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Amirparviz
by Mehrban on Sat Jun 04, 2011 06:22 AM PDTThank you for your response to my comment. To this day in the minds of many Iranians, myself included the role of US in the revolution of 79 is not very clear.
shushtari good to see you are alert
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Jun 04, 2011 03:52 AM PDTSadly others can't see how this guy rockefeller, kisinger, rumsfeld etc etc are all talking in a way as to protect Americas current day interests, which is very different to the way they used to speak when shah was alive.
Sadly shah lost and this is what happens, even the so called friends of those who lose through betrayal have to play from an entirely new playbook. They know shah is gone and there is no negative consequence of betraying him today as there is zero chance of them allowing his son to come back to power.
But the funny thing is this, the USA is only # 1 in terms of Economy today, which also translates into military and force, but they are no longer #1 in terms of politics/alliances, so the world is in opposition to them.
And so in less than 10 years time with china/russia each in top 5 with respect to gdp the usa will lose #1 status too. Sure sttarting more wars in the 3rd world can help them stay in place maybe 10 years more, but then what...
so change is happening and no game rockefeller plays with his politics can prevent the outcome USA will experience as a result of ot being able to solve its own economic/social problems created by the pursuit of money.
This is the fundamental problem with democracies, they make money #1 and worship money like god, as everything becomes about money and power, so the very forces that made the fabric of the society tear it to pieces, hence why no democratic republic has lasted more than a couple of hundred years.
Having the largest #1 of multibillionaires and millionaires, the largest # of people living in poverty and the largest number of people with no health care or safety net of any industrialized nation.... are not exactly a great combination to have to contend with.
The pursuit of ideals, with no regard to principles is burying the USA, yet most can't see it. So in a way there is a real hope based on reality for Iranians to restore the monarchy after the USA is handled by the EU/Russia/China. As I don't see this US administration or any in the future of mending their alliance with Irans traditionalists.
this old, rotting geazer
by shushtari on Fri Jun 03, 2011 09:42 PM PDTis a disgrace....
he was 'supposedly' one of the shah's best friends....and even now, after 32 years of lies, and seeing what happened to iran, this senile idiot doesn't have the cojones to stand up and say- listen, the shah was a true patriot, and we, the american idiots, make the biggest mistake of our lives in toppling him....
he should be ashamed of himself....iranians know the truth
...before the Shah was removed...
by Immortal Guard on Fri Jun 03, 2011 08:40 PM PDTI appreciate honesty, particularly coming from the really powerful. I guess you would never hear somebody like Carter or Obama talk like that!
Elham57 Iranians can be Nasty and cheap, didn't you know??
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Jun 03, 2011 05:13 PM PDTthe good, what shah accomplished
the bad, resistance and cheap shots, comments like servant, dictator, crook etc.
the ugly, betrayal
whole host of other things... Mehrban
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Jun 03, 2011 05:08 PM PDTThe US/UK/Japan/France/Germany etc would not sell any industrial technology to Iran or allow it to become an industrialized nation.
Shah was told repeatidly ,that he would be removed from Iran if he did not stop the pursuit of Iranian Steel, he later accomplished this national goal with Russia's help.
Industrialization was successfully accomplished and directly employed and educated 100K skilled workers, indirectly over 800K through private companies related to it.
The raising of oil prices was the excuse used later, by the west to remove the Shah, but the real issue was the Iranian economy and positioning itself to be worlds 3rd largest economy after USA and Japan.
He was far far away from being a servant, a true patriot unlike all the pseudo nationalists Ahmadinejad has around him.
How could they give him a place or help him after everything they had done... they were behind over throwing him on so many levels, allegations of torture during the 1970's were lies, though Rockefeller says maybe it did happen.
There's no good way of betraying and double crossing a partner you had a pact of friendship and support with.
Shah's Best Friends
by Faramarz on Fri Jun 03, 2011 02:07 PM PDTNixon, Rockefeller and Kissinger were the late Shah's best friends. They tried to find him a home in the US and the medical care that he needed at the very end.
All those European Royalties that lived off of him like leeches and the worst one of them all, King Husain of Jordan abandoned him like rats leaving a sinking ship! So despicable!
Cheap Shot
by Elham57 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:03 AM PDTThat dog won't haunt no more.
We now know, only the servants(of you know who) called the Shah a servant.
Here you hear...
by پندارنیک on Fri Jun 03, 2011 09:58 AM PDTI really like the American culture which recalls a servant as a friend.
3:50
by Mehrban on Fri Jun 03, 2011 09:42 AM PDT["perhaps it was justified that he (SHAH) leaves office and of course this was due to whole host of OTHER THINGS"]
I wish he had elaborated on what he meant by the "whole host of OTHER THINGS".