CNN -- Two days of talks with Iran have failed to produce agreement on how to verify that Iran's nuclear program remains peaceful, the International Atomic Energy Agency announced Tuesday. Iran also refused to allow a team from the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency to visit its military base at Parchin, southeast of Tehran, during the two-day visit, the IAEA said. "Intensive efforts were made to reach agreement on a document facilitating the clarification of unresolved issues in connection with Iran's nuclear program, particularly those relating to possible military dimensions," an IAEA statement on the visit read. "Unfortunately, agreement was not reached on this document." >>>
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it is not about love
by مآمور on Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:01 PM PSTNo my firend, our love or hate feeling towards IAEAAAAAAIIII..... does not matter, what matters is how much we care!
I wear an Omega watch
If you don't like what the IAEA says, attack the IAEA
by AMIR1973 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:54 PM PSTI'm not sure it's a good tactic for the IRI to adopt, but it may be one of their few remaining options (along with obfuscation, prevarication, cover ups, stalling, and buying more time).
IAEA has become a political tool.
by Mohammad Ala on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:37 PM PSTTo visit a military base? How about IAEA visiting wherever they want and pass on the information to others as it has before? IAEA has become a political tool.
Rather than offering technology and safe-guard measures, IAEA has become a tool to harass a member country.
So if IRI wants to hide aspects of its peaceful nuclear program
by AMIR1973 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 07:35 PM PSTit should hide it in a military facility and then it can bar the IAEA inspectors all it wants. Sounds good to me.
Dear R_Bite: I believe you might not be fully correct here …
by Bavafa on Wed Feb 22, 2012 05:42 PM PSTBased on my limited knowledge, the IAEA is limited to inspect those locations that has nuclear material. They can’t randomly expect to visit every location they feel like, including Haj Mirza ghaseme baghal’s home :) Here is a excerb from NTP comprehensive safeguard agreement.
"The Agency´s right to carry out routine inspections under comprehensive safeguards agreements is limited to those locations within a nuclear facility, or other locations containing nuclear material, through which nuclear material is expected to flow (strategic points)."
//www.iaea.org/Publications/Factsheets/English/sg_overview.html
Also, as I understand it, any given member country is obligated to inform IAEA about any new nuclear site only six months prior to introducing any nuclear material/activity in that site and IRI has done so in case of their facility in Qom.
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
payam s
by Abarmard on Wed Feb 22, 2012 05:30 PM PSTYou are correct. These idiots and their propaganda will eventually take us all to WWIII. In IC page you will see an ex-CIA who takes a position that since Israel "wants" to have a war with Iran, then let's have it sooner than later!
It seems like we are living in a twilight zone with bunch of blood sucking bullies as leaders of the free world. They lie, lie, and lie some more about things that are not there and point at empty spots declaring shadows of things that have no mass... It's just pure nuts.
Payam
by Reality-Bites on Wed Feb 22, 2012 03:16 PM PSTYou say:
"... First of all, nowhere in the IAEA charter nor the NPT framework is it required for any nation to reveal their military bases...."
You are kind of giving the game away here. Can I point out to you that the IR claims Iran's nuclear installations are facilities to be used for producing nuclear power for "civilian" energy use and that they are NOT military bases?
That being the case, IAEA most definitely has the right under the NPT to inspect the installations. Furthermore, you are not correct in claiming that the IR "has ALWAYS complied with the IAEA". Just one example is the nuclear base near Qom which they IR had hidden away from everyone. The base was discovered by the West in 2009 and the IR had to finally come clean about it,
//www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/28/us-officials-how-we-disco_n_301770.html
Such nonsense!
by payam s on Wed Feb 22, 2012 02:51 PM PSTI can't believe people actually buy into this propaganda against Iran. This is complete BS. Notice the topic of the discussion in the video was IAEA and Iran, which was alloted a mere 20 seconds in a 3 minute sigment which rambled on about sanctions and oil prices. That's cause they have nothing to say but lies. First of all, nowhere in the IAEA charter nor the NPT framework is it required for any nation to reveal their military bases. No country with genuine sovereignty would allow such intrusion. As a matter of fact, those same countries pushing such policy on Iran (US, Israel) are completey immune to IAEA inspections of their nuclear facilities, their nuclear weapons programs, and their production of new generation nuclear weapons; nevermind their production of WMDs and their military bases. This is hypocrisy at its best. Iran has ALWAYS complied with IAEA inspections in accordance to its charter and framework. There is absolutely no evidence of nuclear weapons program. Anyone suggesting this is anything but baseless propaganda is a moron.
The Mafias' Hide & Seek Games
by Demo on Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:22 AM PST"If the Islamist Rapist Republic (IRR) had nothing to hide, it would open all its nuke sites to IAEA inspectors."
When it comes to the 'organized religious' mischiefs, the Israelis are allowed to hide with no seeking is allowed, but their Iranians buddies are not supposed to hide because they are ought to be sought @ all times! And that is called the new 'Mafias of 1%' ruled world order to keep the 99% in limbos!
Who killed Iranian sceintists
by Abarmard on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:50 AM PST-Israel has never denied the murdering of Iranian sceintists. In many interviews some US and Israeli officials proposed killing of Iranian scientists as a method to delay Iranian progress! Where have you been?
//www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=257168
//bigpondnews.com/articles/World/2012/01/13/US_has_an_idea_who_killed_Iran_scientist_706945.html
(“Were the MeK (MKO) to play the critical role in derailing an Iranian bomb, it would be far more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize than a certain president of the United States we could mention,” a New York Post editorial read on Friday.)
