Russia Today: With the "Arab Spring" marching forward, what about Iran? The West has tried to isolate the Islamic Republic for decades with little success. Now the shoe is on the other foot - with the Washington consensus coming to an end in the Arab Middle East, will Iran be able to fill the power vacuum? CrossTalking with Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich, Jonathan Paris and Mohammad Marandi.
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Her body language tells all
by asadabad on Mon May 16, 2011 04:48 PM PDT"A liar is uncomfortable facing his questioner/accuser and
may turn his/her head or body away."
"A person who is lying to you will avoid making eye contact."
Source:
//www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php
Marandi is scum
by asadabad on Mon May 16, 2011 03:39 PM PDTHere he is excusing the Syrian and Iranian regimes of torture, rape and murder. I hope and pray that one day the situation is reversed so that he can taste his own medicine. What a liar and hypocrite. He knows full well that these two governments have the worst human rights records and here he is trying to pull the Salafi card in order to deflect any type of criticism.
Responsibility and Conspiracy
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon May 16, 2011 09:25 AM PDTThe others may try to cheat us and harm us. But we did not have to fall for it. We could have accepted Bakhtiar and had real democracy. Instead chose to go for an idiot. Yes we are responsible and should accept it. I hope this explains my position.
Why she is
by statira on Mon May 16, 2011 06:31 AM PDTlooking up instead of looking at the camera. It's so annoying to watch her. I guess she is looking for Emam zamoon!
amirparvizforsecularmonarchy
by Rastgoo on Mon May 16, 2011 05:28 AM PDTYou say:
"The USA is doing everything in her power to make sure only radicals and
fundamentalists can hold power in Iran, the greater middle east and
north africa. One group of radicals against another to get its own new
crazies in power."
"Guess which secret service was funneling $150 million dollar wires at a
time (and several times) to khomeini's account in france? (equal to $1.5
Billion in todays money)?
Guess who paid for training thousands of his followers in terrorist activities under the PLO's supervision"
This is exactly what I meant about conspiracy theory interpretations of Iranian political history! For god's sake man there is no proof that the US gave $150M to Khomeini! You guys take what ever hearsay you find embellish it and then propagate it. That's utter non-sense. The modern Tamerlane, Khomeini, is in Iran now because of the Shah's arrogance and incompetence. Fact: The Shah was returned to power because of a CIA MI6 sponsored coup. The information is available to all and is not hearsay like your information. The Shah destroyed the Nationalists and the Leftists and we were left with Islamists as the only channel of opposition. Yes your Shahanshah is the reason that we have Khomeini's blood sucking regime today in Iran!
Until we Iranians don't learn to take responsibility for our own actions and stop blaming others for our troubles we will never cross our obstacles to development. The US would love to see a democratic secular regime in Iran. Do you know why? It's very simple: Money. The US wants to trade freely because it would beat everyone in fair trade. Why hasn't the US managed to get rid of this regime for the past 32 years? What bigger thorn has been in America's eye except for Iran for the past 32 years? Oh wait your reasoning must be that because they want the ME to be ruled by a bunch of morons so that they can take the oil for cheap. Or some other non-sense convoluted conspiracy theory. The US cannot get rid of this regime even it spent $1B. In my opinion the only reason that spending $1M to overthrow Mossadegh (operation Ajax) worked was because our own people did not come to the streets in his support at the behest of Shah's friend Ayatollah Kashani.
Some leftist
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon May 16, 2011 05:14 AM PDTThanks friends for exposing this fake leftist. I have more leftist tendencies than she does. We must not confuse America hating with "left". I wonder what she thinks about murder of massive number of leftists by Khomeini?
Roozbeh jan thanks for the
by Simorgh5555 on Mon May 16, 2011 12:59 AM PDTRoozbeh jan thanks for the link. You are correct. Soraya Ulrich is neither a Left wing Iranian or nationalist, she is, as you say a confused Gucci Socialist. A person who is Left Wing in her mind but enjoys all the trappings and wealth which Imperialist America has to offer. A person who supports Ahmadinejad's anti-west propaganda but is too blind to see that he and the regime have screwed Iranian workers royally. Soraya is truly a horrible human being.
The Gucci Leftist.
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sun May 15, 2011 09:35 PM PDTsomebody called this sandis khor woman with a big crush on "doctor" mammot and his agha a "leftist"! I wonder how many years of an Iranian factory worker's wages would be needed to pay for the necklace worn by this Beverly hills "leftist" mozdoor?
