Ying Yang
by
Morgan Chavoshi 21-Feb-2008
Morgan Chavoshi was born in Tehran/Iran in 1970. Her Father was a Colonel in the Shah’s regime and her Mother a homemaker. The youngest of three girls she remembers fondly when she first decided to become a painter at the age of four. By the time she was seven she was drawing portraits. At the age of twelve her father placed her in a private class with the renowned Painter Sanjari, son of the famous Composer Sanjari, for a more formal training. Morgan experienced the revolution and the war in Iran and was finally able to move to the US with her family in 1984
>>> www.morganchavoshi.com
Moving pictures
by Fan (not verified) on Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:52 PM PSTI personally think her artwork displays beautifully the pain and anguish she has experienced in her life. It is art in its purest form and should not be judged against anything else except for the symbolism that the paintings represent of her inner feelings and spirituality.
No more comments!!
by Anonymous___ (not verified) on Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:47 AM PSTI think the comment section is close until futher ntice!! This is a first on Iranian.com
It's like Iranian.NoComment!
Anyhow, I'd like to know how two women end up in that position specially when pregnant?!!!
I can never figure out what's in the head of artists! It's a chaos going on in there. Most of them are on drugs! My commenst are towrd art in general no necessarily aimed at our artist here...
Art thrives on subjectivity as as long as there are bunch of idiots out there there is always an eye that "Beholds the beauty"!!
To :Anonymous6
by Honest Hassan on Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:54 AM PST"Freedom of speech/expression is an absolute right in this society".
Is it?
Don't want to preach, but...
We all hate cersorship as much as you do, but the above statement is false. A few examples of unprotected speech would be pornography, defamation, and statements enciting violence or criminal behavior. And even those, are the ones the state has the power to regulate. A private entity, such as this forum, can regulate/eliminate/censor just about anything it wants, if the editor finds the material to his disliking, or not fit for publication. A "free" society, is really not as "free" as it sounds.
Is it nice? Maybe not, but that's the way it is.
Morgan's art is some of the
by Ron (not verified) on Sat Feb 23, 2008 06:56 AM PSTMorgan's art is some of the most emotional and original paintings I have ever viewed. To me, it shows an inner tormoil and acceptence, but with deep, strong beliefs. Keep up the amazing work because the world needs to see your strength and beauty.
Although I am for freedom of
by Penny (not verified) on Sat Feb 23, 2008 06:46 AM PSTAlthough I am for freedom of speech, upon reading the artist's biography, I am glad that the comments of the so-called Anonymous6 were removed. I have not read those comments, but can only tell what they are about, judging from the responses. Why should we allow an insensitive 'bi-honar' to use this site to hurt an already suffering artist with his/her negativity? In fact, I wish people in general, would use this site more sensibly. Reading some of the comments to some of the other posts (e.g. those to the picture depicting the other aspect of 'hejab' that is the result of the harsh winter in Canada, which incidentally was interesting) I sometimes feel ashamed of my Iranian nationality. What is wrong with us as a nation? Why are we so torn apart? And why are we so jealous of the innovations expressed by our artists that instead of fostering such creativity-- even if they should express a vision other than our own-- we trash others. Such moves only lead to our own denigration. I wish, instead of trash-talking our compatriot artists, we would show some originality, some creativity in our arguments.
To Anonymous6
by Trashed Before (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:45 PM PSTSo you don't like to explain and you don't like explanation because it is copy and pasted. All you see is trash!!! If visual art does not appeal to you, then it is TRASH. This is the exact attitude that Mullahs have. They don't like music UNLESS it is "marching music". They don't like dancing, singing, acting, and they don't like painting and sculpture. Anywhere else in the world Googoosh would have been a national treasure, but in Iran Mullahs thought of her as trash!
Everything you said is about the artist. The Painting didn't create itself, the artist did. And, I gave you my take on the painting, maybe the artist has something else in mind. I see Yin Yang, balance, mizoon, harmony. YOU see trash. I wonder why?
Trashed Before
by Anonymous6 (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 08:42 PM PSTThe definition of 'Ying Yan' was well understood. No need was necessary for you to copy and past it here. Hopefully you also have looked at the circular image of 'Ying Yang'. One could be wondered for similarity of 'Ying Yang' image and two women cross over each other in the portrait number one as you are describing.
Nothing against Ms. Chavoshi herself and I am sorry for what she has gone through, but her painting of two women while one holding the other upside down is nothing even a miniscule close to the Chinese ‘Ying Yang’. So visually it is what it is, unless you put your description next to it!
To Anonymous6
by Trashed Before (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 07:22 PM PST"Yin Yang represents the ancient Chinese understanding of how things work. The outer circle represents "everything", while the black and white shapes within the circle represent the interaction of two energies, called "yin" (black) and "yang" (white), which cause everything to happen. They are not completely black or white, just as things in life are not completely black or white, and they cannot exist without each other.
While "yin" would be dark, passive, downward, cold, contracting, and weak, "yang" would be bright, active, upward, hot, expanding, and strong. The shape of the yin and yang sections of the symbol, actually gives you a sense of the continual movement of these two energies, yin to yang and yang to yin, causing everything to happen: just as things expand and contract, and temperature changes from hot to cold."
The painting has nothing to do with sexual position "69". As if you have not noticed, the women in this painting are in up-right position and both of them are pregnant, making any sexual activity practically impossible, whether they are straight or lesbian. This painting in my opinion is more than anything else is about the artist herself, with the tragedy related to her daughter's birth and how the artist is in search of balance in her life in regard to her tragic child delivery.
