They come in all shapes and sizes.
From small petty characters who are paid by the number of keyboard strokes, unpaid yet zealous self proclaimed patriots , to full time agents of AIPAC and Israeli intelligence agents. From monarchist who are desperately trying to revise history by giving a face lift to the old tired and dictatorial regime, to MEK members who took arm against their own country and their own people during war with Iraq.
No matter what their motives, they share a one common and profound characteristic and that is an utter hatred of anything and everything Iranian.
For the paid group, be it piecemeal [by number of comments they produce] or the full time agents, agenda is pretty much clear. For them it is the war industry and what it stands for, being global domination and murder and misery that matters.
These groups have been shameless profiteers of war and bloodshed as long as human history. They profit from death and destruction. They serve one pay master, although at times it takes different name and nationality, but always remain the same bunches sociopaths whose leader is angel of death and misery. These people through practice in their trade have become masters of lies and deceit. Manipulation, misinformation, forgery, terror, cold-heartedness and any other traits which is down right repulsive to any and every decent human being has become second nature to them. They create wars and destruction in the morning, and go home at night to their families just like a common worker after a hard day work in the factory, without a shred of remorse and guilt for what they have done during the day.
The second group, the unpaid propaganda army, the so called patriots whom mostly, if not all, live in Diaspora, are the tools of the trade for the first group, the real professionals in the art of death and destruction. It is these repulsive groups that are manipulated, brain washed and played to the fullest like a well tuned violin without Inkling of realization . They have become mere puppets whose strings are pulled by the first group. These spineless groups often recite the talking points that they have absorbed through mass media, particularly biased media who serve certain imperialistic agendas of the first group. Relentless bombardment of lies, hatred and propaganda that are masterfully disguised under catchy and mouth filling slogans such as heritage, freedom, democracy and human rights are aimed at these group day and night.
This group, regardless of their political affiliations shares one commonality. They are an utter shame to humanity. They are utter shame for being Iranians and they are merely a expendable pawns in the game of perpetual and bloody wars, destruction and misery. They ever so shamefully call themselves patriots while propagating war and destruction on their own people. These people are even more dangerous than the paid agents, for they represent the ugliest and most repulsive trait in any human being, and that is high treason against their own nation and against their own country.
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by vildemose on Thu Apr 22, 2010 05:51 PM PDTOnly Iran: I'm sorry about your aunt. I've heard similar stories from my aunts and uncles. On one occasion, another group similar to basijee, I don't recall their name, beat up a poor boy in his early twentys and almost blinded him in one eys. He had more than 3 surgeris so far. I can't even stomack some of the twisted borderline diabolic comments by the likes of IRI an No Fear.
These cyber terrorists don't care about Islam, Iran or anything but their paycheck and perserving their paymasters. As long as those welfare checks keep coming in, they will spew their rotten propaganda 24/7.
Captain: Bravo and thanks.
How true!
by Spear on Fri Apr 23, 2010 05:07 PM PDT"Iran is not Islamic Hokomat, Iran has been there for thousands of years and will be there for yet another thousands..."
Indeed, I had pegged you wrong, Captain. Let's hope the bombs never fall on our homeland, even though the criminal IRI seems so utterly hell-bent on war, and desperate for yet another round of crisis to mask their internal failures in running this unfairly abused and noble land. The last thing the sons and daughters of Iran want is for any power to rain more abuse on our motherland. She has suffered more than her share, and then some.
IRI represents political Islam, not Iran
No Fear
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 05:04 PM PDTSince seems like they have called in the big guns, AKA some one who is so FearLess as you let me give you this scenario.
[The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.]
Iran has given enough patriot's blood in past three decades, guess whose turn it is now?! ;-)
-YT
IRI
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 04:31 PM PDTShould I feel faltered that you see me fit to stand for my beliefs?
I am not here to run a country, nor I am here to lay down a manifesto on how a nation should be run.
What I am here is to be a voice. A voice to suppressed Iranian people, granted if they humble me with their permission.
What you call securing a nation, in the notion of Hokomateh Esmali, I call suppression of ideas and freedom.
As I said before, make no mistake, I will take arm against whom ever attacks my country, BUT I will never support the most demonic bunch of people who walked face of the earth and who are in powers now in Iran.
Iran is not Islamic Hokomat, Iran has been there for thousands of years and will be there for yet another thousands, WITHOUT Islamic and without Pahlavic Regimes.