"leftist", my foot!
Here is a real leftist Iranian woman.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
i agree with simorgh and reality....
by shushtari on Sun May 15, 2011 09:14 PM PDTa couple of weeks in evin, and the 'nigthly' visits from the guards, and this lady will stop apologizing for the mullahs LOL
holy crap....
by shushtari on Sun May 15, 2011 09:02 PM PDTas soon as saw that idiot marandi, and the 'looney' expert, ulrich, I knew this would be another USA bashing session....without a mention of their paymasters' 30 years of brutality, theft, and deceit.
Rastgoo, you are hilarious you believe An was rightful winner
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sun May 15, 2011 08:52 PM PDTIf I knew that I would not wasted my time answering your post about your misguided view on Iranians.
For Now you are very lucky, The USA is doing everything in her power to make sure only radicals and fundamentalists can hold power in Iran, the greater middle east and north africa. One group of radicals against another to get its own new crazies in power.
The day will come when they can not do that anymore, at least now they have realized they can not contain them and soon they will have to turn back out and when that happens you AN, every single one of over 200,000 mullahs, basiji, VF, guardian council and all others will experience a very panful reality. At least worse than what they are dishing out at EVIN to stay in power.
Unlike the wishes of Reza Pahlavi, it will be in the peoples hands and they will have their justice. I don't think Iranians have the imagination to realize what will befall this regime (once it loses its secret international backing) and most economists see that happening in less than 10 years, by which time Russia and China will both be within the top 5 GDPs
Rastgoo, we are very niave if we don't pay attention to facts
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sun May 15, 2011 08:27 PM PDTGuess which secret service was funneling $150 million dollar wires at a time (and several times) to khomeini's account in france? (equal to $1.5 Billion in todays money)?
Guess who paid for training thousands of his followers in terrorist activities under the PLO's supervision?
Not conspiracy but has been widely written about since then and in several best selling books in the USA.
Below is An old but accurate piece from TIME. It wll help clear your mind a little bit, niavite is dangerous, your optimism is even more funny, shows that some of us still need to learn... and hopefully there are enough of us that learned to at least make a difference to offset the impact of the ignorant remainders.
(This originally appeared in the TIMES (London), 6 November 1984)
[Kindly uploaded and provided with notes by Freeman 10602PANC]
Who remembers Iran? Who remembers, that is, the shameful
stampede of Western journalists and intellectuals to the cause of
the Iranian revolution? Who remembers the hysterical propaganda
campaign waged against the Shah, the lurid press reports of
corruption, police oppression, palace decadence, constitutional
crisis? Who remembers the thousands of Iranian students in
Western universities enthusiastically absorbing the fashionable
Marxist nonsense purveyed to them by armchair radicals, so as one
day to lead the campaign of riot and mendacity which preceded the
Shah's downfall?
Who remembers the behaviour of those students who held as
hostage the envoys of the very same power which had provided
their 'education'? Who remembers Edward Kennedy's accusation
that the Shah had presided over 'one of the most oppressive
regimes in history' and had stolen 'umpteen billions of dollars
from Iran'?
And who remembers the occasional truth that our journalists
enabled us to glimpse, concerning the Shah's real achievements:
his successes in combating the illiteracy, backwardness and
powerlessness of his country, his enlightened economic policy,
the reforms which might have saved his people from the tyranny of
evil mullahs, had he been given the chance to accomplish them?
Who remembers the freedom and security in which journalists could
roam Iran, gathering the gossip that would fuel their fanciful
stories of a reign of terror?
True, the Shah was an autocrat. But autocracy and tyranny are
not the same. An autocrat may preside, as the Shah sought to
preside, over a representative parliament, over an independent
judiciary, even over a free press and an autonomous university.
The Shah, like Kemal Ataturk [umlaut over the 'u'], whose vision
he shared, regarded his autocracy as the means to the creation
and protection of such institutions. Why did no one among the
Western political scientists trouble to point this out, or to
rehearse the theory which tells us to esteem not just the
democratic process, but also the representative and limiting
institutions which may still flourish in its absence? Why did no
one enjoin us to compare the political system of Iran with that
of Iraq or Syria?
Why did our political scientists rush to embrace the Iranian
revolution, despite the evidence that revolution under these
circumstances must be the prelude to massive social disorder and
a regime of terror? Why did the Western intelligentsia go on
repeating the myth that the Shah was to blame for this
revolution, when both Khomeini and the Marxists had been planning
it for 30 years and had found, despite their many attempts to put
it into operation, only spasmodic popular support?
