ناصرالدین شاه و ۸۴ زن اش'، فیلمی خوش ساخت و جذاب با یک تکنیک ساده و روایی است. این فیلم در جشنواره های فیلم متعددی پذیرفته شده و به نمایش در آمده است.این فیلم در جشنواره فیلم زنان در هراره ، جشنواره 'در تبعید' گوتنبرگ و جشنواره بین المللی نیویورک پذیرفته شده و جایزه بهترین فیلم خارجی و بهترین مستند داستانی را در جشنواره فیلمهای زیرزمینی لوس آنجلس و نیز بهترین فیلم مستند و مستند داستانی را به ترتیب در جشنواره فیلم ونکور کانادا و جشنواره بین المللی فیلم نیویورک، از آن خود کرده است.بئاته پترسون نویسنده و کارگردان و تهیه کننده این فیلم متولد نروژ و دانش آموخته آکادمی هنر نروژ در سال ۲۰۰۱ است.
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They Called Mr. Rooster Zan-Zalil Too!
by Faramarz on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:33 AM PDTAll those mother hens that were sitting on the eggs, waiting for them to hatch and gossiping, called Mr. Rooster Zan - Zalil!
Call the dude whatever you want, but remember that he is the one who decides which one of the hens are going to get lucky tonight!
What is the connection
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:17 AM PDTMaryamjoon
Me has a question.
How do you relate zan zalili with Bahai/zionism huge universal conspiracy. I am sure there is a connection there.
Would you please do a blog on this?:))
Did you say Zan zalil
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:15 AM PDTOh lord . we are asking you tonight to pleaseput some sense into these misguided ladies on IC, SOME OF THEM, and be their sheperd on to the right path and please make them understand the realities of life even better than they think they do now.
SK
Calling a male who has 84 wives a zan zalil would be like calling Andre agasi an always loser in tennis.
Tackle that one madam.
Thank you lord in advance:)
Soosan khanoom ... baba ma ro koshti az khandeh
by MaryamJoon on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:10 AM PDTMan hichi nemigam
Del dard gereftam az khandeh
...
by Truthseeker9 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:03 AM PDTOur observations aside, you have to accept N. Shah himself was fascinated by human curiosities: he collected midgets, etc ...
Fesenjoon I do not know about that but giving the fact
by Soosan Khanoom on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:45 AM PDTThat most married men, muslim or not, are 'Zan Zaleel' imagine the degree of 'Zan Zaleeli of the Shah having to obey 84 of them.
lol
But my grandma was cute. :)
by Soosan Khanoom on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:37 AM PDTOk Souri jan, may be some of Shah's women were not photogenic or as you said the quality was too bad that they looked hairy ..
Thank God for today's high quality photos as well as the laser hair removal machine... I have heard ' band andazee' hurts badly ... So two thumbs up for today's technology ... Hooray!!
More on his mother: Mahd-e Olya
by All-Iranians on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:27 AM PDT//iranian.com/main/blog/all-iranians-128
Soosan Khanom jon
by Souri on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:16 AM PDTIf you compare the old pictures of your grand-ma, with her today's photos, you will see a huge difference. You know well that the old photographies were very poor and it made everybody so ugly and even hairy.
Old is old, anyway :)
Quranic instruction to beat women
by Fesenjoon2 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:13 AM PDTIt is clear in the Quran that you can beat your wife, if she dont listen to you:
//quran.com/4/34
Beating 84 wives of course will give you a nice workout, AND make you AZIZ in the eyes of ALLAH.
Red wine jan ,
by Soosan Khanoom on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 AM PDTI didn't mean to be rude. I am honest and straight forward. That's all...
Now I know what you mean by super mazhabee and mullah followers who wouldnt let a girl touches her face till she gets married ... But those women were married already ... what was then their excuse?
Dont you think Shah liked hairy women?
:)
It is good to be a muslim cleric!!!!!!
by Fesenjoon2 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:09 AM PDT//3.bp.blogspot.com/-su1oeTnZy2A/UFb5dEeqz3I/AAAAAAAAC7s/_L-Q4utlYDA/s1600/islam+-+iran+-+moslem+-+0+(8)akhond+sigheh+123.jpg
Souri jan
by Soosan Khanoom on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:02 AM PDThow about ' band ' was it not available at the time? I realy don't know the history of ' band e sorat'. but it is good to find out!!
Laser is pretty recent. Still not aviable to many parts of the world...
But , seriously, I am not making fun of them. I think those features make any woman ugly. That is my personal taste.. I think feminity should be cherished.
Draw some mustash and thick unibrow on Sarah shahi .. Let me know then ? lol
But thanks for your kind words and thoughtful comments.
یَا أَیُّهَا الَّذِینَ آمَنُواْ
FaramarzWed Sep 19, 2012 09:55 AM PDT
یَا أَیُّهَا الَّذِینَ آمَنُواْ
لخت شو بیا زیر پتو
یَا أَیُّهَا الَّذِینَ سکسیون المصرف زیاد فی سکس الاحتیاج فی بدنی القوی
...
by Red Wine on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:53 AM PDTسوسن خانم جان ... دل شکستن؛آن هم درین اوضاع و احوال شایسته هیچ ایرانی نباشد.انتظار نداشتم که شما بدین نحو برخورد کنید،اینان که بی حرمتی میکنند،خانواده ندارند،این دلگیری از طرفِ شما بر ما هیچ روا نبود.
