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You can't have both ways old boy :))

Re criminality

Anglo, I don't know if you are pretending to be that slow, or you actually are?! For I call Nasiri a criminal, just as I call Saeed Mortazavi a criminal! Neither of these individuals had, or has had their day in a fair court! But that does not keep me from expressing my opinion about  them, for I am not holding any judicial position here. Do you understand? If not, let me elaborate; it means if I were a court official in charge of the trial of these individuals, or a member of the jury, my calling them a criminal would have disqualified me for the job. Whereas, as a layman, I have the right to express my opinion!

And regarding Razmara and Mosadegh; give it a rest, it's rdundant. not to mention irrelevant!

Back tracking so soon Arj?

Re breach of HR

Anglo, when I said violation of HRs of all should be condemned unequivocally, that includes those of the Pahlavi regime's officials -- including criminals such as Nasiri, who was the head of Shah's SAVAK! I don't know about "hundreds," but those Pahlavi regime's figures who were tried and a executed in an illegal manner, should've been given a fair trial in an open court for the whole nation to see and learn! That would've started the whole process of healing!

However, history did not end at 1979, and did not start then! When we say violations of HR must be condemned, regardless of time or regime change, that includes those as far back as 1979 and beyond! But unfortunately, for the supporters of IRI, history ends at 1979 and it does not include the crimes committed afterwards by the Islamic regime, and for supporters of the Pahlavi regimes, it's as if it started at 1979, and the crimes committed during the previous regime does not exist!

شكسته نفسي نفرماييد قربان

Dear Anglophile: I came to this site thinking I could not learn much. And you proved me wrong.

I always prided myself on my humility. There too you showed me new domains.

Thank you.

GR

زنده باشی‌ پهلوون

Dear Anglophile:

I love the way you argue your points. I thought I was the best until you came around. Beh gholeh zoorkhoonei ha: Ma long endakhtim!

However, Your Excellecy Anglophile, I beg of you to never forget the Tudeh Party traitors in your references to traitors in general.

I remember one sentence from one of the books written by the Shah, Mohammd Reza Pahlavi that we read in school. It was something like this: There are those entities who say let the country go down and we will go down with it.

Those who followed Khomeini couldn't care less about the future of our beloved country. For them deposing the Shah seemed to be their only objective. What would come next was of no concern to them.

Ironically I agree with you Arj jan!

Re historical context of violation of HR

Human right are human rights, period! Change of regime does not justify violation of HR! We're not talking about antient history here, but rather violation of HR under IRI that goes bask 33 years, as opposed to the same violations back in 34 years ago and prior to that under the Pahlavi regime!

Condemnation of IRI for such atrocities does not give a free pass to the Pahlavi regime for the same crimes, for it does not mean that in pre-1979 there were no Evin, Ghezel Hesar (and potentially Gohardasht) prisons full of political prisoners!

Good post

The Islamic regime spared the Pahlavis' number
1 enemy meaning Jebhe Melli. and Mossadeghollahis. The reason?  They
were each other's partners in crime as long ago as from the late 1940's.
Not to mention the JM's pivotal role in paving the way for Khomeini to
deceive the nation and gain "legitimacy". from Anglophile

Yes JM actively paved the way for extremism to gain root in Iran, that we all know from their actions not their words.  Lies about the previous regime will be exposed eventually to the satisfaction of most.  All this will have to come to court and peoples stories must be proven or else the other side now supported by most iranians if they could freely choose, will have cause for grievance and defamation.

Raoul1955 I remember around that time when word got

out about it, many people just disappeared from their families which were told they were gone, breaks my heart when I think of what the USA intentionally supported and what her goals for Iran are.  Today you might find an organization like amnesty has a list compiled for who the alleged prisoners were and from that you can find their families.  SUCH A SICK MANIPULATION BY THE USA ON IRANIANS.  So shocking that the opposition to the Shah don't take responsibility for bringing IRI to power and being used by the USA in its manipulation of iranians in support of the USA goal for Iran . 

دین ناب محمدی

I laugh at the chumps claiming isalm is religion of peace, it's by far the most blood thirsty violent faith in the world, anyone who dares to thinks different gets killed, as did these poor souls.

IR propagandists and apologists

In order to divert attention from the crimes committed by IR and all the problems Iranians have to deal with, IR propagandists and apologists bring in the Pahlavis and events of the past ninety years, pretending to have forgotten that Pahlavi dynasty was deposed some thirty-three years ago.

I am amazed at the impertinent amount of interest displayed in the historical events of pre-'79 and the little or no concern for the crimes perpetrated by the current regime and the issues at hand.

"one of the worst single human rights atrocities since WW2"

UN Judge and leading human rights lawyer, Geoffrey Robertson QC has urged the UN Security Council to set up a special court, along the lines of the International Tribunals for Yugoslavia and Rwanda, to try the men involved “for one of the worst single human rights atrocities since the Second World War.”

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_executions_of_Iranian_political_prisoners

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Does anyone

Know if there are actual documents in existence supporting the alleged executions?

Arj, you're too late

Arj,

This is the time to remember the victims of this horrific crime, not to be a smart guy. One has nothing to do with the other. No body talk about Versailles Treaty on the anniversary of Holocaust. 

Please rethink your cheap ways. 

The problem is you didn't say this in 1978-79 when you were too busy cheering your "Imam Khomeini" and his killings of "Taghutis" and "Pahlavi apologists." People like you have blood on their hands for supporting Khomeini. 

H. Michael Jalili is a writer based in the Gulf.

Thank you, thank you, thank you...

about time for these monsters to be exposed on a mass scale.  

BTW- the ridiculous and disingenuous comparison of the IR with the Pahlavi regime is akin to comparing someone who is convicted of disturbing the peace with Jeffrey Dahmer.   

Wrong again Arj!

Dark spot!

This is one of the darkest periods of state-sanctioned violence in our history! The Islamic regime, having used the facilities and mthodology it inherited from its equally criminal precursor pahlavi regime, and ironically killing and torturing the same political groups that Pahlavis deemed as enemies, managed to eclipse its predecessors in savagery and brutality!

Let's hope this teaches our nation a lesson to come to terms with unequivocal condemnation of the use of violence, torture and murder under any disguise and/or justification! Let their voices drown out the petty apologists and justifiers of state-snactioned violence against political oppopsition, whether under the criminal Islamic regime, or its predecessors and partners in crime, the Pahlavis!

FATWA, only effective invention of Islam

And how so many Muslim welling to be part of it, that’s their key to haven, sick religion.

With the hopes of one day soon and with the will of Iranians....

Accountability can take roots in Iran and to bring those responsible for not only the past crimes but the present crimes to justice.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad