs and all of the sudden iri decided to shut down the strait of hormoz "unilaterally and unprovoked," then there should be measurable action, as you say, taken against iri? if that's what you mean, i think it's sheer brilliance.  i certainly didn't even consider that scenario.

most importantly, do you disagree that the only effective way to bring pressure on iri is by boycotting iri's oil sector?

Starting new crisis has always been IR's method to deal with

domestic problems.

Starting with US Embassy takeover, up to now.

The difference this time, IR's economy is on the verge of total collapse, with no relief in sight.

As Majnon mentioned, more and more it looks like a suicide note.

Good source

In case of a war, things won't be as easy as some here hope:

//belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/18409/closing_time.html

VPK jaan: Since you are questioning the fairness in my comment…

Fairness and justice will come based on international law and public opinion.  If you have any doubt, you need to seek them for a consultation.

And to be “fair”, I am glad you are not in charge of any power and/or negotiation for Iran as you have already conceded 50% of Iran’s oil for the next 25 years for FREE as a charity to the US.

I won’t go into your other offers, perhaps just to sweeten the deal.  I suffice to say that I was glad, our mothers and sisters were not involved in that.

  With that said,   Happy new year to you and your family

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Boys n their toys

Lot of rhetorics, my gun is bigger than yours.

Comparing the two links ref. Admiral Sayyari's statement, europe1 and Washington Post, the wording is very much the same. But the most important part of his statement, ie. Hormuz stays open, is mising in the WP version. That's, among other things, why I trust European media more than I trust American, less war drumming.

Fairness

This idea of fairness drives me crazy because it is so subjective. There are plenty of things going on. Why should I pick one over the other? What is fair is subjective as is what is important. 

One with a fair sense of justice, need to condemn all actions that is leading to war.  An illegal embargo, much as Israel has put on Gaza, is an act of war and any measured retaliation would be just.

You may call it illegal but another may call it legal. I think the whole IRI is "illegal". I don't even want Islam in my government. To add here are some questions on the whole point:

• Who decides what is fair and what is not?
• Was it fair for Mohammad to marry a 6 year old? Did she get a voice in it it or got forced to do it.
• Was it fair for all those Iranian to die in war because Khomeini would not accept a true or peace? Why should any Iranian be killed to support IRI and its intransigence.
• Is it fair for my family home and business to be taken by IRI? How do I get it back.
• Is it fair that I have to see my nation go down to toilet. Because some bone head Islamist want to be "independent"? 
• Is it fair to impose Islamic rule on all people. Maybe I don't want Islam. Is it fair to chase me out of my home be cause I don't submit to Islam.
• It is fair for some 2 million Kuwait to "own" all that oil because by a chance of nature it was under the land where they lived. Meanwhile 128 million Japanese pay through their nose for it? I don't think it is fair.
• Is it fair that one person is smarter of more beautiful than another.
• Is it fair that we are born in totally different environments. Some enjoy peace and affection. Others get nothing.

Hot air

Last time the regime had skirmish with U.S it ended up loosing ships and oil platform on fire in persian gulf (or is it gulf with no name now)

The regime does not have this capability. This is the same regime who could not do a thing about loss of Iranian territory in caspian sea, could not do a thing when saudi's marched to Bahrain, can not do any thing now while Qataries are exploiting the gas fields (It was supposed to be shaed 50/50). I am guessing if tiny Dubai get's couple of ships and sends tiny force to the Iranian islands they claim, the regime will not do anything either.It's just talk and lot of hot air.

The only thing this regime is capable of is gathering large number of goons to beat, kill and rape folks in Iranian cities. That's all!

In a barrage of rhetorics…

It would seem to be of a reasonable measure and expected from any nation should a hostile action, a military embargo, be put on its exports.

One with a fair sense of justice, need to condemn all actions that is leading to war.  An illegal embargo, much as Israel has put on Gaza, is an act of war and any measured retaliation would be just.

  Now, should IRI unilaterally and unprovoked begin by closing this passage, that would deserve also every one’s condemnation and a measured retaliation by the international community.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

To All patriatic Iranians.We have to protect our "Persian Gulf"

Seems mullahs back up today with a easy speech in compare to yesterday. Arabs are looking for opportunity. They have had eyes on our Persian Gulf for a long time. Please protect our Persian Gulf. Never use name Gulf alone. This is a conspiracy against our country. The situation is escalating and the winners are lizard eater Arabs as far as our Persian Gulf concern.