-YT
DELUSIONALS, Coming soon in theatres near you....
by No Fear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 04:20 PM PDTWhat fight? Which fighter? who? where?
While one argues IR is not Iran, they fail to explain when bombing starts, how can you seperate IR from Iran.
Anyway, who is going to fight this fight for you? The Zionist dogs? The half brain yankees? Or a bunch of intellectual wannabe geeks sitting behind their desks chanting " Freedom" !
yeah right... Keep up the fight , comrade! Motherland needs you! be careful not to break your nail for typing too hard on the keyboard.
Bache soosools....
Spear
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 04:04 PM PDTMy young and beloved fighter..............
Pleasure is all mine sir.
-YT
IRI writes,
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 03:47 PM PDT" In time you and many others will understand why the Islamic Republic did what it did. For now just know this, Islamic Republic of Iran does not enjoy totalitarian system and wants to have a happy and youthful population. There are many obstacles to achieve that. The system must secure Iranian nation, borders and itself before thinking about freedom."
What a joke! We've waited 31 years, a lifetime already, how much longer would you like us to wait for your beloved IRI to acquire a modicum of competence and achieve a "secure Iranian nation" before "thinking about freedom?"
By the way, I don't expect a sane and rational response, I just wanted to highlite your bankrupt "used-car salesman" pitch regarding the future welfare of a nation of 70 million people in order to make you look abjectly (and inherently) foolish.
You're welcome.
IRI represents political Islam, not Iran
OnlyIran
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 03:37 PM PDTYou're absolutely dead on, great responses. Don't pay much attention to these craven characters -- it's their "day job" to front for the criminal IRI. Money makes some people do some very nasty things in this world.
Keep up the fight for we shall succeed (that is the nature of earthly justice, ala karma), and I hope you're aunt is okay.
IRI represents political Islam, not Iran
Bravo, Captain!
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 03:36 PM PDTCaptain aptly writes to Mr./Mrs. IRI: "To me you and your kind are the worst kind of traitor to mother Iran.You have sold your soul to devil called Khomeini, Khamenie and their entire criminal entity...
Make no mistake sir, neither this blog, nor any of my blogs should be construed as inkling of my support for atrocities of HELL-SENT regime called IR. In contrast, my blog and comments are in total opposition to your criminal ideology and in total and unconditional support of Iranian people."
Well said, Captain. My apologies for the harsh tone earlier.
IRI represents political Islam, not Iran
Sooooo...
by Onlyiran on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:45 PM PDTwhat you're saying is that it's OK for the girl to be raped (BTW, she was taken away by the Basijis-I forgot to mention that) so long as there is some illusion of "security".
PS/ please provide us with all evidence in your possession that prove the elections were "stolen by Western powers". Please note that the evidence can NOT include the following:
-Articles from Farsnews, Mehrnews, ISNA, IRNA, Al-Alam, PressTV or any other IRI propaganda outlet;
-Speeches by Ali Gueda Khamenei;
-Speeches by Mahmoud Sibourjian a/k/a Mahmoud Ahmadinejad;
-Speeches by Mesbah Yazdi, Jannati, and any member of the Basij or the IRGC.
Onlyiran
by IRI on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:34 PM PDTmy answer to your scenario is that you can't hold our entire government and leadership responsible for chaotic events of election, which we came to know was then stolen by Western powers. They wanted another playground to do their experimental nation building game.
We are not happy that such a exciting and democratic event was turned into a playground for traitors. Look at Iranian papers, TV and all media and look at the youthful and energetic population of Iran during the election. Everything was open and free to discuss, people talked on the phone without care and so on. We want freedom, we want happiness in society, we want progress, we want democracy with Islamic Values. Yes we stand for all that but: our security comes first. It all stopped and went out of hand once security was jeopardized. In the US horrible crimes were committed when 9/11 happened and many disappeared without charge. Security of a nation changes freedom in land.
During chaos all people get hurt including my own brother in law who is very conservative and we argue all the time.
No Fear you are right
by IRI on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:20 PM PDTAnd people don't understand that the Islamic Republic people base support comes from traditional and religious sector (or dehaati people as pro Shahis call it). They want the Islamic Republic leave those who fought for Iran and the revolution, and are willing to do it again for those who are angry that we don't have googoosh singing in concerts in Iran. If they were concerned Iranians they would care about American soldiers surrounding their homeland. They would cheer the great accomplishments such as making the country able to read and write. Roads, rails, airports, highways, water, dams, factories, refineries, nuclear science (thought impossible before). In technological terms we are developing faster than we can spell it. But all the important security concerns is not their problem, and these achievements are not good enough because US doesn't say so. Well we think it should all be counted along with understanding the Islamic Republic position and its challenges. All of our security issues are our problems.