بنده در تعجبم ! آیا شما خبر ندارید که دران زمان فقها (همان شیوخ پست فطرت!) هر گونه دست بردن در صورت را در زنان جایز نمیدانستند ؟ بسیاری از زنانِ خانواده من تا اوایلِ حکومتِ حضرتِ سلطان احمد شاه قاجار بدین گونه رفتار میکردند... آخر آدم نباید اندکی تامل کرده و از خود بپرسد که آیا این حرکت طبیعی بوده یا خیر ؟
به هر حال ما هنوز منتظریم که شما و یا هر کس دگر که سخنی بیش از حقِ خود دارد؛درینجا عکسی از زنانِ خاندانِ خود بگذارد تا ببینیم آیا زنانِ خانواده شما بند میانداختند ؟ به آرایشگاه مادام مکش مرگِ ما میرفتند و همسران سلطان هیچ ؟!
ایرانی به داشتنِ مرام معروف است... آدمی که مرام نداشته باشد،بی احترام است،از ما نیست و حکمش لعنِ تمامِ رفتگان است.
عزت زیاد.
A hairy khers or a shaved khers is still a khers
by MaryamJoon on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:43 AM PDT"by Souri on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:32 AM PDT - Also the industry of waxing and laser was not as wellknown as today"
زندانی در ظلمت و دوزخ خود ساخته!
DemoWed Sep 19, 2012 09:41 AM PDT
اینهم آیه ای ساده و روشن از قرآن در مورد مملکت ما و در مورد در ظلمت مانده زندانیانی همچون شما را که دریوزگی شاهان وحکام فاسدی چون ناصرالدین قاجار را برای قرون متمادی کرده و هنوز هم میکنند:
خداوند سرور مؤمنان است و آنان را از تاريكيها به سوى روشنايى رهنمود میسازد، و شیطان صفتان سرورشان طاغوت (نفس و جهل خود، شاه، ولی فقیه، و غیره) است كه ايشان را از روشنايى به سوى تاريكيها و ظلمات سوق میدهد، اينان دوزخیانند و در آن جاودانه می مانند. (٢:٢٥٧)
تاریکی و ظلمت بیرون گور و درون گور برای یک زندانی درگور خود ساخته چه فرقی دارد که عبور از این دنیا به آن دنیا برای چنین کس صفت گور بگوری است که در زبان فارسی داریم. پس همانا گور بگور بمانید.
Soossan khanom
by Souri on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:32 AM PDTSoosan khanoom
thanks for the great movie, I liked it, although I am not sure how accurate it is, but as a documentary overall it was interesting.
However I didn't like your comment about the Qajar's women. I know well your sense of humor dear and I know you didn't mean anything bad.
But I can assure you, that not only myself (being from Qajar's family) but many other Persian ladies that I know from Qajars, are not ugly. We are normal.
Some of us, are also the most beautiful ladies like Sara Shahi and many others:
//www.imdb.com/name/nm1083404/
You are a very smart girl and I wished to hear more sublte statements from you, to criticize the Qajar dynasty, than the ones about their women's apperance.
If you look at the pictures of the European ladies in 0f 18 and 19 centureis, you won't find them so beautiful, either.
You must be aware that at era, fatter women were more appreciated. Also the industry of waxing and laser was not as wellknown as today.
Any how, I just wanted to mention that making fun of the people's apearance is not nice, nor well taken.
Red wine, azizam.
by Soosan Khanoom on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:26 AM PDTBeing Shomalee you can find no signs of mustash or unibrow on my female rafteghan.
Oh come on for God sakes ... Those two facial features make any woman ugly.. There are some signs of feminity and some signs of masculinity. Hadn't the Ghajaree women heard of ' band e sorat' ? Let's face it Shah liked hairy women!
But to be fair to them I did mention the majority were ugly not all... There may have been some exceptions to the rules and by rules I mean Ghajar's unibrow and mustash requirement with masculinity for the females , both the wives and the mistress aka sighe ...l
No wonder they turned to
by Truthseeker9 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:03 AM PDTNo wonder they turned to contemplation of the beardless.
دمو خان بی زحمت آن آیه و سوره مربوطه به خاندان قاجار در قرآن را
ZendanianWed Sep 19, 2012 08:41 AM PDT
Soosan Khanoom Dear
by Demo on Wed Sep 19, 2012 09:45 AM PDTFor Nasserdeen who was drinking a lot of 'Red Wine' among other liquors to get drunk, men & women were making no difference! And imagine how ugly his mom had been as she had to screen them, being sure none wewe better looking than herself as jealous as she was, to become his son's husbands & wives!
...
by Red Wine on Wed Sep 19, 2012 08:20 AM PDTسوسن خانم جان،حال که زیبائی و اِسْتِتیکِ آن رفتگان را به زیرِ سئوال میبرید؛مایل هستیم عکسی نیز از رفتگان شما (نَسوان) درینجا ببینیم تا نظری بر ایشان انداخته و جمعی را بدین نحو با زیبائی اینان خوش به حالات کنید.
منتظرِ عکسِ رفتگانِ شما هستیم ... و دیگر حضراتِ پُر ادّعا (از همانی که شَرم ندارند و بی احترامند نسبت به مردگان) نیز به همچنین .
ببینیم کی به زیرِ حَرفَش میزند و ادّعا صّد مَنْ یک غاز میکند.
I think some were men with scarves.
by Soosan Khanoom on Wed Sep 19, 2012 07:57 AM PDTOne thing for sure , Ghebleyeh Alam, Naserudin Shah, had certainly no taste when it came to women. The majority were ugly. Especially his ' sogooli'' ... Yuck!!!
It is good to be the king!!!!!!
by Bavafa on Wed Sep 19, 2012 07:52 AM PDT'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad