Pictory

zia111, reflect on this thought

If the late shah really made a mistake to trust the americans and british, as even he himself half suggested in his book, then how come the way he and his team set up their alliances with the USA, France & UK occured, so that if they were to kill him and up root the monarchy and if they would bring to power a colonial creation intended to stiffle Iranians with poverty, corruption &, brutality (all of which the trio did accomplish), the trio would have ZERO capability to contain any government they would bring to power and they would also have ZERO capability to have dialogue with any government they would bring to power.  Green movement didn't work, negotiations haven't worked and killing khameneii wo't work either as all the ayatollahs are on the same page. 

The national security of USA/UK/France is virtually non existent, if they lose the civil war they are starting in Syria.  Even george bush knew enough to say publicly, a nuclear armed IRI will start ww3 and as you may know the usa/uk/france are all geopolitically at a disadvantage to Russia/China/India(opposition) (EU/Japan/Brasil more neutral but still opposition).

The Trio were really very stupid, from the standpoint of national security, to put themselves in the position they are in today.  I don't think he trusted them, he just didn't think they would be so stupid as to put themselves in a no win sitution for the sake of winning a few battles yet losing the war for their own freedom, in a region vital to their freedom.

Thank you dear Darius

Afarin Anglophile Jan

anglophile wrote: "Your deceased father, if indeed as Kaveh says is a true story, was in the army for a purpose. That ultimate puprose of being a soldier is to be prepared to lose your life to save your country (with or without the C-in-C). If your father was there for any other reason then he was in the wrong job. I have seen many of such people as you. You have enjoyed the priviledges extended to an army family while the going was good and towed the Shah's line where necessary but when things took a turn for the worse, you guys thought only of saving yourselves. When the going was good the Shah was not a thief or a dictator (or at best he was a benevolent one). But when the going was tough the same Shah was thieving monarch and a brutal dictator. Your double standards are shouting out of this page.
Even if true, you are not the only son or daughter who has lost their father to the revolution. Again I have seen many of them whose support and understanding for the position of the late monarch has not been afftecd by their personal tragedy."

Anglophile jan even Persia's greatest foe Alexander best defined this lot when he rightly observed that Treachery runs in Persian blood ...

Only a King Can Slay a King ...

Meegham Har Iroony keh meegeh Jomhurykhah hast Heechee az Vatan Parasty va manayeh Padeshahy dar keshvaremoon roh dark nakardeh.

Vaghty meegeem "Javid Shah" ya mesleh Engeleesyha "God Save The King or Queen" een Fard Parasty neest. The King or Queen in all monarchies embodies the nation and there is no distinction made between loyalty to the King and Loyalty to the Country.

As for Democracy and why certain monarchies became democratic while others remained dictatorial that is another debate which I am willing to have but the blunt reality is that if democracy is a legitimate aspiration ... Patriotism on the otherhand is a Duty.

Hence defining in Iranian terms Patriotism outside the framework of the Monarchy as  Iranian Jomhurykhahs have attempted to do for the past 33 years including our "Liberal Democrats" is an oxymoron when applied to a Land of Kings no matter from which perspective you look at it. 

Shah

AnglohileI was right about you. And your commend. This is your real picture dear old vise man.Learn something’s in your life I do not know remain time for you. But please learn you and rest of people like you must learn from what you did not learn in your life.You are expressing yourself as a Shah DOOST here.Please rest and have some manner vise man, if it is real good word for you.

Zia joon

 ما خیلی‌ وقته لنگش کردیم!

anglophiاe

باز گفتی لنگش کن

His mistake was he trusted the Americans and the British

And they stabbed him in the back and f*cked the rest of us in the process. Yes, he was a great man whose like won't be seen for a long, long time.

Ruhash shad va yadash gerami!

Javid Shah!

His army was a bunch of over-fed disloyal chickens

I am not telling you about any story dear boy, YOU ARE! You involve  the commetns with your so called personal (if factual at all) story and then tell others don't involve yourself in my story!!!

Your standards are no better than a whinging/whining granny moaning about her self inflicted wounds. As I said it before: mature up.

