Ali_UK

Iran[F___ IR] as a nation

Iran[F___ IR] as a nation is entitled to all the arsenal to protect herself, including but not limited to atomic arsenal,  as any other nation. Particularly in the light of DAILY existential  threat from the worst blood thirsty countries in the history of human being, aka, Israel and USA

Any problem?

Yes. Your twisted mind captain.

Do you realize what atomic bomb actually does? Where your human values sit in with glamouring such murderous weapons? I suppose you are old enough to remember massive movement of protest against nuclear bomb in western countries before the cold war. They were not nationalists. They were nonetheless patriotic people looking at this insanity for what it was. Now that the western world is trying to end this insanity, you are hiding behind an archaic sense of nationalism to justify it.

And to justify it, of course, there need to be an external 'enemy' invented. How can you possibly define yourself without defining your enemy?!

I don't defend Israel nuclear capability. It was developed during cold war and it proved to be pretty much useless. But Israel won't give it up as long as there is a danger of nuclear proliferation. A point I might add, Israel at least, HAD enemies. She didn't need to 'invent' them. Captain should at least agree on this one!

But your enemy is the modernity. Your enemy is humanity. Your enemy is not the one who kills patriotic Kurds and builds up nuclear capability. Your enemy is those who oppose it. Even Ahmadinejad recognizes that atomic bomb is not a military deterrent. But it is a political and financial deterrent for any movement fighting IRI power. Your sense of 'nationalism' is childish, if not completely reactionary.

Now for these kids facinated with their toys, I have another existential question. Should Iran as a nation have the tallest skyscraper in the world? It has nothing to do with IRI of-course, purely in a 'nationalistic' point of view?!

... And these childish and reactionary thoughts claim secular politics!

El Capitan - 2

This is the day and age when most civilized countries believe that the nuclear age is coming - or should come - to an end.  I do not share the paranoia that Iran needs the nuke to defend itself...from whom, Israel? Who's been threatening whom here? Perhaps I am going crazy in my midlife years, but isn't it Ahmadinejad who repeatedly threatened Israel to wipe it off the face of the earth? Do some of us here have selective memeory in support of the anti nationalist thugs in power in Iran?

That said, I believe we (Iranians) should concentrate our efforts in diversifying our industries much like the Saudis are doing to lessen our dependence of oil revenues so that when the oil does run out, we will not become another Afghanistan. If we are hell bent on aquiring nukes, we will miss out on that (which is more than likely the case today anyway).

I am a technical professional and know a thing or two about nuclear technology. There is a serious problem with storing nuclear waste which (talking about power generation) is true for all nations/users. Unless we - as human beings - find a suitable and acceptable means to safely operate nuclear plants and store their wastes, nuclear power remains a ticking bomb for all humanity - nevermind nukes as weapons.

IMHO

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Mr. Cost of Progress

This statement of you caught my eye and allow me to ask a question.

You noted [No Nukes while thugs are in power.]

Is it safe to assume that fundamentally you support Nuclear Iran, given the IR thugs are not in power? 

-YT 

Kharmagas Jan

Mokhlesim salar..................... 

-YT 

good one Sag jAn!

The video was good. .... ya, ya, ... I know we disagree on the nuke issue Sag jAn. fyi, if there wasn't for the nuke issue I would oppose IRI with more zeal than you!

Mr. Shepesh

Mr. Shepesh 

You noted[You have clearly bought into the IRI propoganda machine.]

Geez I did not realized US and European news media, who are constantly beating the war drums against Iran were propaganda machines of IR. Not to mention AIPAC war mongers, and people like John Bolton, who are blatantly suggesting the NUKING of Iran. Thanks for enlightening me.

But I have a suggestion, You guys first need to show the world all the WMD you people found in Iraq, then we will talk about WMD's in Iran How is that sir?

Mr. Cost Of Progress.

I see you are missing Mr. Ostaad for profound effect he might have left in you, since you are equating my humble comment with his. 

-YT 

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Magas

It's funny how we even have factions here on this site.

We can't even discuss various issues online in a constructive manner even though we know that the future of our country depends on how we deal with dividing issues that gave rise to the monsters in power now. I am yet to see any concrete evidence on this site that your bunch (and you know who that is) truly opposes the murderer regime and their anti nationalist policies and agenda. If you do not agree with someone's stance, do not call them vatan forush because two can play that game. It is easy to smear someone name 'cause their views are different than yours.

Ostaad is an arrogant and condescending guy. I am sure he's back with a different username as we shall soon be able to tell by writing style, and more importanly, ideology.

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Speaking of Ostaad (to COP)

Jayeh Ostaad kheily khAli, I totally understand that one should not spend too much time here, but I hope he does not remain completely silent. He was a thorn in the back of the vatanforosh.

damet garm Ayhab!

... hey Ayhab, I thought since you are very green, you would be shaky on that issue. I am glad I was wrong!

I wish Iran total success

Despite my deep disagreements with IRI, I believe Iran should get the nukes. IF (a big if) IRI is planning for that (or a wrench away from nukes policy) I wish it total success.