The answer to all those questions is simple. The Shah was an
ally of the West, whose achievement in establishing limited
monarchy in a vital strategic region had helped to guarantee our
security, to bring stability to the Middle East and to deter
Soviet expansion. The Shah made the fatal mistake of supposing
that the makers of Western opinion would love him for creating
conditions which guaranteed their freedom. On the contrary, they
hated him. The Shah had reckoned without the great death wish
which haunts our civilisation and which causes its vociferous
members to propagate any falsehood, however absurd, provided only
that it damages our chances of survival.
For a while, of course, those vociferous elements will remain
silent on the embarrassing topic of Iran, believing that the
collapse of Iranian institutions, the establishment of religious
terror, the Soviet expansion into Afghanistan and the end of
stability in the region are all due to some other cause than the
Iranian revolution. Those who lent their support to this tragedy
simply turned their back on it and went elsewhere, to prepare a
similar outcome for the people of Turkey, Nicaragua, El Salvador,
Chile, South Africa -- or wherever else our vital interests may
be damaged.
Of course, it is difficult now for a Western
correspondent to enter Iran, and if he did so it would not be for
fun. He could not, like the ghouls who send their despatches
from Beirut, adopt a public posture of the front-line hero. He
would have to witness, quietly and in terror of his life, things
which beggar description: the spontaneous 'justice' of the
revolutionary guards, the appalling scenes of violence, torture
and demonic frenzy, the public humiliation of women, the daily
sacrifice of lives too young to be conscious of the meaning for
which they are condemned to destruction.
He would also have to confront the truth which has been
staring him in the face for years, and which he could still
recognise had the habit of confessing his errors been preserved:
the truth that limited monarchy is the right form of government
for Iran, which can be saved only by the restoration of the
Shah's legitimate successor. But such a result would be in the
interests not only of the Iranian people, but also of the West.
Hence few Western journalists are likely to entertain it.
(6 November 1984)
Rastgoo
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun May 15, 2011 08:03 PM PDTThis is my last response on this matter to you. Reality-Bites already explained it. You admit the elections are not fair. Then turn and claim that AN won fairly. One more time I will go:
But you still insist that the election were somehow fair and AN won. Just come out and admit your real position. No more playing with words please! We had enough of pretense and made up excuses. That is why I am done with this sham debate.
..........
by yolanda on Sun May 15, 2011 08:07 PM PDTShe was Iranian of the Day a year ago:
//iranian.com/main/2010/sep/soraya-sepahpour-ulrich
She is an active member in CASMII:
//www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=columns
Amirparvizforseculardomcracy
by Rastgoo on Sun May 15, 2011 07:06 PM PDT"How come no one mentions The USA backed support for KHOMEINI"
Because we have shed the traditional Iranian conspiracy theory interpretation of history approach and we now believe that we make our own fate! This type of thinking and over anlayzing led us to see Imam's picture in the moon and the rest is history. I'm guessing that you are a monarchist, o wait, a secular monarchist,
and monarchists are the epitome of this faulty method of analysis.
All I know is that Soraya is really sexy!
by Immortal Guard on Sun May 15, 2011 06:55 PM PDTShe reminds me of the English porn actress Kay Parker!
How come no one mentions The USA backed support for KHOMEINI
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sun May 15, 2011 06:43 PM PDTSurely 1979 dwarfs all these foreign organised revolutions/arab spring.
Reality-bites and VPK
by Rastgoo on Sun May 15, 2011 06:41 PM PDTI agree that there are no free elections in Iran so long as there is a guardian council and that all the candidates are hand picked. However, this does not mean that there was cheating during the elections. I'm not saying that there is no cheating. What I claim is that there was not a significant amount of cheating for the followings reasons:
1. Polls both inside and outside Iran showed that AN was on track to win the elections. I respect the argument that telephone polls don't always tell the truth. But there were plenty of traditional polling that took place inside the country.
2. If there is always cheating then why do we accept that Khatami won 85% of the popular vote in 2001?
3. Why don't we see the lower classes in the demonstrations? The non-jean wearing and chaddor cladded masses? Ibelieve that is the reason why the Iranian revolution has not occurred yet even though it really began in the late 1990's: the lack of support from the lower classes (poor) in direct contrast with the 1979 revolution. The poor are mostly non-educated and hence easily swayed by their religious feelings. And there is no class in Islam that is more unholy than our holy men.
