I am responding to this article that compared the IRI to the Nazis. Simply put, the IRI, and Iran in general, cannot be compared to Nazi Germany. There are many differences, some of which are cultural and others are unique to akhoonds and the IRI. Here are the reasons. I will first point out the cultural ones:
-Germans are industrious people who are focused on innovation and invention. They build high quality precision machines, aircraft and tools that have no rival in the world. Iranians, on the other hand, like poetry and love stories. Our most treasured assets are Shahnameh and Divan-e-Hafez. With a very few exceptions, our kings and rulers, for at least the past ten centuries, have preferred to leave the whole “industry”,“innovation” and “invention” thing to foreigners and focus on becoming “hali-be-hali”while listening to a poem by the royal court’s resident poet.
-Germans are timely and efficient people. They show up for work on time, do the job right when they are there, and do not leave until the job is done. Iranians, on the other hand, treasure their afternoon naps, and their tea time while they are at work. They show up for work in the morning for a few hours, drink tea, BS with coworkers, and at 12:00 pm, they are in their cars and on their way home for lunch and their midday siesta. By the time they return to work (if they return to work), it’s time to come back home again. So, they waste a couple of hours lamenting about their rudely interrupted naps and work and then it’s back to the house, and more ghormeh sabzi.
-Germans are sticklers about rules and regulations. We, Iranians, on the other hand, consider laws to be “suggestions”. Hell, we can’t even learn to throw our trash in a trash bin on the street when there is trash can every 100 feet.
Now, some akhoond related reasons why Iran is not like Nazi German:
-Nazis valued nationalism above all else. They wanted to expand Deutschland. They valued German identity, German nationalism and German culture. Akhoonds, on the other hand, are enemies of Iranian nationalism and non-Islam related Iranian culture. Moreover, they cannot care less about what happens to Iran as a country so long as their ideology is advanced. As Ayatooleh Hendizadeh himself once said: “let Iran burn”. They even want to erase all mention of Iran’s past kings from Iranian schoolbooks.
-Nazis valued art and music, so much so that they stole every piece of valuable art that they could get their hands on from their conquered nations and brought them to Germany. Akhoonds, on the other hand, love rozeh khooni, too sar zani and ghoran khooni.
-In twelve years, Nazis elevated Germany from a conquered, half slaved nation to a powerhouse of technology, self sufficiency and technology. Theakhoonds, on the other hand, have managed, in the span of thirty years, to transform Iran from a progressive, forward moving nation to one that has torely on second hand North Korean technology for its defense, and cannot get a plane up in the air without it crashing and killing civilian passengers. The only thing that the IRI has managed to do is to put veils on women and reduce them to second classcitizens.
-Nazis were not satisfied with what they had. They always thought and planned about being bigger and better. Akhoonds, on the other hand, have changed the Iranian culture to one being satisfied (“ghaaneh”) with what you have, and are prolific supporters of culture of “geda-paravri.”
-Nazis made certain that ALL German citizens had a proper job and proper place to live. The akhoonds, on the other hand, have forced Iranians into such poverty that people are forced to sell their daughters in Dubai to buy food.
-Nazis hated religion in all its forms. The akhoonds, on the other hand…well, there is not much that I need to say there.
Last, but certainly not the least:
-Nazis loved cleanliness and proper representation. They were meticulous about their uniforms and abhorred sloppiness. Akhoonds, on the other hand, love the smell of “khala” and dirt. That’s why, as Sadegh Hedayat said once, whenever you go to a mosque, the “vozoo” fountains are next to the bathrooms, so the first thing you smell is the wonderful bathroom aroma. Also,have you seen their representatives in other nations? They look like the “sepoors “that pick up your trash every day. And what about their gun toting Basijis? They look (and act) like they just came outof a cave.
So, given all of the above, I don’t think that the IRI has any similarity to Nazi Germany. I think a better comparison would be North Korea, which Christopher Hitchens so artfully describes here. The similarities between those two systems are striking.
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some basics on fascism
by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Tue Feb 02, 2010 02:01 PM PST1. The portrayal of the Iranian people in this blog is racist and wrong. There are thousands upon thousands of Iranians in the U.S. that work very hard and are successful professors, physicians, business persons. The notion that our people are lazy, non-industrious, and only sleep and eat is simply false. Some of the top scientists in the U.S. are Iranian.