Shah

anglophileWhat a wonderful advice from another saltanattalab.Can read and smell the AIRHe left his men behind, his army paid for his mistake, do not tell me about the story which you are not involve at all.Keep it for yourself, open your eyes and see what is happening around. So, why you did not stay and flight for him or your!!!!!!!!Happy that my standards is more than you so I can stay out of this page not talking to washed brain person like you.

Shah

Kaveh KhanAbsolutely I will take your advice and not talking to any people like you which can not read point of what is talking about.You already have your answer by written and telling some body is narrow minded, you have your answer.Play with your dream

Shah

Dear Elham 57  First my name is jmyt17 not what you written, let is have a some manner　that is a problem with Slatanattalaban.He (Naseredin Shah) to me = Mohammad Reza shah ? Stick with him, that is a reason 34 years running around the globe.

So! Yours is a personal grudge!

It is OK jmyt17, keep moaning but not a single intelligent critique of the Shah can be expected from a personal and baseless fued such as yours. Your deceased father, if indeed as Kaveh says is a true story, was in the army for a purpose. That ultimate puprose of being a soldier is to be prepared to lose your life to save your country (with or without the C-in-C). If your father was there for any other reason then he was in the wrong job. I have seen many of such people as you. You have enjoyed the priviledges extended to an army family while the going was good and towed the Shah's line where necessary but when things took a turn for the worse, you guys thought only of saving yourselves. When the going was good the Shah was not a thief or a dictator (or at best he was a benevolent one). But when the going was tough the same Shah was thieving monarch and a brutal dictator. Your double standards are shouting out of this page.

Even if true, you are not the only son or daughter who has lost their father to the revolution. Again I have seen many of them whose support and understanding for the position of the late monarch has not been afftecd by their personal tragedy.

In short, jmyt17, grow up, and for once BE A MAN not a whinging granny.

JMYT17

Do yourself a favor and get out of this while you are already very far behind. It's impossible to engage in any kind of dialogue with someone who is so narrow-minded like yourself. You clearly harbor a deep seated animosity to the one person who arguably did more than anyone else to advance Iran into the 20th century, and you have this animoisty for the most petty of reasons (assuming that you are in fact telling the truth, which I doubt.) 

jmbze! Upset? Me?

"He run that country over 50 years"

Really?

Aren't you confusing Naseredin Shah with Mohammad Reza shah ?

Shame & Blame

Amirparvizforsecularmonarchy:

 I cannot see in any parts in me commend( shame & blame) reality good word for it..First what is your point? If you are in love with him and his family keep it for yourself, I do not need any share or parts of it.I am not a fan of IRI or him at all, but you mixing a point.From now on I will blame first his cancer, second blame IRI third blame U.S.A or EU, and who else do want to me blame for all of you.

Shah

Kaveh Khan If I wear you, please keep your money, maybe someday you will needed.When it is reality, why every shah’s supporter putting in Blame or complain?He run that country over 50 years, and know problem is he has the cancer.Let’s blame cancer for what he done.

Ey baba

If I had a nickel for every time I hear someone complain about the Shah the way you do, jmt17, I would have that $60 billion you covet ten times over.

jmyt17 your shame & blame are both misguided, like azarbanoo

"when rest of his army man like my father left behind and killed by IRI dirty hand." 

Many many good Iranians were murdered and not even in the army, people working in non political positions, like university secretary, steel industry engineers, miners etc murdered in cold blood for supporting the iranian monarchy. By who and with who's help?????

By the militias the USA paid khomeini to get trained to be ready for 1979 to be certain its extremists would take over and cause Iran to regress, trained in libya, by yasser arrafats militia.  With who's help??? The USA increased its embassy staff from 20 to almost 100 staff mostly cia, to help deliver names and details of people that were coming to the US embassy coming for help thking that they wanted the democracy supporters to win.  Ordinary people, betrayed to their deaths, thinking the USA was an ally of the Shahs."All the US embassy documents that were shredded after the embassy take over were put together and published, they provide clear evidence with details of US activities in helping khomeini's goons murder thousands of iranians".  Just like today how many people do we see on IC dead or prisoners of conscience for a govt the USA is covertly helping keep in power and openly negotiating with in order to keep in power until it is ready to unleash a war for proffit on the country???????  