Crown Reza Pahalvi is a the way to go. Unity under one leadership and that is Padeshah. Crown Reza Pahlavi is alive, educated and can represent us in international community and defend our rights.

Unity through nobility

Payanedh Iran.

 Iran issues second

 Iran issues second warning in 2 days that it could close Strait of Hormuz, strategic oil route

In response, the Bahrain-based U.S. 5th Fleet’s spokeswoman warned that any disruption “will not be tolerated.” The spokeswoman, Lt. Rebecca Rebarich, said the U.S. Navy is “always ready to counter malevolent actions to ensure freedom of navigation.”

With concern growing over a possible drop-off in Iranian oil supplies, a senior Saudi oil official said Gulf Arab nations are ready to offset any loss of Iranian crude.

That reassurance led to a drop in world oil prices. In New York, benchmark crude fell 77 cents to $100.57 a barrel in morning trading. Brent crude fell 82 cents to $108.45 a barrel in London.

“Closing the Strait of Hormuz is very easy for Iranian naval forces,” Adm. Habibollah Sayyari told state-run Press TV. “Iran has comprehensive control over the strategic waterway,” the navy chief said.

The threats underline Iranian concern that the West is about to impose new sanctions that could target Tehran’s vital oil industry and exports.

//www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/irans-navy-chief-says-it-would-be-easy-to-close-strait-of-hormuz-strategic-passage-for-oil/2011/12/28/gIQA3fg6LP_story.html?wprss=rss_world

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

Iran navy chief says

Iran navy chief says closing Gulf "really easy"

//www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/28/us-iran-hormuz-closure-idUSTRE7BR09E20111228?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FworldNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+International%29 

 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

Persian Gulf

I agree it should be called by its right name. A lot of "Iranians" have picked up the BBC lingo and now say "The Gulf". They are even proud of becoming BBC's mouthpiece.

I agree that Arabs might try to take advantage of Iranian weakness. That is why Iranian soldiers should not fight America. For one thing Iran needs them intact. Another good thing is Saddam is gone and Iraq is in no position to threaten Iran.

That is also where Iranian America lobbies may help. Get America to limit its goals to a minimum. Form a Government In Exile; get America to recognizxe it. To distinguish between IRI and Iran and supports rights of Iranian nation.

Admiral Habibollah Sayyari

"Hormuz stays open".

//www.europe1.fr/International/Iran-le-detroit-d-Ormuz-reste-ouvert-881433/

Mixed feeling

I must admit I would love to see the back of IRI and look forward to the day that all the murderers and rapists of this regime stand on trial in front of people’s court and answer for their crimes.

Now if a help from U.S by annihilating all the bases of this regime’s power and suppression would do the trick, I am all for it.

My only concern though is if this war leads in to opportunist Arab countries in our southern border capturing and putting claims on parts of our territory, reducing our rights in Persian Gulf or being empowered in pushing ahead with their fraudulent intentions on the name of PERSIAN GULF

That is why I believe that now more than ever we need a strong leader who could take our cause and defend our rights in international institutions.

At the moment although not perfect I believe the only person fitting that bill is Reza Pahlavi. That is why I appeal to him and hope that he would take up this task on our behalf and in event of war defend our rights.

After the war is over and IRI is gone we can have a referendum and everybody could vote on the type of government (republic or monarchy) than they want

China Will Not Go To War!

China will not go to war to help Iran. The buffer state of North Korea is a different story. There's too much at stake for China. Aside from something like 300,000 foreign companies in China, Europe and the US are the main markets for China's exports. There's no way the Chinese will jeopardize the status quo!

Point well raised Spatima

Dear Spatima

Thank you for the well raised point

The Persian Gulf is and always will remain Persian Gulf. This was exactly my reaction when I saw the title of this clip.

Gulf? What Gulf??.  If by that you mean the body of water which lays on our homeland’s southern frontier, it has a 2500 years old name and that is PERSIAN GULF.

