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Faryarm

I will provide the proof of Sects in the Baha'i Faith and I know I am not the first.

Baha'is do not involve in politics??????

"I really think that Iranian government and other governments
in the other muslim countries  are aware that, if Bahai's are allowed to
practice their faith freely, then they may become highly popular with
the youth of these countries.  Their presence and existence can humble
any muslim establishemnt and this can be good for our struggle for
democracy and human rights. 

Our main illness is the Estebdad, and the cure for this illness is democracy."

آقا اگه ما نخوایم بهایی بشیم کی‌ رو باید ببینیم؟

 نه جدا میگم. بهائیت خیلی‌ هم خوب و بهترین دین دنیاست ولی‌ اگه یکی‌ نخواد بهایی بشه باید چیکار بایست بکنه ؟

fussygorilla :Your Knowledge ?

Dear Fussygorilla

Respectfully, according to what you state below:

"My comment on baha'ism was not based on my own religion or any other personal belief. It is based on many years of study and research which I did about Qurratul'ayn, a Babi woman whom Baha'is continue to claim in their propaganda, was a "women's rights champion" in 19th century Iran. Total lie and fabrication."

Sadly you do not even have the correct basic facts!Regretfully here is a glaring proof of our lack of knowledge , with regard to your statement that Shoghi Effendi did not know Persian...

Although he was born in Palestine, as a result of His Great grandfather's exile and imprisonment from Iran to the Ottoman Penal colony in Akka, He grew up to not only master the Persian language and write in the most majestic style, but he went on to learn English and study at Beirut University , then master the english language at Baliol College Oxford, to translate Baha'u'llah's writings. see this for his Persian :

//reference.bahai.org/fa/t/se/TM1/tm1-70.html

and this for his mastery of his English as his second language.

//reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/WOB/wob-41.html

Your knowledge of the Babi and Bahai Faith is entirely based on your reliance on anti Bahai manufactured propoganda.Would you like me to correct you based on both Bahai and Non Bahai historical sources? and to show you the obvious similarities between your opinion and the one promoted by the Islamic Republic?

Would you like to provide one piece of evidence or proof to prove your points? If you could, you would be the first, since in the last 160 years.

Shoghi Effendi

There seems to be some confusion about Shoghi Effendi. His native language was Persian, he spoke it often to many Persians (his wife, who was canadian, learned to speak it as well), wrote many letters and prayers in Persian, and translated bahai writings and history from Persian (and Arabic) into English. He made a big effort to master English, partly in Beirut and for less than two years in England. His native country was Palestine and he lived there most of his life (1897-1957). Yes, do read Shoghi Effendi's writings and you'll witness his deep love for Iran, the country of his forefathers and the birthplace of his religion.

With respect

"[the bahai faith] cometh neither for strife nor war, nor for acts of mischief or of
shame; it is neither for quarreling with other Faiths, nor for conflicts
with the nations. Its only army is the love of God, its only joy the
clear wine of His knowledge..its one crusade is against the insistent
self, the evil promptings of the human heart."-Abdu’l-Bahá

Fussygorilla I am sadened

Fussygorilla

I am sadened to see that so unfairly, you question the royalty of my Bahai brothers and sisters, by using the Islamists propaganda line.  And exactly, that is why, I am in love with American democracy, becuase it accepts me as I am, without questioning my religion and my royalty.  In every samll or big town in America, there are mosques built and people are allowed to worship whoever they want.  America is a christian society, yet they respect so many non-christians as they are.  Why you and people like you can not learn from this great  American nation and tolerate people's religious believes?  Islamists in Iran can not tolerate Gonabadi Drawish, Soni muslims (constantly their belives are assulted), New-Chritians. Islamist regime could not respect  even Ayatolah Montazery and others.  My Bahai brothers and sisters are my fellow Iranians, and that is all matters to me, plus nobody is better than them and they are not better than somebody else.  Only people with Sharaf and Vojdan should matter to all of us.

Babak K. 

Fussygorilla: I can only apologize for ...

... my hasty assumption that your judgment was based on or driven by your own religious belief. I am not equipped with the knowledge or time to make a judgment one way or the other but my concern is that the result of your research work may be misused by some to prejudice against our Baha’ii “hamvatans”.  I know it sounds so cliché and rather patronizing but I tend to judge people by the strength of their character and their individuality and not by their religion, background or race.

Some more good historical videos on Baha'i Faith

Youtube

//www.youtube.com/user/8522400199

This blog is created by one Baha'i Reformist Mr. Fredrick Glaysher regarding the lost Court Case. Very Informative.

//bahaifaith7thcircuitcourtofappeals.blogspot...

My reply

to Reader 1 and Babak and others:  firstly, it is not polite to ask a person what religion they believe in but since I have none, I won't hesitate to state it. My comment on baha'ism was not based on my own religion or any other personal belief. It is based on many years of study and research which I did about Qurratul'ayn, a Babi woman whom Baha'is continue to claim in their propaganda, was a "women's rights champion" in 19th century Iran. Total lie and fabrication.

