About myself:
I'm half Iranian and half American. I'm here to say what I think. If you came here to be pleased or flattered, you're in the wrong place. No one owns me. I'm a free individual. I don't bow to anyone's politics, here or in Iran. I'm my own person, and that's too bad if anyone doesn't like it. When people read my stuff, they'll get MY opinion. I alone am responsible for my opinion - no one else is. Likewise, I'm not responsible for your opinion, or your assumptions about me. You are.Have you ever heard of the story, Rip Van Winkle?
Its about a guy who ended up being trapped in the past because he fell asleep and woke up many years later.
Iranians and Arabs seem to be little Middle Eastern Rip Van Winkles who can't just move on.
Keep arguing over what to name the gulf.
Big deal.
Neither of you even accurately mapped the darned thing.
Today, if I want to look at a map of the gulf, I'm willing to bet that the map wasn't made either by the Iranians or the Arabs.
Westerners probably mapped it and explored it.
That means that neither Arabs nor Iranians even knew what it looked like, until Westerners showed them.
Iranians and Arabs are still going on and on... and on, about which one of the two "owns" it.
Neither of them do.
America consumes most of the oil that comes from it.
Its economy benefits.
If we were to graph which country consumed most of the oil from it, and consequently which one used that to develop, you'd probably find its America.
Also, while the Iranians and Arabs were bitching at each other over what the gulf is supposed to be called, the Westerners not only discovered the oil that has made it the center of the economic universe, they also studied the life that can be found in it.
Western scientists studied what's in the gulf.
While the Arabs and Iranians shouted at each other "Mine!", "No, Mine!", the Westerners probably discovered, catalogued and scientifically studied every plant and animal species in the gulf.
What impact have Arabs and Iranians had on the gulf?
Both of them have polluted it.
That's probably their only contribution to it.
//www.rferl.org/content/article/1078857.html
They were never even interested in what's in the gulf.
All they care about is their precious reputations - as usual.
Iranians are showing off with their powerful armed speedboats.
Arabs are showing off, building - or rather, hiring others to build - artificial Islands there.
... looks like my friend's school project, from back in the day.
If someone calls the gulf "Persian", the shine will fade off of big Arab noses, and they'll be in trouble with the Arabs!
If someone calls the gulf "Arabian", Iranians will get angry! Who knows what will happen then? Perhaps some deadly dampai will hit you!
... and if you just say "gulf", then you're in trouble with both of them!
Iranians and Arabs will probably still be arguing about what the gulf is supposed to be called, while the West starts developing new technologies and finds new sources of energy.
As its oil is depleted, the gulf will lose its significance to the world.
And those remarkable Iranians and great Arabs will still be fighting over what it is supposed to be called.
By the time it dawns on either of them that no one cares about what it was ever called, it will be too late.
Enough already!
What to call the damned gulf?
I name it "Pollution Gulf", in honor of Arab and Iranian contributions to it!
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You have a lot of anger
by Cost-of-Progress on Fri Oct 07, 2011 04:23 AM PDTI am no pscho-analyst, but troubled people are easy to spot.
I recommend medication.
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IRAN FIRST
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You are not answering my question!
by darius on Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:23 PM PDTObviously, Every Great Civilization Has a Life Cycle
by JahanKhalili on Thu Oct 06, 2011 09:05 PM PDTIran was at a crossroads of conquerors, and was conquered or had migrations across it many times.
Such things were obviously disruptive and destructive.
Obviously, Iranians Once Had an Empire
by JahanKhalili on Thu Oct 06, 2011 08:55 PM PDTThey won it.
... and they lost it.
They're particularly sore that they got their butts kicked by much smaller Greece.
There are probably some lessons Iranians could learn from that defeat, if they bothered to study it.
It might help them to avoid repeating the same mistakes.
But they don't study it because they don't like it or don't want to accept that it says anything about Iranians.
They just want to take credit for the good or the great things that are associated with Iranian history.
This shows that many Iranians have an inferiority complex.
I asked a simple question
by darius on Thu Oct 06, 2011 08:35 PM PDTI did not try to be smart about it, I asked you a simple question.Explain How did they got to Greece.
Is it a fair question to ask you?
Explain
How come the mighty Greek , the cradle of great teachers and mathematician is bankrupt today?What happened to their brain?
( let blame Iranian and Aabs for it)
How about Roman(the cradle of democracy,power ,engineering and the best in slaughtering human for entertainment)? What happened to those geniuses? Isn't that a true statement to claim that they have the worse reputation for cheating,lying, theft etc?)
We, as Iraninan might be loser or useless but when comes to reality we are not behind many nations .
Yeah
by JahanKhalili on Thu Oct 06, 2011 06:46 PM PDTIranians got their asses kicked by the Greeks in that war - though they'd rather go to hell than to admit it.
question
by darius on Thu Oct 06, 2011 04:53 PM PDTWas battle of Greek navy and Persian navy a real historical event?
How the ..... those bastard Persian got there?
I appreciate your feed back.Just let you know, my knowledge of history does not extend beyond movie 300.
Thank you