2. The blog wrongly equates Nazi rule with fascism. German Nazism is only one specific example of fascism. The term "fascism" actually comes from the Italian variety.
3. The KKK is regarded as another example of fascism. KKK’s ideology is, in large parts, on its Christian religious beliefs. The KKK regards itself to be a "White Christian male organization."
4. No one group or regime would be 100% anything (e.g., fascist, communist, democracy). Depending on a variety of factors, including domestic and international factors, a regime or a leader would be able to implement some of their goals.
For example, on a scale from 0 to 100; 100 being full implementation of fascism, then one may give the following:
Hitler = 95
Khomeini = 85
Mussolini = 85
KKK = 80
Franco = 60
Everyone else
by Anonymous Observer on Tue Feb 02, 2010 02:00 PM PSTThanks for the comments.
MM: you are correct about the rose water. It is actually a disadvantage on their part in that their opponents can smell them before the can be seen, and take evasive maneuvers. :-)
Why the anger niloufar jan?
by Anonymous Observer on Tue Feb 02, 2010 02:19 PM PSTIs it because the other blog? Well, at least I'm not defending Russia! :-)) I am not singing the praises of the Nazis. But facts are facts. Nazis had great accomplishments in every scientific and technological field. Their atrocities, on the other hand were, of course, hideous, and at the end of the day, they deserved what they got.
I do have to say that they did, in fact, have one thing in common with the IRI: they both de-humanized their victims before they murdered them, one by using race and the other by using religion.
AO
by Niloufar Parsi on Tue Feb 02, 2010 01:35 PM PSTyour anger has taken you to the point of singing praises of nazis. i share your frustrations. many of us do. but this blog is totally pointless, in my opinion.
COP: sargord is totally right about the nazi economy. it had to go to war to sustain itself. its growth was built almost exclusively on armaments. a true war economy that had a very good chance of winning the war. it took the whole world almost to stop them.
the iri has no economic necessity to go to war. what you are referring to is a political necessity. and i totally agree with you on this. bush acted the same way. actaully the us economy is more like the german one of the time than the iranian one.
but i am not trying to divert attention here. you are right: they are trying to force another 30 years of mullacracy. only the mullahs' war is with their own.
IRI: Land of Prosperity
by AMIR1973 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 01:25 PM PSTI noted this on a previous post: it's worth comparing Iran's GDP per capita (purchasing power parity) with that of some other economic powerhouses. Here is a very partial list of countries whose GDP per capita is higher than that of Iran, a country with the third largest oil reserves and second largest natural gas reserves in the world:
Romania, Panama, Bulgaria, Belarus, Mauritius, Gabon, Mexico, Venezuela, Botswana, Turkey, Libya, etc, etc.
AO - you forgot about rose water
by MM on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:29 PM PSTWhile you mentioned that these 7th century Islamists do not like to take baths, they do love to mask BO smell with a spray of gol-aab. That combination of smells is so unique that lets everyone know they are coming around even better than if they had a freaking cow-bell around their necks.
Other than that, I enjoyed your comparisons.
Fatnastic job. Love every
by vildemose on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:07 PM PSTFatnastic job. Love every word.
Sargord, writers cramps yet?
by Cost-of-Progress on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:47 AM PSTI love this:
"Nazi economy was an unsustainable mess, which actually forced them to gamble upon a procession of continental war efforts"
Wow, actually this is very similar to what your beloved rapist mullahs and their alliance of reesh-o pashm are doing in the region: Trying to a wage war to secure yet another 31 more miserable years of tyranny and murder on iranians.
AO, great blog, thanks.
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Anon, while I agree with you
by Sargord Pirouz on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:28 AM PSTAnon, while I agree with you that the Nazi Germany analogy is unsound, I believe some of your impressions on the "positive" nature of the Third Reich is based on popular conception and mistaken.
As stated in the previous thread, I recommend reading "The Wages of Destruction" by Adam Tooze.
Contrary to popularized belief, the Nazi economy was an unsustainable mess, which actually forced them to gamble upon a procession of continental war efforts. (Very different situation to Iran, by the way.)