Iranian of the Day

About Khebedin's comment.

Khebedin: Why don't you buy some bananas and celebrate the Yalda with your family?  Have you learned only to prescribe to others?  With such a mentality I am not sure if you consider your own family as "others" or "not"? 

p.s. You are old enough to be able to stop your obsessions with a hole.

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TL

I told you nudity is not my choice for protest but I support their right. I would plain out reject Islam. That would get me support of majority of the world. I would also go across very well in the USA.

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~ VPK, it's hardly a good idea to ramble through the Sahara desert in the nuddy and it's not I who's making a political point with nudity, it's these two ladies and their objections are mainly in a head-on collision with public place in Islamic countries.Try visiting the bakery in the nude in Atlanta, Georgia, and may the angel Lucifer help you out of there!

~pedramx , thanks for not only understanding one of my points but clarifying it.  I guess, the underlying question is if the actions of the two ladies is a reaction or an action.

Nature is so beautiful!

Look at those beautiful green trees, and the beautiful grass!  Just gorgeous!  When was this picture taken?  The weather seems to be perfect for bicycling.  It looks like at least a couple of people went for biking.

To really protest, she

To really protest, she should have couple of Bananas with her

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thats the way....aha....aha.....I like it.....

thats the way....aha....aha.....I like it. 

RE: Irony

don't take your lap top to bed

Iron may be needed in case you had a dream.

Maziar

Re: Irony

Dear VPK "you may have seen it all" but
what you have missed is the NORM in Iranian society... If someone can imagine that his/her grandma, mom or sister to post a nude picture like this one on Internet then that person is entitle to consider the action of this lady as a norm and not extreme.

Re: Irony !

Going to the extreme to fight the extremism...such an Irony...

If you think this picture is "extreme" you have seen nothing dude! 

Irony !

Going to the extreme to fight the extremism...such an Irony...

Re: if you like the idea so much*, why

There are plenty of nude gatherings and events. I don't so much care about them but if I did there is no shortage of them. Thankfully in America we got pretty much everything you may think of.

No one gets killed or threatened. And it is not done in "solidarity" and it is not up to you. I stumbled across a huge gathering once about 12 years ago. About 3000 people from fully clothed to fully naked gathered around. On private property and legal 100%.

It is sad how people have so much trouble with human body. What religion has done to people is turn us into self haters. Original sin all the way to hijab. They suck.

No big deal

Nudity is no if you don't obsess yourself with it. No Souri they don't have a problem; it is others who have a problem with it. Being nude is natural and beneficial specially when it is hot it is very good:

• because it is the simplest way to keep cool. 
• You don't dirty clothes so no laundry to worry about.
• Fat people don't have to tie up my their belly in tight pants which feel bad.

Anyone who assumes "everyone" is obsessed with body is projecting. None of you knows what other people think. You are all biased with your own points of view. People are simply brainwashed to think nudity is a problem but it isn't.

Don't tell other people what they think because you don't know. For centuries Greeks had no problem with it. The statues are perfect evidence of it. The obsession with body is mostly due to Abrahamic religions not human nature.

if you like the idea so much*, why

don't you organize a whole group of people to do it? Men and women.

In solidarity, so to speak. 

*I don't mind it in the least. I just think of nude people looking like freerange, organic,  plucked chickens. Maybe chickens are the new political weapon. I dunno!

Though I am against both dude and anti-dude, ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgYpfTuPa4o&feature=related 

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Sure

I'm giving the "nudists" coverage, so to speak :) They are extremists with a heart, in love with life (and themselves too, spreading a worthy message) not brutal animals at the other end who worship death and make life miserable for whole nations.

JJ, you're doing it as well

all you're doing is describing two extreme categories of obsession with nudity and not everybody fits into them.

P.S. I have no idea about their ulterior motives, nor do I know anything about their flaws. All I did was describe the difference, which wil obviously lead to different effects. What effect, I have no idea. I'll wait and see, if I'm still interested.

This picture is only good for those "Before" & "after" ads! :-)

          Lets all hope and pray this one would be the "before" one!

          On a pragmatic note, this nauseating scene would serve some purpose though beyond the alleged purpose that is. It is going to get IC lots of "CLICKS"!

        As those who disagree and those who hold their nose (close their eyes in this case) and express support both rush to express their passionate views on IC, "Clicks" ads up and $$$$$ follow! :-)

    Sorry for being so brutal but if you are going to destroy my evening and badly damage my libido (did i say it correctly? :-)), you are not getting any mercy from moi! ;-)

Souri

The Big C is one of the most popular television series that I am in love with.  Ziba’s photo reminded me a minute of the series.  Rebecca (Cynthia Nixon) was worried why her husband (Sean) didn’t have sex with her after their unborn child died.  One day she wore Catholic school girl’s uniform in front of Sean.  Sean was shocked and told Rebecca that he never fantasized for Catholic school girl entire his life and wondered why Rebecca thought that way.  Sean always wanted to love and have sex with someone like Rebecca. 

To dear Souri: As you see it inflames Muslims and Muslim societies who live in western countries.  I don’t think that religion can be disappeared from people’s life.   When Islam becomes moderate in western countries people start going to mosques again and at least do their crying there.  This is what happens to other religions in the western countries.  BTW, a Muslim minority group, who left their own country to survive, have their own mosques in Toronto.  Also, this photo unites some types of people too.  Bafava is becoming too modest I guess.  I am against war with IRI, but I don't want to pat on the back of IRI either. 

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Obsession with nudity

TKL, yes, we're all obsessed with nudity. All of us. One extreme thinks it's shameful, sinful, even criminal. The other insists boldly, and at times playfully, that it's no big deal and refuse to be intimated by grim, violent reactionaries.