Position "69" of sexual interaction
by Anonymous6 (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 02:18 PM PSTFor some guys when it comes to sexual imagination everything is ok!
For majority of straight women, for example portrait number one, which shows the position "69" of sexual interaction between two lesbian women in main page of Iranin.com, for sure is a trashy painting.
Now you guys figure out the number two painting.............
Not everybody know what is "69"!
by Anonymous6 (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 01:49 PM PSTNot everybody know what is '69'!
It's "69" not ying and yang!
by Anonymous__ (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 01:36 PM PSTA female breast always sells as art, be it painting, photograph, poetry, sculpture....
People just like that...ask the
guys who in a Canadian campus went for the kiss...
oh art...anything goes!!!!
Love the paintings
by Yek Irani on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:31 PM PSTI wish she would paint me. my image on left is a perfect subject
To Anonymous6
by Trashed Before (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:04 PM PSTSo you don't want to EXPLAIN why these paintings are trashy?
Practicing freedom of trashing!
by Anonymous6 (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:44 AM PSTPlease apply this beautiful speech of yours to all other people, articles, paintings, and religions when they are/have been trashed with fitly, nasty language, and maneuvering; those are the ones that should be called practicing freedom of trashing.
A good example is putting ‘Mecca: Toop ghel gheli’ in the right side of this page.
To Anonymous6
by Trashed Before (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:03 AM PSTIt is wrong to say her art work is trashy without further explanation. She has trained and practices for years to get to the point where she is now, good or bad, not to mention the personal anguish in her life. If you see her painting as trashy at least have some decency to elaborate on your point of view, maybe a comment two hundred words long. That would take half an hour to an hour of your time to humiliate her art work that SHE has created over years, good or bad.
You are not practicing freedom of speech; you are practicing freedom of trashing.
Anonymous6 you are an idiot. Stop this non-sense.
by Javadagha (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:01 AM PSTYou idiot, stop your silly posts. This is a Private site, leave it alone.
I suggest JJ to give us your IP to show you our tolerance.
Censorship and Freedom of Speech
by Anonymous6 (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 07:25 AM PSTJJ and other admin,
Freedom of speech/expression is an absolute right in this society.
In your site you pretend to be an advocate of it by saying nothing is scared (what a joke!). Practically you are much worse than Mullahs. They don’t know anything better, you know and with your censorship with no real reason, downgrading yourself to the same level as mullahs!
This is my opinion that 'Ying Yang Paintings' in main page of Iranian.com is a trashy painting, and you don’t have any tolerance to hear it.
Go head again and delete my comment again as you did for past 12 hours.
Now is not the painting anymore it is your action and censorship that portrait you to the same low level as Mullahs
thanks
by shab (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 07:12 AM PSTI love no5.
exellent job ! a bit odd though :-)
deep reflection
by Mahasti (not verified) on Fri Feb 22, 2008 06:03 AM PSTChavoshi's men and women tell a tortured story. Their skin is not bare for sake of beauty or to "turn on" the viewers. "Ying Yang" (first image) is incredibly tender and at the same time unsettling. The composition and colors of the agonized pregnant woman in "Faith Lost" (third image) make it incredibly powerful. The series seems to be a deep reflection on love, birth and death. Very moving.
Why are you censoring Anonymous6 ????
by Disappointed Artist (not verified) on Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:19 PM PSTExcuse me, JJ: someone is deleting the posts by Anonymous6. I have absolutely no idea who Anonymous6 is, but I am disturbed by what is happening on this site.
Why can't someone say that these paintings are trashy? I do not agree with this statement, I love these painings. But I also want to defend the right of my compatriots to express their differing opinions.
To JJ and other moderators
by Disappointed Artist (not verified) on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:49 PM PSTThese are interesting paintings, that's my opinion. However, other people such as "Anonymous6" have the right to express their opinions as well. I recall that this morning, he/she had left a message calling these paintings "trashy". My question to you is: Why did you delete that comment? "Trashy" was a commewnt about the artwork, not about the artist. It was appropriate. You have no right to publically say that "Nothing is Sacred", yet censor people and delete their comments. This is an unaceptable behavior.
Also, I'd like to know who other censors / monitoras are. Please publichs their names.
Disappointed artist
Just beautiful. I love our new brave painters
by :-) - (not verified) on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:42 PM PSTThey are real.
consistant theme
by tin cans (not verified) on Thu Feb 21, 2008 07:27 PM PSTA heartbreaking story. Your paintings' theme in a way reminds me of Frida Kahlo's pain, a different kind of pain, but similarly a very personal story. It also takes courage to express one's inner self like that. I also liked the consistancy of the overall theme. Good luck to you.
Excellent
by Art Critic at Large (not verified) on Thu Feb 21, 2008 07:09 PM PSTvery erotic, beautiful lines and beyond an average person's comprehension, that is why the two dudes below got agitated :) LOOOL
Nice style too.....
Please continue sharing your art with us poor and angry souls....
What is it about nude paintings these days?
by Nader on Thu Feb 21, 2008 06:58 PM PSTWith all due respect to the artist, the paintings have nothing new to offer.
It's been done to death!
By the way, why choose a name like "Morgan" instead of sticking with the given name?
MORGAN!?!?