My contention is that the current state of the Green movement (paralysis) is due to the fact that it is not supported by the lower classes of the Iranian people. I'm not saying that the elections are democratic. But I believe that their own vetted elections are for the most part clean. I am just tired of foolishly believing 32 years of hyperbole from the Iranian opposition groups that this regime will fall any day. Unfortunately this is not true unless we manage to include the poor in the revolt and I'm sure it will happen in the future anyway but not just now.
To Zoroastrian "Pendar-e Neek"/ Marxist-Leninist Comrade
by AMIR1973 on Sun May 15, 2011 06:30 PM PDTWas our beloved Stalinist "Comrade" purged during a Communist Party cleansing and subsequently reincarnated as Zoroastrian words of wisdom? In any event, Cuba's much-vaunted (by West-residing Stalinists, of course) health care system is still below that of Costa Rica and capitalist Chile (where Pinochet ruled for almost 2 decades) in terms of life expectancy. In addition to longer life expectancies, Costa Rica and Chile have freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and multiparty democracies where one thuggish Soviet tool who has sat on his decrepit throne since 1959 doesn't hand off the state in a dynastic fashion to his own brother (not to be mistaken with the Marxist-Leninist Kim dynasty in that other Workers Paradise, North Korea). In a related development, hundreds of thousands of Cubans have risked life and limb to flee their Workers Paradise for capitalist US of A. What gives, O Comrade/Pendar-e Neek?
Rastgoo jaan
by Reality-Bites on Mon May 16, 2011 01:00 AM PDTA few points you need to consider about whether Ahmadinejad and indeed all elections under the IRI are proof if this regime has majority popular support in Iran.
1 The Majles/Parliament and the Presidency have no real power in Iran. The real power lies with the Supreme Leader and his appointed Guardian’sCouncil (Shoraayeh Negahbaan) who control the Army, Police, the Judiciary, Intelligent Services, and The Revolutionary Guards.
2- The Guardian Council, made up of 12 unelected Mullahs, also decides who can or can’t run for President (additionally the Council has the final say on any law that is passed by theMajles). If any candidate is not deemed sufficiently Islamic and pro-IR, he is not allowed to stand as candidate, no ifs and buts.
Indeed the Council consistently disqualifies even IR supporting candidates who might be somewhat reform minded from taking part in the election as candidates. So, the reality is no true opposition figure is ever allowed to run for presidential election in Iran. This means people, especially those living in rural areas, never get to hear the case by any real opposition figures as free speech/advertising/election campaigns by opposition are never allowed to happen in Iran.
3- So basically the people only have the hand-picked candidates to vote for, that have been especially vetted and selected by the Mullahs themselves. And if ever any of the hand-picked candidates, like Moussavi and Karroubi, unexpectedly make some noise about even limited reform and attract support from people who have no other choice, it's not much of a problem for the IR to ensure its preferred hardline candidate, like Ahmadinejad, ends up as the winner regardless of how the voting goes, because guess what?
The Mullas also control the entire election process, from setting up and manning the voting centers to transporting the ballets to making up names of people, who don't exist, to vote for their candidate and to doing the actual (mis)counting.
In other words, as well as not being truly open and free to all candidates, the IRI's election process in not in any way independently conducted or even monitored. The whole thing is controlled by the IRI from start to end. The idea of democracy under the IRI is joke.
4- Regarding questionnaire polls showing that IRI has popular support in Iran, well, as someone said earlier, it is highly unlikely that people in Iran, fearful of IRI's reaction/retribution, would be entirely honest with any overseas pollsters.
One last point my friend, if you don't believe Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich is an IRI mouthpiece after watching the clip in the article, then please take a look the clip posted by pedramx.
Rastgoo
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun May 15, 2011 05:58 PM PDTI agree she is a leftist sure. But she admires AN. I think her admiration for IR is based on hatred of the West. IR is against West so she is for IR. Plain and simple.
Regarding the elections I already said I think it was a sham. There is no such think as a free election in Iran. The reasons have been mentioned so many times I will not bother. to retell it.
