Reuters: Iran hanged 10 people convicted of drug trafficking on Monday, the semi-official Mehr news agency reported, part of what rights group Amnesty International called a "state killing spree". Last week, Amnesty urged Iranian authorities to commute all death sentences and remove the penalty as a possible punishment. The London-based human rights watchdog said in a statement it believed 344 people had been executed in Iran since March >>>
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Justifying IRI crimes has never been my intention
by Rea on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:54 PM PDT..... it's simply a feeling that IRI is being pointed out too often, ie. when it ought to be, but also when others are not doing any better. It's just that the others are somehow overlooked.
@Ali P, got your point, nothing new there.
NO .....
by maziar 58 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 07:06 PM PDTTo death penalty I'm in Favor .
But the guy was caught with 500 kilos of Crack cocaine!
Conspiracy theory aside.
Maziar
@maghshoosh
by Ali P. on Tue Oct 23, 2012 01:10 PM PDTAdultry is still a misdemeanor in the state I live in, punishable by a $25 fine.
In reality, it has been decades since anyone was charged for that crime, and the chances of you ever getting stuck with that charge, is almost zero.
So, you are correct Sir/Madam. As you pointed out,theoritically, you could face the death penalty for committing a crime, where no taking of a human life occured, but the chances, in reality, is slim to none.
US death penalty offenses
by maghshoosh on Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:18 PM PDT@Ali P.
Your statement, "In the U.S.A., unless you have taken a life, the death penalty is not even on the table. You won't get executed for rape, robbery, drug trafficing ...," is not quite correct. There are state and federal death penalty non-murder offenses, which include child rape, treason/espionage & drug trafficking. However, the last US executions for crimes other than homicide were, apparently, in the early 1960s, as listed in the chart down this page.
Tragically R_G's description is almost entirely true
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Tue Oct 23, 2012 07:23 AM PDTWe know R-G's words to be true due to the infighting between different factions / familes in the IRI that are fighting each other for greater power. The fighting includes calling in favors to catch multi tonne drug hauls done for ayatollah x or y and they go free of course, this is so called justice in the IRI.
Ali. P your article started out okay and ended okay, but the middle was off, the notion trials in the usa are fair is not close to the truth. How much money you have affects whether you are found guilty or not, it is widely known in Iran if you are an Ayatollah etc you get the same style treatment as the rich in usa. Also those brought before the court are not fairly selected, financial/racial bias is massive. The issue is if we are looking to enact democracy for Iran, the last country on earth we would want to emulate is the USA. Its democratic system is literally good for Akhoonds who they brought to power and keep in power. The EU Republics have a better democratic record than the USA, but the EU monarchies have the best democratic record and justice system, do we want to solve our problems or are we aching to not reflect on reality and make personal points that will create worse problems. You could misrepresent me and say since I openly favor monarchies so I would make the points i make, however take the time to live in various countries and look to independent studies and then come back to the same issue as ask what system is the best way to solve our problems with each other and our lack of confidence in one another.
I am against capital punishment no matter what.
by Soosan Khanoom on Tue Oct 23, 2012 07:12 AM PDTI do not even trust IRI's court system in jailing people yet alone to justify their killings. We are supporting political prisoner's cause, just because it is even more outrages, but any ordinary Iranian citizen is in similar situation regardless of the accusations.
No amount of bombing campaign can bring IRI down as much as the injustices that they are doing to their own nation can. IRI IS SELF DESTRUCTIVE. It is just the matter of time. The law of nature soon or later is going to apply to this regime.
Indeed, what goes up must come down.
Some Facts on these executions:
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Tue Oct 23, 2012 06:28 AM PDT1) The entitre narcotics business, from traffic into and out of country to final distribution is controlled by the Mafia of the so called "Revolutionary Guards", who are only answerable to Ali Khamenei. All the proceded of the business being deposited into the mostly foreign bank accounts of Khamenei, his extended family and Revolutionary gurds leaders.
2) Those executed are always a few political prisoners, along with very minor drug dealers who potentialy fell out of favour with their Revolutionary guards handlers.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Death Penalty in the U.S. and in Iran
by Ali P. on Tue Oct 23, 2012 05:17 AM PDTIn the U.S.A., unless you have taken a life, the death penalty is not even on the table. You won't get executed for rape, robbery, drug trafficing, political dissent, having gay sex, or changing your religion, or, blasphemy.
Additionally:
You get a fair trial.
You get an attorney.
Rules of evidence usually are in your favor.
You are put on trial in open court (meaning the public can attend the proceedings).
A jury of your peers has to unanimously find you guilty, beyond reasonable doubt ( if one of 12, has some doubt, you end up with a hung jury).
Once you are found guilty, the JURY of your peers, would have to recommand death penalty to be imposed by the judge.
Then there is automatic appeals, the governor could order the stay of execution,...etc.
You sit on the death row for years.
The worst of the worst murderers are usually the ones, end up getting actually executed.
Other than that, yes, death penalty in Iran and the U.S., is the same.
Ali P.
Where is ??
by fullback on Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:18 AM PDTWhere is the world outrage over all these Executions, NIAC ??? have they made any comments over the years about these executions. Some of these people are ordinary Iranians who are piled in with the criminal element and put to death at the behest of the Aghazadeha, over buisness conflicts. Shame Shame
Amn. Int. consistent on the death penalty
by maghshoosh on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:03 PM PDT@Rea,
What makes you suggest that Amn. Int. has not been consistent in its criticism of the death penalty across the globe, in particular in the US?:
//www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-pe...
Hate reading about people being hanged
by Rea on Mon Oct 22, 2012 07:02 PM PDTHowever. Amnesty International would be more convincing if they also called upon the US government to do away with death penalty.
Ayatollahs business is under threat and competition needs to get
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Mon Oct 22, 2012 06:44 PM PDTerased from the pages of history.
Sick that the state executes drug dealers and lets mollahs and Ayatollahs run free.
..........
by maziar 58 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 06:39 PM PDTIranian sand niggers.
Maziar
A lesson for others
by divaneh on Mon Oct 22, 2012 06:37 PM PDTThat should teach a lesson to anyone else who wants to interfere in the revolutionary guards business.