Some day at some point we all can meet, for now we understand that you can't make everyone happy.
Capt,
by No Fear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:20 PM PDTDo you see how thin the line of treason is, and how in the name of freedom , they recruit traitors?
They talk pre emptive strikes, liberation, freedom, democracy and all the same junk as the neo cons to justify their attack on Iran.
NMaybe we should do the same and follow their logic;
Are you with us, or against us?
IRI - Let me tell you what you stand for
by Onlyiran on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:24 PM PDTlast summer, right after the fake elections, when people were demonstrating for their votes to be counted, my aunt, a 64 year old woman, was walking in a park in Shiraz. As she was walking out of the park, she saw a group of people demonstrating on the street. Suddenly, a group of baton wielding basijis jumped out of a bunch of civilian cars and began to attack people. A couple a basijis then grabbed a young girl, perhaps in her teens, from among the peaceful demonstrators--right in front of my aunt. They then threw the girl onto the ground on the sidewalk, and one of the men kept telling her this: "we're going to take you to the prison and f**k you until you can't walk anymore". The other basiji told her "I will put my c**k in your mouth, and it will feel so good".
My 64 year old aunt who saw and heard this gathered up her courage and approached the two basijis and told them: "what do you want from this girl. She wasn't doing anything. She was just peacefully demonstrating". My aunt thought that because of her age, and the fact that she wasn't demonstration, they won't be violent with her. Well, she was wrong. That's not how things work in your "IRI". The basiji turned to her, shoved her with his hand and said this: "you better shut up, otherwise, you're going to the prison with her, and we will f**k you too."
This is what your "IRI" stands for. A brutal thug dictatorship.
dear capt
by hamsade ghadimi on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:13 PM PDTwhile i don't condone any foreign entitiy attacking iran under any pretense (at the moment), i believe that your analysis is somewhat simplistic. spear was alluding to this simplisitic approach and countered with an example to which you did not respond (GW a patriot or traitor?).
In your analysis there are two broad groups: 1) shahollahis and mek, 2) those who are brainwashed by shahollahis and mek. you're assuming all in group 1 want iri be engaged in a war. you're also assuming that anyone who wants to engage iri in a war (and is not in group 1) cannot come to that conculsion without the influence of group 1. both assumptions are fallacious and can be simply refuted by examples. not to mention that there are many other groups and persons with different agendas that may come to the same conclusion.
an old neighbor of ours who has lost both of his sons in the iran-iraq war used to pray for some country that has morals to bomb iran and free iranians from this damned regime. she doesn't belong to group 1 and has no contact with them or their literature. regrettably, she has come to that conclusion. i don't blame her for her frustration and have no ill will toward her. that's just one example. nonetheless, i believe that those who pray or work for that option are in the minority. furthermore, i don't discount them and would prefer to engage with them rather than badmouthing them and calling them unpatriotic.
cheers
IRI...
by No Fear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:06 PM PDTI share the same political thought as yours and support you fully.
Note how these so called intellectual wannabes resort to profanities when all we want to do is to engage them and let them know that they are still a part of Iran.
The majority of these absentees, ran away from Iran due to hardship and war , and have a tendency to live life the most easiest way. The word " koon gooshaad" fits them perfectly. Add a big mouth to it, and bingo,.. you have the profile of most IC contributors who advocate cheese burger democracies.
They can't even hold any alliance together and just by looking at their satelite programs and the amount of profanities being exchanged, indicates the sad state of existance that they live in.
Unlike this ilk, we can always count on one another, whether its in the front lines of the holy war against Iraq, or the front line of revolution or against any foreign invasion.
I salute you.
Capt Mohtaram
by IRI on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:05 PM PDTYou do not need to explain anything. Stand for your democratic ideas and not mine.
Running a country is not as easy as you might think. If you serve in government you will realize that there are many plans for toppling and taking you over. Specially in Iran. In time you and many others will understand why the Islamic Republic did what it did. For now just know this, Islamic Republic of Iran does not enjoy totalitarian system and wants to have a happy and youthful population. There are many obstacles to achieve that. The system must secure Iranian nation, borders and itself before thinking about freedom. That's for every society and every government. When Iran is secure you notice that papers are freer, people are more relaxed and all the other goodies. Even our election was very exciting until it was taken too far for too long. It's not a joke wanting to topple a system. Sorry for the news.