VPK
by Rastgoo on Sun May 15, 2011 05:51 PM PDTAre you saying that she believes in the Islamic ideology of the regime? I think that she is basically a "leftist" (in quotation since they are not progressive but rather recessive) who is just so anti-American that the IRI has become a valid regime. Having said that the "left" will often argue that the IRI is a popular regime and has the people's mandate. They believe that the anti-imperialism of the regime is a progressive policy that should be supported by the left in the hope that it will eventually lead to other progressive notions like social welfare, and other social policies. So, I don't think that she's an Islamist but she is a leftist a la the Tudeh and the Fadaian majority. Her belief in the popularity of the regime may be well founded based on the election results.
"Cuba claims over 95% of the population votes..."
by پندارنیک on Sun May 15, 2011 04:35 PM PDT...and in case they get sick on the voting day, their doctor and/or hospital bills are covered by the state..........long story....sorry for the interruption....
AMIR1973 Jan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun May 15, 2011 04:34 PM PDTWell of course they are a sham. What kind of election preselects who runs? You nailed it right on the head. So long as there is a VF; "Assembly of ..." and this idiotic "constitution" there will not be free elections.
Not to mention gangs of thugs who beat you up if you campaign! They might as well be honest and openly admit it is a dictatorship.
VPK
VPK and Rastgoo: IRI "elections" are a sham
by AMIR1973 on Sun May 15, 2011 04:29 PM PDTFirst of all, the Leader of the country, who holds the most important position by far, can NOT be popularly elected. Rather, he was chosen by 86 Shia male "experts" 22 years ago and is basically the Leader for Life. Second of all, any man (since women basically cannot become president) that opposes Khomeinism, the ideology of the IRI, can NOT even stand for office. There is one and only one political line allowed in the IRI: Khomeinism, that's it (although different Khomeinist tendencies, like "reformist" or "conservative", etc. are present in the system, just as Eastern bloc countries had different Marxist tendencies). The USSR, Cuba, Syria, and North Korea all have sham "elections" too (and Cuba claims over 95% of the population votes in its "elections").
Rastgoo
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun May 15, 2011 04:25 PM PDTClearly by the way that she is dressed she is not a supporter of the IRI!
Wrong! Soraya is a well known dyed in the wool IRI supporter. Anyone who knows the least bit about her knows this fact. This is not like NIAC where we debate it. This is a known fact.
Anything out of her mouth is suspect.
I won't waste one minute listening to her nonsense. You need not wear a chador to be an IRI supporter.
Re: 2009 polls
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun May 15, 2011 04:20 PM PDTYou are right Iranian do not want to tell others how they voted. I am in the USA and still do not tell the pollsters how I voted. I either make something up or just hangup. It is in our blood after years of fear. Polls of Iranians are inaccurate.
........
by yolanda on Sun May 15, 2011 04:13 PM PDTHi! Vildemose,
She lives in Irvine.....I was wondering if Iranian.comers run into this lady........I drove by Irvine just yesterday!
It was funny that she kept rolling her eyeballs during the interview! LOL!
I saw her Riz Khan interview
by Simorgh5555 on Sun May 15, 2011 04:13 PM PDTI saw her Riz Khan interview as well. Why does she roll her eyes up all the time. Maybe she is waiting for divine intervention to help her.
Proof
by Rastgoo on Sun May 15, 2011 04:06 PM PDTLike the majority of you I am also against this regime and would love to see the Greens come to power and hopefully replace this regime with a secular Democracy. However, in all honesty there is no concrete evidence to suggest that the presidential vote was rigged. The evidence that exists is circumstantial and would be dismissed from any court with an ounce of respect for the rules of evidence. I think the Greens lost the election by the margin stated but we just cannot accept it. This I believe stems from a superiority complex that the well-off Iranians (middle class) have with respect to the common working folk in Iran. How dare their vote counts the same as mine? I am the teacher and the doctor and the engineer who is running this country! These workers are just ordinary common folk incapable of deciding for themselves! This is the motivation behind Soraya's assertions. Clearly by the way that she is dressed she is not a supporter of the IRI! And to claim that anyone who is not taking the Green's side is with the regime is ludicrous. I know it hurts but the Greens did not win the election and by extension they are not the majority of the Iranians. The majority of the Iranians are the poor workers who work for 16 hours a day for $20 and cannot make their ends meet. Unfortunately what we are seeing is deep class divisions in Iran. I really hope that I'm wrong and the majority of the Iranians are against this regime. But don't you think that if they were the Iranian regime would have gone the way of Tunisia or Egypt or Libya or Syria.....The middle class will not go out there and get itself killed. It has too much to look forward to. It is the poor and the downtrodden that is the instruments of change in any revolution and the Green movement has been unable to attract them so far.