So Jmyt17 reality being what it is, How come you put blame on a king that was dying of cancer and in no position to order the slaughter of deceived masses who he spent his life and power serving????  Why do you think that the shame and mistakes are with the shah?????   You know exactly where the shame and blame lie, not with the shah, nor with his team.  You know the shah and his team were dying victims who were totally powerless against the scope and size of force that was united against them.  So whats your story really? Is it guilt?  Are you living in the USA and instead of directing shame and blame with the USA who, doesn't care about human rights or democracy for Iranians, actively removed the shah disingenuously labelling him a dictator, corrupt, excessively repressive, despite the peace, progress, human rights and democratic policies he pursued for the good of the majority of Iranians.  You are instead misguiding both shame and blame at a king who does not deserve either! 

Really how agab oftadeh are Iranians if this is where our thoughts are at after all this?  Instead of attacking the king and his family for leaving Iran with less money than even the spanish monarchy or monarchies of poorer countries spend on their monarchies in a single year, 33 years later, praise him for helping create the largest growth in education and middle class in the world, taking Iran as a country from 80th to 9th wealthiest country during his time as king.  He doesn't deserve betrayal from his own people as well as Irans so-called friends.  He deserved far better than what he, his prime minister and personal doctor got from the USA.

Shah

Dear Elham 57

Frankly speaking what is your point and why you are so upset??

in a nutshell!

...

the Western news media who are trying to make a boogie out of us!

nonsense! ... establish a new empire, to do what?

Good answer and RIP.

A great man all around!

The world will not see his kind any time soon!

Javid Shah!

jmy170000

Last chance to make up your mind: 60 Million, or 60 Billion?

As you may know, this is 60 million Dollars:

$60,000,000.00

and this is 60 Billion Dollars:

$60,000,000,000.00

And this is 60 trillion Dollars:

$60,000,000,000,000.00

I'd say, go for 60 trillion. kee be keeyeh...

Shah The king of the King

Wonderful comment from all of his supporter around the globe.US$60 billion approval just when you have a time go and find by yourself or please send some time read what the rest of world know and you don’t.Respect sure, would you please advise me bit more what kind of respect I have to show for him, when rest of his army man like my father left behind and killed by IRI dirty hand. Sure I will think deeply and hope to find a way to take your advice form having some less respect for him.

My two cents (if worth that much)

He (the king) seems recklessly frank for a politician, maybe that was the style of the day.  

Ps.  There seems to be such an immense vacuum in place of anyone else besides the king and the empress being interviewed by the world press, such as the prime minister or the head of the military (for example) on the subject of Iran at that time.    

The Shah

He was way too advanced and modern for the backward Iranians of the time .majority of Iranians are nothing but a whole bunch of barbaric animals stuck in the middle . 

$60 billion?

Can you prove any of it?

And even IF he did have that much, GOOD! Call it severance pay for being f**ked over.

It's a mere pittance compared to the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS that these thieving goons have stolen, squandered, embezzled, misappropriated and withheld from the Iranian nation and people.

Azarbanoo neither of those 2 actions resulted in 1979

or would have made a difference in where Iran is today. 

1)  The Constitution of Iran, whch he did not create, but was required by law to observe and defend required the king to recognize the Shia faith as the official religion of iran and the constitiution also gave them seats in the parliament.  For awhile upto 1960 he tried to work with them to reform their process of education and activities, but they reacted to him in an uncompromising way, after 1965, he had a major rift with the clergy for the democratic good of the whole society and acted far more in favor of society tha his father was capable of doing at his own time....

so for these reasons, I disagree with the truthfulness of the comment, "he trusted akhoonds only & give them so much space and not confront them like his father" IMHO nonsense.

2) Creating a one party system.  From this interview in particular and his response isn't it clear that Irans end goal was not one party, but this was just a single step in a long process of Iran becoming a world leader in Democracy, like a Netherlands or a Denmark. 

Clearly he was listening to the advice of top international experts, not Iranians only, that were explaining to him that Iranians couldn't even manage one party and have it run a country.  Therefore I don't think you are in a strong position to say that having only one party, Hezbeh Rastakhiz was a mistake, do you have any evidence to support such a claim, infact all the evidence is weighted in the opposite direction, that had Iranians not supported akhoonds and supported hezbeh rastakhiz they would be in an unquestionably better and more democratically accountable society today, progressing and evolving.  For it to be a mistake, you would have to be able to show that a people with no experience with democracy as a system, had a better alternative to hezbeh rastakhiz.  What part of not even being capable or running a single party to run a country effectively would make you think a multi party system was a real option at that time?