Furthermore no Arab fraudster or Western opportunist company or country will be allowed to touch it. This is a keepsake (Amanat) handed to us by the previous generations and our duty is to hand it over intact to the next

However it is a shame and disappointment that even Credible Iranian web sites are being caught in heath of the moment and allow such swindles happen.

Hence I plea to JJ and all operators of this site to please be more careful do not let opportunists or even worse careless people with even the best intentions in the world to become a vehicle for such conspiracies

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These guys in the video will surrender as soon they get the chance when the west comes. Many will probably then apply for asylym and get it because of retaliation back home... Those days of "Ey lashkare saheb zaman, amade bash, amade bash..." are gone...

The only interesting thing is if China will go into war, which I don't think will happen in practice, especially if Iran starts blocking first... I think both China & Russia know that when (observe when, not if) IRI falls, business will continue as usual. The real conflict is economical percentages here and there, also I think the US is discussing this issue (post-war deals) right now with Russia & China. Always remember, when China/Russia say "we will defend Iran", they are really saying "we will protect our resources". So what the west has to figure out is how to make Russia/China happy after a war, that is, how to split the resources...

Iran is one of those proxy countries in the world were two super power collide. The russians are afraid that if the US goes to war with Iran they will have total control of the middle east, and all its oil, this is their last stronghold...

If Iran is to be free russia must be kept happy somehow. This is the reason why the US don't just go to war with Iran, because they don't want another Korea/Vietnam etc... This is why Iran is refered to as a "special case" when journalists interview top american politicians. It's not because Iran by itself is powerful, it's because the situation could lead to a war between super powers... 

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Iran will transit from an islamic republic to a military republic before it gets better.  Right now the heart conflict in iranian politics is to remove the mullahs from power, that is, the conservatists want to make "Sepah" the "head of state" and remove the velayat faghih. They feel that the mullahs aren't dealing with the west in an appropiate way. They fear that if the mullahs continue to rule they will lose against the west (which they will anyways)... 

جمهوری اسلامی ایران چگونه تنگه هرمز را خواهد بست + تصاویر

Basiji Dreams:

//www.jahannews.com/vdchwwnzv23nwid.tft2.html

..and don't forget IRGC's High tech "flying Boats".

//www.jahannews.com/images/docs/000199/n00199...

Never mind that it is made of "Halabi" and looks like something you ride in an amusement park, this is said to be potent and will annihilate West's war ships.

WHICH GULF, YOU MEAN THE PERSIAN GULF???

REFER TO THE PROPER NAME (PERSIAN GULF) in the title of your video.

this is not the gulf of mexico (which americans simply call "gulf" because they dont want to give mexico any credit)

In hope of a Free, Democratic, Independent and Secular Iran

I wonder

where is trita parsi or the rest of the paid goons for the mullahs?

if this is not asking for war, then I don't know what is.

in an ideal world, these idiots would leave in peace....but NO, they have to steal and rape some more- the greedy B***ards they are!

I pray that there is no war, but if there is, let's hope khayeneyis mansion is the first to go! 

no doubt that Firoozabadi's

no doubt that Firoozabadi's big a$$ would dam the narrow straight, stopping all traffic as well as water flow (//4.bp.blogspot.com/-TFIYO-odXNE/Tvpe4feboEI/AAAAAAAAAOw/cOFe7wyrBjY/s1600/%25D8%25AC%25D9%2586%25D8%25A8%25D8%25B4+%25D8%25AA%25D8%25AD%25D8%25B1%25DB%258C%25D9%2585+%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%25D8%25AA%25D8%25AE%25D8%25A7%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AA+%25287%2529.png)!

Re these monkeys...

Bluffs aside, one thing they'll be capable of doing though, is blocking the Strait of Hormuz, which would be a death wish. For it'll turn the situation into an all out war!

Arj, these monkeys are so mechanical in everything they show in

here.

The was they chant Allahoakbar: you know they've rehearsed that seen and its totally fake.

And the motorcycles, WTF are they thinking?!?

A third world joke of a navy going up against the combined naval forces of US, England and France.

If things keep going on the same path in the next few days, it will quickly change from sadly funny (stupid) to sadly tragic.