As to Babak, just read Shoghi Effendi's writings (instead of accepting the falsepropaganda)and you will find that he had absolutely no sense of loyalty to his nation, Iran. In fact, he was anti-Iran who was supported and financed by the British. He never spoke Persian, was married to an english woman, lived all his life in England. I could write an essay on this but won't.  I am not surprised, therefore, that the Iranian regime is suspicious of the Baha'is in Iran being British spies(true or not, Idon't have a way of knowing).

Bahai:"human race & unity...." isn't that the Persian culture?

Bani Adam Azaayeh yek digarand keh dar afarinesh zeh yek goharan. I didn't know that the essence of being persian is called bahaii!! What am I missing? So, are all iranians who follow their persian culture even though they are moslems, are bahaii?

question: for the same reasoning as to why iranians shouldn't be moslem because we are not arabs, then why should other nationalities convert to bahaii which is persian, when they are not?

"In the end, a man's life is measured not by what he has but by what he has given!"

I am proud of all my Bahai

I am proud of all my Bahai brothers and sisters.  They impress me very much.  They have so much to offer, and we can learn so much from them.  From what I have read, early Bahai movement was very progressive force.  I wish that they  become stronger and stronger so that they can influence other religious establishments to respect the rights of their followers.  I think their presence and their popularity can be a positive force in any society.  I can not understand why so many people are afraid of them.  Unfortunetly, a lot of ignorant people are threatend by Bahai's: I really think that Iranian government and other governments in the other muslim countries  are aware that, if Bahai's are allowed to practice their faith freely, then they may become highly popular with the youth of these countries.  Their presence and existence can humble any muslim establishemnt and this can be good for our struggle for democracy and human rights. 

Our main illness is the Estebdad, and the cure for this illness is democracy.

Babak K.

people try to

These days average people try to stay away from religion and keep it to them self. But our Baha'i friend keep trying to promote their faith and push very hard to convert. I have a feeling that each Bahai that converts will get some kind of bonus from his master.  The Reader1 is correct in his comment “I just wish they stop trying to convert me to their religion!”. 

BTW - Why was he speaking in English. They were both Iranians

FussyGorilla: My criticism extends to all religions ...

Would you care to tell us which religion you belong too?  Are you religiously enlightened? My criticism of the missionary aspect of the Bahaii faith extends to all religions including my own parent’s religion. Seeing one as the “citizen of the world” is a notion I dearly subscribe to but as I said, I am proudly religious blind.

Baha'i faith

is a cult born out of Babi movement by an Iranian Shi'i cleric who named himself the Bab.  Later, the British, in their customary imperialist policies, adopted and supported his successor Bahaullah in order to pursue divide and rule in Iran.  Contemporary Baha'is are all missionaries by the order of their leaders who are in Haifa(Israel).  Their entire religious doctrine is fabricated and shaped as a "modern world view" in order to appeal to the ignorant and those who are disenchanted with their own religion (christians).

Baha'is have absolutely no loyalty to the countries they are citizens of since the creed tells them to be the "citizens of the world". Their propaganda machine is very similar to that of the zionists; very extensive as compared to their numbers ( a few years back in Chicago which is one of their headquarters with a large library),  was about 300 members. 

Oh YUCK OFF!

Not going to watch this. Sure, all I need is another message from god almighty and just to prop up the economy, by ending up in anger-management therapy, the other religion, just to cope with all the vociferous lunatics, who've found all the answers.

Oh and to all religious loons, please stop praying for my soul. It's creepy! Are you all reinacting The Omen or something?

"Stuff happens and some, one way or another, get stuffed"

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Jonathon Shaw is so talented! His music blew me away! It is such a joy to listen to him play!

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Ey Iran

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-wMwOemuQ

Jaaneh Maryam

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp2FuZOO4P0

Rasghse Atash (Dance of Fire)

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVgrgaAK7aw

Barg E Khazan

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XgoCqU09HM

Jonathan Shaw Baha'i VIOLINIST at DAL San Diego Nov. 2010

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsUEMG2frhg

Those of us who are proudly religious blind ...

... and see Baha’ism as merely a school of thought originated in Iran would have liked a word said on the origin and cultural heritage of these lovely people. I appreciate that this is a clip on promoting pioneering or missionary work among ordinary Baha’is but I am not sure it would do them any good in promoting  their religion – the worse thing they can do is to try emulating the Jehovah's witnesses way of promoting a religion. The other day a colleague from work rushed excitedly to my office to tell me that a lovely Iranian couple moved into their neighbourhood and she had already invited them in for dinner  - asking advice on what to cook for dinner! A few days later when I asked her about her neighbours, she said “I just wish they stop trying to convert me to their religion!”. 

Ps. Loved the music.

Jonathon

Incredible and uplifting music by Jonthon Shaw.

Agha inja na!!!!

In be darde bahayeeha mikhoreh na non-bahayeeha.

vasalam

ببخشینا باز مزاحم میشم

 ما که چیزی از حرفای این خانماو آقایون نفهمیدیم ممکنه یکی‌ واسه ما ترجمه کنه. بعدشم میخوام بینم فرق بین پیام بها الله و پیام رسول الله چیه؟ همین.

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"Pioneers" sound like missionaries!

I like the violin solo by Jonathan Shaw in the video!