Pahlavi on formation of national congress

Interview with Masih Alinejad

در این گفتگو که در ژانویه ۲۰۱۲ منتشر شده است رضا پهلوی از تلاش خود برای تشکیل یک کنگره ملی خبر می دهد و در پاسخ به این سوال که آیا می خواهد در این کنگره بالانشین و رهبر باشد می گوید چنین قصدی ندارد و هدف او همراه کردن همه نیروهای اپوزوسیون است. او در عین حال از ذکر اسامی تیم همراه خود برای تشکیل چنین کنگره ای خودداری کرد. رضا پهلوی در این مصاحبه به چالش هایی در مورد عنوان «ولیعهدی» خود، دیکتاتور خوانده شدن پدرش در انقلاب ۵۷، ماجرای مصدق، موضوع شکایت از خامنه اي، وضعیت اپوزسیون خارج از کشور و هدف خود برای تغییر رژیم به سوالات مسیح علینژاد پاسخ می دهد.



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04-Jan-2012
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Arj

Re freedom of speech!

by Arj on

VPK, if you don't get it, that's you problem! I have stated time and again that, IMO, RP's position of fence-sitting is ambiguous and dishonest! What is it exactly that you want me to say; that I personally hate him?! No, I don't. I just find his positions questionable! So what if I even say I oppose him? Are you saying that I don't have the right to say so?!

P.S. For someone who believes that Hollocaust denial is a form of free of speech, it's ironic that you have a problem with my "nay saying" and "pretending to have questions instead of plainly saying you oppose RP."

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Dear RG, I see this site as a discussion forum rather than one for socializing. Hence, who people may be as opposed to who they claim to be, is least of my concerns! I don't care for groupings and line ups, hence I judge everyone by what they have to say, and react to it based on my opinion! Sometimes it may seem supporting or opposing a group, breaking taboos or red tapes, so be it! As far as I'm concered, people can think of me in whatever way they want, as long as they don't try to shut me up! For I'm here to express my opinion and learn a thing or two in the process, which I do -- especially that there are a handful of commenters here from whom I learn immensely!


Siavash300

The term "Shahollai" is an insult to Iran history

by Siavash300 on

"...What I'm trying to assert here (especially to the Shahollai crowd, again, I don't care....." Arj

Dear Arj,

     This term that you frequently use is an insult to Iran's history. Commingling the word "allah" which is created by bare feet arab desert with "shah" which reflects the glogy of Persian civilalization is not appropraite. The word "Allah" should be deleted from Farsi vocabulary because the word Allah brought misery to our country for 32 years such as said": Allah o akbar". We have a beautiful word for creator in Farsi that gives the same meaning. It is "Parvardegar". Very lovely word.

 Needless to say when Arabs invaded Iran and massacred our ancestors, they keep referring to "Allah" helped them. The correct word that you have to use, if you don't mind,  is Patriatic crowd or rahter Patriatic people. They are patriatic because they love Iran and they respect Iran history.

Sincerely,

Siavash


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Arj

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Now, what is it that you have a problem with?!

I have a problem with your insults and nay saying. With fake conditions meant to derail progress. With pretending to have questions instead of plainly saying you oppose RP. Why not be honest and say where you stand. Many others do.


Arj

Re conditions!

by Arj on

VPK, I don't give a hoot about RP, as I don't about Musavi, Khatami and the rest of the people who might have some bases of support! You think RP is not in the same league, good for you! I certainly don't give a damn about who you like or support! What I'm trying to assert here (especially to the Shahollai crowd, again, I really don't care if you are one or not!) is that people (that includes the interviewer) have the write to ask RP (or Musavi, Khatami...) whatever question about whatever issue they find curious without being intimidated and bullied -- or like the above interviewer, be refered to in derogatory terms and likened to a "porn star!"

Now, what is it that you have a problem with?! Did I even say that I care who you support!

Have a nice life!


G. Rahmanian

Dear Arj:

by G. Rahmanian on

Sit back for a day or two and read what others write and see how much of it makes sense when put in any realistic context. You/we don't know who we are dealing with on this site. I don't even know who you are and vice versa. At this point, whatever is claimed by anyone should be treated as a claim. We don't know what the future will bring. There are people on this site or elsewhere who claim to be fighting against the regime, but at times repeat regime's propaganda. Perhaps, inadvertently. I say perhaps because I simply don't know who they are. There are people who claim to have monopoly over everything, from erudite knowledge of history to knowing what every Iranian should think. One is almost claiming he has monopoly over feeling other people's pains. It's as crazy as it can get.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Arj

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I don't want to get in an endless debate. You do not speak for everyone; just for you. If you want to set conditions for your support fine. Other people will set their own conditions and it is not up to you.

I am satisfied with RP as is. Another individual may require other things. Some like I believe you may never be willing to go along with him. Fine; that is democracy and individual choice; I made mine.


Esfand Aashena

Religion joon do as I say not as I do?! You do the same, ok?

by Esfand Aashena on

Everything is sacred


religionoutofgovernment

Esfand joon, kakapesar

by religionoutofgovernment on

If you have nothing intelligent to say, its better not to say anything!