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Common sense??

Watching the Teletubbies makes more sense than what you are trying to say.

Listen to yourself....

You say NO to nuclear Iran. You say NO to Iran becoming military strong. You emit the same kind of gas out of your mouth that fox news emits from its rear, like Iran wants to attack Israel and its neighbors. You have defended a terrorist seperatist Komoleh fighter ( Ehsan Fatahian ) on the other thread despite me providing solid proof with video that this guy was a terrorist. come on, give it up...

What exactly do you believe in anyway?  How to become a traitor? How to keep Iran weak?

It has nothing to do with

It has nothing to do with loyalty but common sense. It is up to you to stand behind the mullahs and basij thugs, and by your irrational accusations and behaviour I can see you for what you are.  

"Or perhaps you will pick up arms against me and side with the enemy like the MKO ? Or perhaps you will pick up arms against me and side with the enemy like the MKO ? ...... Traitors talk the same talk as you. ... Will you side with an international coalition who wants to topple the mullahs? Will you fire upon a Sepahi or basiji who is defending his country? Will you drop " smart bombs" over Tehran sensitive locations? Will you start executing the mullahs once you are in power?  .... "

What on earth are you talking about? Obviously you write the speeches for Ahmadinejad.

Or maybe you will do nothing but talk shyt in the forums? who knows....

No I will leave that up to your type who cannot discuss anything without resorting to insulting your opponent. I see you have been in IC for 2.5 weeks, welcome to the website.

Nationalism means defending our borders at all cost.

Those who wish Iran to be weak and dependent on foreign technology and handouts are bone heads who can't live a day without fox news or CNN.

Here is a clear example of how fear tactics of news outlet has influenced one of our beloved countrymen. Where exactly do their " LOYALTY " lies?

I am of the type who will side with the devil to save my country against a foreign invasion or attacks of any kind. Yes, I will stand behind the mullahs " willingly" when that day comes. Are you the same? Or perhaps you will pick up arms against me and side with the enemy like the MKO ? Or maybe you will do nothing but talk shyt in the forums? who knows....

Traitors talk the same talk as you. They all start the same way until they no longer know what they are fighting for. Where do you draw the line? Will you side with an international coalition who wants to topple the mullahs? Will you fire upon a Sepahi or basiji who is defending his country? Will you drop " smart bombs" over Tehran sensitive locations? Will you start executing the mullahs once you are in power?

An answer is not required. I know your type....

No to Islamofascists getting WMD

Why does'nt Iran seek Canadian nuclear reactor technology to provide electrical power to its people. The Canadian reactor is of a type which does not breed plutonium. If Iran is truly sincere in using its resources for peaceful purposes it would seriously consider buying into this technology instead of investing in a direction which clearly points toward a future of nuclear armament.

Mr Ayhab

You do talk nonsense. "DAILY existential  threat from the worst blood thirsty countries in the history of human being, aka, Israel and USA"

You have clearly bought into the IRI propoganda machine. The facts are that it is IRI that is threatening Israel's right to exist, and aiding terrorists in the region. A government that is shedding the blood of its own people will not hesitate to intimidate and blackmail its neighbours.  And this is an Iranian talking, not Israeli or American. Even we can see WMD in the hands of Khamenei is a disaster for Iranian people and leaves them vulnerable.

El Capitan

Are you pulling double duty now that this dude Ostaad ghahr karde?

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huh?

Hypocrisy galore............ 

Iran[F___ IR] as a nation is entitled to all the arsenal to protect herself, including but not limited to atomic arsenal,  as any other nation. Particularly in the light of DAILY existential  threat from the worst blood thirsty countries in the history of human being, aka, Israel and USA

Any problem?

-YT 

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NO!

No Nukes while thugs are in power.

Tell me what you know about nuclear technolgy and how would you propose for a country like Iran to dispose of its waste?

By the way, the mullahs are just stalling. They will not be sending any material anywhere for processing - Mark my word.

Cheers mate....

Iran First - Always

here we go again

You are concentrating too much on motives again.Stop eating chillies.it is making you very twisted.Get over my motives.

It is only my opinion.And I was seeking others.

I believe it will be a missed opportunity for Iran , now that she has come so far.Yeh , it is a shame that IRI is in power , but that will change.

We should also negotiate a better deal.I do not think Iran should just hand over all her nuclear material to the French.

They are not to be trusted.Russians should not be trusted neither.

Interests of Iran MUST come first ,

Here we go again

You do realize that by opening this door, you also open the door to the scrutiny of your motives and allegiances, right?

As I said in the other blog that got wiped out, the last thing that these bastard mullahs and their blood thirsty cult should be afforded is a nuke.

You claim you are against this tyrranical anti nationalist regime - You cannot be against this regime and pro nuke at the same time. So, something smells and it ain't the chilly I had for lunch!

Your argument that this is not related to who's in power does not hold water either, not even a drop.

Iran First - Always