About your comment, you need to answer the points that you disagree with me rather than telling me that you don't agree just because of my name. Don't judge before you know the whole picture.
Captain, RE: this "IRI" user
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Apr 22, 2010 02:03 PM PDTIgnore this IRI character. He /she tries to tell us that s/he is the "official spokesperson" for the IRI. In reality, s/he is probably a disillusioned L.A. Iranican sitting at a Panera Bread in Westwood with a laptop posting these arajeefs on IC.
Or better yet, it's probably "Jaleho" under one of her many different usernames.
IRI
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 01:50 PM PDTI normally do not even bother to read nor respond to your kind, who blindly support, and only are, out of need for financial compensation, in support the Islamic Hokomat in Iran. To me you and your kind are the worst kind of traitor to mother Iran.You have sold your soul to devil called Khomeini, Khamenie and their entire criminal entity.
Make no mistake sir, neither this blog, nor any of my blogs should be construed as inkling of my support for atrocities of HELLSENT regime called IR.
In contrast, my blog and comments are in total opposition to your criminal ideology and in total and unconditional support of Iranian people.
So as long as we are crystal clear in our objectives.
-YT
The Islamic Republic of Iran has support
by IRI on Thu Apr 22, 2010 01:26 PM PDTTake a look at Iran, US, Germany, UK, Japan, and many other places on this great planet of ours and you see support for the Islamic Republic. I have not been here often and have noticed that many Iranians share the same concerns with their government. That is truly heart warming.
On the issue of Western warmongering, we have been able to stand strong against the Western aggression that plans for Greater Middle East. We have been able to explain and synchronize our strategies with our neighbors. Our issues are our neighbors concerns and they fully understand that the Western powers, specifically the United States has no business to remain by our borders and play the role of aggressive occupier. Our victory to transmit our plans to our neighboring countries that share similar religion, culture, and outlook has made the Western powers frustrated. Hopelessly they are trying to use their strong military mights against our logic and diplomacy. If history is any indication, they know well that they can't win with tools but must change behavior.
As President Ahmadinejad has put perfectly in his letter to Mr. Obama, you need Iran. Iran will not bend with threats, but shake hands with those who use diplomacy and dialogue on equal respect.
Vasalam.
Spear
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 01:23 PM PDTI always welcome constructive and civilized dialogue, that is why I set aside my precious time[as you do I am certain] to blog and write small pieces about what I believe and about impending devastating disaster on Iran. Proof is in my blogs and comments[you are welcome to browse through them].
The reason I chose not to engage you was because you started a name calling games which I find totally childish and unproductive waste of time.
Now, If you wish to engage in debate, mutually respectful,,,, Nokaretam hastam, but if are going to call my blog [childish], [high horse rider], [obtuse] then I will chose not to respond to you.
Your call,,,,
-YT
Whatever
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:55 PM PDTYes, I know I'm right (I can read Persian, if that's what you're trying to determine). "You said what you needed to say to me," fine, and I said what I needed to say to you, and what I had to say required a very simple answer, which you miserably failed at, sadly.
Check-mate.
Again, one last chance... Was George Washington a traitor? Were Thomas Jefferson and John Hancock guilty of high treason? Were John Adams and James Madison traitors? Was Benjamin Franklin, whose face adorns your one-hundred dollar bills, guilty of high treason?
I won't hold my breath.
IRI represents Islam, not Iran
شما درست میگی
capt_ayhabThu Apr 22, 2010 12:19 PM PDT
بیخیال لطفا وقت جدل کردن با شما و امثال شما نیست
چیزی که باید به شما گفته میشد، گفته شد، لزومی بیشتری در بحث با
شما را نمیبینم.
-YT
No, Captain, it is you who lacks substance!
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:14 PM PDTYou write, "Obviously you have nothing of substance to add to this subject."
I initially responded with substance to your charge of treason against me, and you responded with a silly quote by David Letterman, telling me I don't know anything. Why didn't you respond with SUBSTANCE to my George Washington argument? Why didn't you respond to my substantive argument about how the Father of America, George Washington (amongst others), who's hailed as the hero of the American Revolution, encouraged and sought military assistance and support from a foreign country, THE FRENCH, in order to oust their own hereditary tyrannts.