The nudists may have lots of ulterior motives and character flaws. But their non-violent, humanist message is still important.

scream

There is a huge difference between a young girl's nude pictures taken at home and published on the internet in protest, in the country she is residing in at the risk of her life,

basically screaming for her human rights,

to an older lady digging up her photos taken in a designated nudist park in 2007, apparently in solidarity, in Hamburg. Somehow, if the photos had been recently inspired and taken somwhere at the very least at the risk of being arrested for indecent exposure, I would have been at least impressed in some way.

Question is though, by using the same tool, the body, just to the other extreme, aren't they all obsessed with nudity? 

P.S. Got to give it to her though: have you read the very seriously nasty, to put it mildly, comments on her blog?  Those people should really be ashamed of their genitals running amock inside their tiny skulls.

Rastin

Well I hope you are right and in my book you have a right to any opinion. But I notice that various people have distinct preferences. It seems to reflect their attitude towards Islam and religion.

I am sick and tired of the whole business of Islamic feelings. What about my or other peoples feelings. All I hear is that Muslims this; Islam that. For a lifetime I had to apologize for them; see Iran dragged in the mud and have had it with them.

I am not the only one many on IC feel the same way. I happen to be more moderate than many. Believe me unless Muslims get their act together a giant backlash is going  to happen.

VPK

No one is trying to impose anything on anyone and no one is disputing Ziba's right to protest as she wants to. But I reserve the right to have an opinion whether positive or negative.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory (courtesy of Bavafa)

Souri

You  are wrong! These actions can never change the attitude of the Muslim in this regard. Read Bavafa's comment to which I agree %100 :

I totally disagree. You and Mehrdad are trying to impose your morality on us. Freedom means the right to protest as you want. Not as you think we should. I don't go around naked but I absolutely support her right to do it.

I don't want to change Muslim attitude I want to be rid of them. Not in the sense of destroying them. But in the sense of rejecting them and being out of the club. I never wanted to be one of them  and they must keep their attitude to themselves.

This is a great way to say: we do as we wish. Not as you want: get used to it. Muslim may terrorize some others need to stand up to them. There is no way to stop this as more people on the internet do this. Maybe dear Islamists should turn off their computers. 

javgir shodan!

JJ jan kari be khoshgeli ya zeshti nadareh, Kareh Alia moghtazayeh jameh khodeshoon bood va in kar faghat copy on kareh bar asaseh javgir shodan... to egypt zan ha azadand ke roosari bezaran ya nazaran... va alia khast ino yk step joloo bebareh, in ziba khanoom ageh to Iran bood va roosarisho to khiaboon bar midasht on moogheh karesh khaili por asar mibood ta inkeh to kharej khodeshoo lokht koneh. har chand kareh khanoomeh ziba ham shojaaneh ast dar meghyaseh khodesh vali foghtesh yk jarimeh 100 dollari vaseh public indecency behesh mideh va shayad ham yk seri az doostaneh khanevadegishoon bahash ghate rabeteh konan vali Alia to keshvareh khodesh inkaro kard ke alan joonesh dar khatareh va hezaran tahdid be marg daryaft kardeh... kholaseh kari ro ke ziba khanoom ba bardashtaneh roosari too iran mitoonest bekoneh ba paeen keshidan shalvaresh too kharj natoonest bekoneh.

 bejooz ziba khanoom Firoozeh bazr afkan ham ke javan tar az eshoon bodan hamin karo anjam dadan vali kareh eshoon ham asar gozar nabood. jenab Arash kalan ham albaseh khodeshoon ro daro ovordeh boodan dar hemayat az Alia khanoom... kholaseh inkeh bayad davaye dardeh khodemoon ro khodemoon kashf koni ba copy bardari va javgir shodan kari az pish nemireh

 //www.firoozeh.dk/portfolio/aliaa-magda-elmahdy/ 

the ugly ones included...

+1 to Bavafa

"Do your fighting in such way that counts and unites people, not to add fuel to the IRI flame"

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory (courtesy of Bavafa)

Mehrdard; Souri

While you two may have a point lets face it: her rights include doing what she wants. But it is not possible to do that and be a Muslim. Therefore as I said the right thing is to reject Islam not reform it.

Move on and let Muslims do what they will just insist on the right to your religion. You get much more support from Americans including the Bible Belt. They will even try to make you a Christian :-) 

The main thing is right to chose your religion with no threats. No more force. Americans and Iranians will be receptive to it. The only resistance is by radicals who will lose. It will be a very workable and reasonable way will not offend normal people.

Reject Islam Now

Realistic approach is to reject Islam and do as your wish is. I don't understand the reason people insist on remaining Muslim. If you want to be free give it up. That is what Islam needs and requires so do you want it. Why insist on a religion which teaches you this. What Islam needs is more people saying no I had it. Otherwise what does Islam offer you. Then people realize the way they go means it is over for Islam.At least among civilized people and then let them decide.

Good Luck

VPK

Comment

You  are wrong! These actions can never change the atittude of the Muslim in this regard.

Read Bavafa's comment to which I agree %100 :

 Do your fighting in such way that counts and unites people, not to add fuel to the IRI(Muslims) flame

It would be a perfect world if all of us tomorrow step out

      of shower into the streets! Just like  that most if not all the world problems go away! Dream on!

 It won't be freedom of speech if a man takes his "schlong" and start walking down the street. Or is it?

    Oh, I can see comment after comment here form those who passionately defend freedom of speech and elevate the act of nudity to heroism! But sometimes a Vagina is just that, a vagina and it should stay private! ;-)