BacheShirazi

AmirParviz

by BacheShirazi on

The main stream media could never do an interview like this with RP. They occasionally do 5 minute interviews with him, but they have to think about what news or what people their audience actually wants to see. By far the vast majority of people who watch main stream media news are, as you know, not Iranian and would have no interest in watching it.

 

 Which westerner is going to care or want to watch a 30 minute interview with Reza Pahlavi? It's like expecting Iranians to watch a half hour interview with a Mongolian politician. The western media has to appeal to their audiences. 


Esfand Aashena

بچه‌ها لوس انجلس آنقدر لوسند که رضا جون باید condo ش سر جاش باشه

Esfand Aashena


و الا دوباره مکافات داریم!

Everything is sacred


religionoutofgovernment

"I wonder if there is anything we can do"

by religionoutofgovernment on

The best thing the monarchists and royalists can do is follow his vision of a regining but not ruling monarch. They need to stop their harsh rheteric and attacks on people who rightly critisize his father's dictatorial rule. Instead, they need to emphasize the social freedoms and other advancements made in his rule. By being historically honest, they will be in a better position to support RP.


Jeesh Daram

....

by Jeesh Daram on

دروغ عرض میکنم؟  چطور آخوندها بتوانند با بستن حوله بسرشان و نپوشیدن شورت (زیر شلواری) زیر عبایشان بسر کار و بالای منبر بروند،  ولی کارمند دولت کت شلوار بپوشد و کراوات بزند و صنار سه شاهی هم پول بخور و نمیر در بیاورد.  اینها در صدر قانون اساسی باید جای بگیرد و کاردار فرهنگی انگلستان هم در این مورد نظر مساعد دارد. فقط مانده ایرانیان لوس آنجلس موافقت کنند، چون ظاهرا سرنوشت امپراطوری ایران در دست همین بچه های لوس آنجلس است 


Red Wine

...

by Red Wine on

بعید میدانیم مردمانِ بزرگوارِ سواد کوه،این چنین افتخاری به ایشان دهند،ایشان بیش از ۶۰ میلیون دلار دارند،۴ اتاق در همان تهران خراب شده بخرند،مالیاتِ پولِ خلق را که ابوی بالا کشیده به نرخ روز بپردازند،بقیه را خود دانند و مردمِ ایران.


Esfand Aashena

ایشون می‌تونن با دولت "شخصی‌" خودشون هر غلطی دلشون خواست بکنند!

Esfand Aashena


Everything is sacred


Jeesh Daram

آری

Jeesh Daram


ولی بشرط آنکه اجازه بدهند که تمام کارمندان دولت با پیژامه به اداره بروند.  توی آن گرمای تابستان کی حالشو داره کراوات بزنه. آن خدابیامرز میگفت "از ایران میخواهند ایرانستان بسازند"  منظورش همین پیشنهاد بنده است و سوق دادن مملکت بطرف پاکستانی شدن ایران 


Esfand Aashena

JD و RW جان، قرار شد براش یک condo بخریم به شرط قطع مزخرفات!

Esfand Aashena


شراب قرمز جان اشگال نداره بذار خبر دردش یک اتاق تو نیاوران بهش می‌دیم تا کار ساختمان condo ش تمام بشه!  یک condo  هم با خرج مردم ایران براش می‌خریم که نق و ناله دیگه نکنن!

Everything is sacred


Arj

Re some points

by Arj on

To bring up a hypothetical assumption as the premise of a claim, then asking people to disprove that claim is a perfect example of inductive fallacy! For instance, I can claim that Santa Claus and unicorns exist and those who don't believe so, will have to prove that they don't! Of course, there's no way for anyone to disprove the existense of Santa Claus, but that doesn't mean a mere hypothesis should be the premise for a strategic discourse solely based on impossibility of disproval of that hypothesis!  So, at the present time, bringing up the issue of RP's vote count without any actual elections or at least opinion polls, is as good as debating over Santa! That does not mean that I'm equating our political affairs with the issue of Santa Claus (for those logically challenged among us!), but only to underline the fallacy!

When I say that we should be able to ask RP whatever question about whatever issue that we find questionable about him, I don't mean myself. But rather the entire Iranian nation which includes the interviewer, Ms. Alinejad, without being intimidated or bullied! I personally have no question about what RP stands for!

Finally, with regards to leadership, it does not matter whether it's RP or anyone else who might have an aspiration of running for any office -- even as high a level as presidency! They should know that they will be hired and sworn in as the servants of the nation who is employing them for a set period of time and check out if they're doing a good job, then decide to re-elect them or kick their ass out of the office if they're not!

 


Jeesh Daram

....

by Jeesh Daram on

رد واین عزیز خیلی خوشم آمد و راست میگوئید.  اول خواستم نواحی سوادکوه  را پیشنهاد کنم دیدم اهالی بهیچوجه قبول نمیکنند و میگویند توی سر زمینهایشان میخورد و قیمتها افت میکنند.  طرفهای صابون پزخانه و باغچه ولی خان چطور است؟


Red Wine

...

by Red Wine on

خیر جیم دال جان ... عمارتِ نیاوران متعلق به مردمِ ایران است،تشریف برند جای و محلِ دگر .