Wanting everyone to be a member is a far stretch, he only wanted patriotic iranians, those who's efforts served others as well as themselves, to be members and excessively selfish people to stay out, he was fine with people that were neutral with the idea not participating. 

Those who opposed the idea he did say.... in his foot in the mouth style comments "which were frequent and not understood as a symptom of stress by ordinary Iranians," to leave and he'd pay for it, but in all my years I never met a single person that can prove to me a single case where this was done, so

Having his foot in his mouth as a symptom of stress is understood by psychologists and people eductated in the field of human behavior, yes that would be a short coming, so I will concede to you that he was in fact a human being, but the 2 points you brought up I do not feel are honest/fair or truthful. IMHO nonsense.

What is honest/fair & truthful is that in the case of Iran, the biggest mistake was made by the USA/UK/France/Israel in pursuing a policy of supporting extremism & criminality within Islam, to achieve a colonial agenda to Africanize Iran and thwart what the Shah had spent his life doing to realize peace, progress, democracy & human rights for all iranians.  So if anything the Shah was blatantly betrayed by friends who had legal obligations.  The rest is usually feces that people create to feel better and not see the truth. 

Everyone has a right to express their feelings, views and its especially beneficial when they are totally not based on any truth, because they give a person the option for growth from delusions which the corporate controlled media has an interest in promoting.

My view is that Iranians were deceived regarding who the Shah was and their feelings show more harmony with the corporate controlled news and media, than reality. Both Iran & the Shah were betrayed. I am aware most people can't swallow the unpalatable truth, if they could they could, deceit and manipulation wouldn't be so effective.

APFSM, He trusted Akhoonds only &

Give them so much space and not confront them like his fateher. and the second mistake he made is only one PARTY " Hezbe Rastakhiz" and wanted everyone to be a member other wise he would give them a ticket to leave IRAN.  He forgot like others to keep people on his side and listens to their demands. I hope you be honest too and look at his shortcomings as well. 

The Shah & his team lovers of Freedom & Justice for All Iranians

This is the best video IC has ever put up, likely the most sincere and candid comment by the Shah, thankyou. thankyou. thankyou. thankyou. thankyou.thankyou. mehrdadm. 

The most democractic leader in iranian history based on creating the largest growth of middle class in the world and yet some disingenuous opponents of the late shah still feel that addressing mohammad reza pahlavi as the most democratic leader iran has had is debatable. Very Strange, when one looks at his actions, his struggles and his motives. 

The Shah wanted a non masochistic or victimhood based government for Iranians.  The did not believe in the machiavelli concept of democratic government for humanity.  He believed Iranians needed to work hard on providing legitimate choices for one another.  This interview expresses his opposition to and shows his awareness of how the west gives people choices based on deadly deceit, painfully retarding manipulation or excessively repressive coercion.  He was on the correct path, climbing the tallest mountain with Iranians.  Well done to mohammad reza pahlavi.

Azarbanoo on "He just made a few BIG mistakes which caused him his throne" could you honestly list just one big mistake you believe he made for me? If iranians can't move beyond making false comments, they can not grow in either wisdom or vision for their future and these matter.

jmyt17 to be fair, it is no longer reasonable to expect people to believe in pahlavi corruption.  That deadly deceit did its harm and today most people know that the late shah left Iran and all his family members combined left Iran with less money than any European Monarchy spends in one year to function.

Unimpeachable actions like this give many many iranians of the new generation born after the shahs death and the revolution the confidence to place their faith in the pahlavi's and Iranian monarchy, instead of in ideas which are not yet in harmony with iranian culture, for example anti-secular islam in govt.  Great leaders are prepared to be losers in a sense.  They are ready to lose at a high expense to themselves any battle that gives the majority of those who they serve the possbility and ability to win the war.

Rouhesh Shad.

Shah

What is point to have him here right now? What he done for Iran?

US$60 billion Iranian money in his family account???