//www.loonwatch.com/2012/02/us-officials-confirm-israel-financing-training-and-arming-mek-terrorists-to-murder-iranian-scientists/
//www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a7_1328821029&comments=1
IAEA has visited all Iranian sites
by Abarmard on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:41 AM PSTThey have broken trust for further negotiations on possible military and security sites when they forwarded Iranian nuclear information and scientists to Israel.
Iran has, out of trust building mechanism, provided more information that required to IAEA without any benefits in return what so ever. Besides a few warmongers here and there, and most of Israeli government officials, the majority of US administration and IAEA personnel do not believe that Iran has a weapon program.
Some sources that I suggest you investigate:
//larouchepac.com/node/21190
//www.neimagazine.com/story.asp?storyCode=2053067
Full interview
https://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2011/Bastin_Interview.pdf
Negotiation must be based on give and take
by Bavafa on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:40 AM PSTAny negotiation must be based on applied law and with the intention of give and take. Based on my limited knowledge of NTP rules, only nuclear sites are subject to inspection and Parchin is a military base and not a nuclear site. According to Wikipedia, Parchin was inspected before and no unusual activity was found. Also given the fact that some of the info [illegally] has been passed on from IAEA inspectors to the intelligent agencies, one can understand the reluctance of IRI to open up its military base to them.
Having said that, for a fair and credible negotiation, IAEA must identify all concern and IRI must work to satisfy those concerns. These need to be in a confidence building measures and not a moving goal post where each concern is followed by some more unusual and unjust concern, like we saw before the illegal and criminal Iraq invasion.
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
Abarmard
by Reality-Bites on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:40 AM PSTReagrding this claim of yours:
"...This was supposed to be negotiation rather than dictation of IAEA to Iran, an organization who illegally submitted names of Iranian scientists to Israeli agents and terrorists. Those names were provided by Iranian officials to build trust for future negotiation yet the IAEA submitted that sensitive information to the enemies of Iran..."
Care to provide any proof to back up your accusation?
Whilst on the subject, all NPT signatory countries are bound by the terms of the agreement to open up their nuclear installations for inspection by the IAEA. If the IR actually complied with its obligations and allowed the IAEA inspectors access, not only would it eventually get the sanctions lifted, but totally neutralize the threat of an Israeli military strike.
However, as the IR WANTs and WELCOMES conflict, it is continuing to obfuscate, frustrate and play the belligerent card.
Put it this way, the one thing that will eventually guarantee an attack on Iran is not cooperation with the IAEA, but a lack of it. And that is exactly what the regime wants. So, if you wish to continue cheerleading the IR's approach, please do carry on.
Article III of IAEA Charter
by Faramarz on Wed Feb 22, 2012 08:27 AM PSTArticle III of IAEA Charter authorizes the Agency to establish and administer safeguards to ensure that the nuclear material, equipment, services and information are not used in such a way as to further any military purpose.
Several countries including Brazil, Argentina, Japan, S. Africa and Canada complied fully with this requirement and removed any doubt about the peaceful nature of their programs.
But the Regime in Iran is trying to be sneaky about it and develop a weapons program in secret.
Let's not beat around the bushes here. This Regime has always been about "Marg bar Amrika" and is in a state of war with the international community and on a daily basis rejects democracy, liberalism and the rule of law. Recenly, it has also come out in the open conducting acts of terrorism in places like Georgia, India, Azarbaijan and Thailand.
Let's put them out of their miseries, one way or another.
Giving out sensitive
by Abarmard on Wed Feb 22, 2012 07:40 AM PSTGiving out sensitive information about Iranian security is treason. You give it to them, they give it to Israel and next thing you know Iran is bombed.
This was supposed to be negotiation rather than dictation of IAEA to Iran, an organization who illegally submitted names of Iranian scientists to Israeli agents and terrorists. Those names were provided by Iranian officials to build trust for future negotiation yet the IAEA submitted that sensitive information to the enemies of Iran. This act was a clear violation of signed treaties and unethical move by IAEA personnel.
The IAEA, in a fair and neutral political body, if such thing existed, should be put on trial for taking parts in murdering Iranian citizens.
IAEA is nothing more than an organization yet it is more than capable in recognizing if Iran is developing high grade uranium. They have all the data to indicate Iranian peaceful nuclear technology yet under certain pressure or political game, provide reports that in it has too many speculations, theories, and lies about Iranian technology and its advancements. Iran has done more than it is required based on any treaties and policies of NPT and that’s enough.
If Western governments want to use excuses pressuring Iran then providing more information about Iranian security and military is nothing more than useless. Iran is responsible to its people in keeping them safe from warmongering/bankrupted Western governments by keeping information away from these alleged murderers who are walking freely after taking part in killing five Iranians.
Losing sense of right or wrong because one holds grudges against Mullahs and IR system is as wrong as anything else being wrong. Being just is always more important and ethical responsibility of all individuals before being revengeful.
End of story.
Negotiations were never an Option
by Faramarz on Wed Feb 22, 2012 06:46 AM PSTOnce again it is shown that the Regime is not interested in resolving these issues peacefully and through engagement and negotiations. It is just stalling for time.
On with the sanctions.
Warmongers with nuke
by Fred on Wed Feb 22, 2012 06:22 AM PSTIf the Islamist Rapist Republic (IRR) had nothing to hide, it would open all its nuke sites to IAEA inspectors.
However, since it is after nuke bomb, it makes sense for the warmongering messianic Islamist Rapists who want to "manage the world" to deny access to the inspectors.