Jeesh Daram

خودمختاری

Jeesh Daram


میتواند در قسمتی از نیاوران اعلام خودمختاری کند.  چرا که نه؟  انگلستان که بیجاره حرفی ندارد،  آنها فقط نفت را میخواهند و به شهوات ملی ما کار ندارند 

آدم یاد محمد ضاهرشاه و مراجعت او به افغانستان میفته و داستان حسن کچل و آن عقاب سرنوشت ساز.  همان عقاب سمبولیک  آمریکا.   


G. Rahmanian

To Those Who Claim RP

by G. Rahmanian on

To Those Who Claim RP Will Not Get Most Votes: Prove It!


vildemose

Dear Mehraban: I couldn't

by vildemose on

Dear Mehraban: I couldn't agree more. The fake HR activists have done a great deal of damage while getting their paycheck from IRI. I still am confused on the position of the so-called reformers? Do they want regime change and secular democracy or a more user-friendly theocracy??
Maybe Ms. Masih Alinejad can enlighten us in that regard.

 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


aynak

Re: JJ Good or Bad

by aynak on

 

  JJ:"If there were free elections in Iran, Reza Pahlavi would get the highest vote. That's reality. Like it or not, good or bad."

 

JJ jan, don't get overexcited (Jav Zadeh Nasho).   Your site is fully blocked in Iran.   (I know because I tried to access it while there and could not).

But you should already be able to tell the locality from all the IP addresses.  The sample you see in iranian.com (by the Cyber Army of Hezbollah and Shah o Allah), is by no way indication of public opinion poll.   In Iran, having spoken to many university students and highly educated folks, I have yet to see supporters of RP.   It is funny that sometimes they think because I left before revolution I am pro-shah :) so they try to explain to me a different vision :)

Remember, the new generation of Iranians are mostly from family of 2 or 3 at most and all the kids consider themselves prince and princess :) 

 I should add sympathy for him is the new level of thinking that kid is not responsible for his dad crime, but not that Kid should become the next VF.

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Some thing is changing s l o w l y.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

It would be great to start to have some of the Main Stream Media Start Approaching RP and interviewing him on Big News Topics like this.  I wonder if there is anything that we can do to speed up the change taking place and have MSM do its duty to report the news.


faryarm

Iran Will Never Be Iran again Until...

by faryarm on

'ایران ایران نمیشه تا از ریشه درست بشه ' Iran Will Never Be Iran again til it heals from its roots.. We desperately need Unity in Iran; if RP can be accepted and become a symbol to bring about such concencus, then more power to him 

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Arj about questions

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

You may ask anything you want. No one is under an obligation to respond. People decide who to support on their own. Not based on what you tell them. I am satisfied for now to support RP to form an opposition.

If someone wants to ask go for it. But I am not going to change my position based on your questions. Nor do I care whether anyone responds or not. Just to be clear you have your vote. You may not agree with how other vote but that is democracy.

Mehrban: I have no problem with anyone elected to a position. But rather keep the structure to a minimum. I rather focus on action not positions and think too much management is bad.


Siavash300

Arj and new generation of Iranian

by Siavash300 on

"why shouldn't we, as ordinary citizens and his ptential future employers, be able to question him on every single issue we find questionable?! " Arj

Future employers? are you talking about Iranians as a employer or you're talking about Great Satan as stinky mullahs were speaking about? In your previous comment you were talking about new Iranian generation such as your newphew...etc. That kind of thinking that you mentioned in the above paragraph doesn't belong to new Iranian generation. It belong to Islamic era generation that brought misery to our nation and destroyed our country for 32 years.

Sincerely,

Siavash


Mehrban

Arj and VPK

by Mehrban on

I envision this organization as a truly Democratic one.  I do not even see RP necessarily as its head or the head of its board unless he is voted into that position by the members and for a specific period of time.

The people Arj mentions could also be directors (heads, whatever) of such an organization if they have the votes.  


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Responses

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

  • Mehrban: agreed but it may turn out the organization does more. Given how much repressions we got in Iran we may be all there is.
  • Arj part 1: opinions will change as people are viewed as leaders. Just watch how opinions on Republican primaries change weekly. Once RP is viewed as viable people will gather and support him. Nobody is talking dictatorship (maybe a few) but we need a leader. I know you don't like Pahlavi and don't think you will ever support him. That is your right but your side had their change and gave us IRI. I bet people are ready for a different path.
  • Arj part 2: I agree with DK about Elaheh who? I never heard of the people you mentioned. To do justice I did a Google search. All I got to say is "are you joking?". I watched her shilling for Islamic Republic on youtube. The one thing I do not trust is self appointed "Human Rights" activists. Is that a job or what. No thanks I go for the known person RP. Much damage was done to Iran by HR activists and I want no more.

Darius Kadivar

Tea for Two Points: Elaheh Who ? ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on