That was a substantive reply to your baseless charge of treason against me. Was George Washington guilty of high treaon? Was Thomas Jefferson a traitor to his own nation? Instead of ducking my substantive questions with silly quotes from David Letterman, answer my SUBSTANTIVE questions or at least go read some history and educate yourself before you open your mouth and make yourself look foolish!
IRI represents Islam, not Iran
Ok Spear
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:52 AM PDTYou have successfully demonstrated your lack of civility and logic.
From get go you have been showing what you stand for and that war on Iran and misery on Iranian. Now you are upset that I have called you on your baseless, uncivilized, illogical and slanderous propaganda.
Your belligerence in your comments is clear indication of the fact I have hit a nerve with you and the ilk you belong to. Group[s] that I have dissected in this blog.
Since you refrain to have a civilized dialogue, I respectfully invite you to troll else where. Obviously you have nothing of substance to add to this subject other than slanders and name calling.
Have a wonderful day.
-YT
I knew you were the petty sort,
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:42 AM PDTthat's why I wrote, unless you have a SUBSTANTIVE reply, keep your insults to yourself. Of course, I was 100% correct. I destroyed your foolish nonsense, and with nothing substantive to reply with, you resort to quoting, not Einstein, Voltaire, or Hafez for that matter, but a half-ass talk-show host who's accused of sexual harrassment by his own employees.
This is just like you, Ayhab, to champion the cause of the lowest common denominator out there. You're extremely uneducated, unlearned, and a reactionary person. You have ZERO intellectual standing, so all you do all the time is resort to accusations.
That's your tool and trade.
IRI represents Islam, not Iran
Spear
by capt_ayhab on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:27 AM PDT[The worst tempered people I have ever met were those who knew that they were wrong.] -David Letterman
I see it nicely applies.
-YT
And please,
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:25 AM PDTUnless you have substantive counter arguments, don't bother to reply with baseless accusations about treason this or traitor that.
IRI represents Islam, not Iran
One more thing,
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:34 AM PDTI suggest you go read some history regarding your following statement: "I firmly believe that, asides from its definition, who ever advocates any sort of military strike on his/her home land is committing act of high treason. You do not see any other country who are under any form of dictatorship to advocate such act on their own land do we?"
If you knew your American history, you would know that the founding fathers of this country, primarily George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, were very instrumental in seeking French military support in ousting the "dictatorship" of the British. The founding fathers were also British in origin, mind you. They were advocating the removal of their own hereditary dicators and they promoted and sought French military support against the British colonies in order to FREE them from the yoke of dictatorship -- this is a fact!
Were the American founding fathers guilty of high treason? This is precisely what the British charged the founding fathers with!!! They were labeled as traitors and charged with high treason by their dictators and their supporters! Therefore, according to your definition, George Washington was guilty of high treason and a traitor to his own nation! So, please, don't inject technical definitions into this issue. In fact, without French support, the American revolution would've NEVER happened under George Washington -- NEVER!!! And today, you probably would have the picture of the Queen on your dollar bills!
IRI represents Islam, not Iran
Captain,
by Spear on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:13 AM PDTAre you seriously trying to sound obtuse? I only brought up the "Turk" example to show you that it has nothing per se to do with zionism, and then you inject your own prejudices by reading something inherently racist into my use of the term "Turk."
My initial point was that it has nothing to do with Turks or zionists, it could be the Bulgarians, as far as I care. You're either intentionally trying to sabotage my argument with asides about prejudicial terms or you just don't get it.
I simply said why not substitute Turkey for Israel, meaning in total -- what if Turkey had threatened Iran with sanctions, strikes, whatever. Imagine it was the Turks abusing the rights of Palestianians -- for that matter imagine it was the Bulgarians or Uzbeks, it doesn't matter -- the point is, I would advocate strikes against IRI's nuclear facilites no matter who was making the threats, whether it be the Uzbeks (FOR EXAMPLE) or anyone else who was standing between the IRI and nuclear weapons -- would that make me an Uzbek, as you charge me and others like me of being AIPAC or a "zionist."
I'm neither, I just don't want the terrorists holding my nation hostage for 31 years to get their hands on nukes, period. And if you think the IRI has not been seeking to make nukes for over 20 years, then you really are obtuse, my apologies.
IRI represents Islam, not Iran