Jahanshah Rashidian

RE:Anti-AGhazadeh

You are the sad Iranian who can't talk his point unless makes another wrong! Man speak, speak your mind and explain your idea of Iran and how the change is possible. This author is writing for people like you? it's easy to write to you, here it is:
IRI, Mullah, bad, evil Islam, Backward. Aghazadeh, baj geer IRI, bad Arabs.

Is that all that your vocabulary can take? I mean come on, enough man. Talking like a true idiot. I gave my reasons and possibilities that Iran might have, what's your answer? dah dah dah dah IRI dah dah dah bad dah dah islam...
Are you the one who wants to free Iran? Hope not, stay in the west and calm down. Go have a drink, what's business do you have with politics?
Mr. Rashidian, did you get my point that some part is IRI fault and another the population (Public/people) I mean listen to the logic of this dude. This guy can't understand the advance society, he is still living in pre-constitutional revolution...He can't say what he wants, but he can say that I am an IRI agent. That's it. His argument. Well established logic, I feel like the age of reason has suddenly hit Iran!

Me thinks Mehdi and Xeerxes

Me thinks Mehdi and Xeerxes protesth too much. How rich have your parents have gotten Aghazadehah? What do you stand to lose if the regime is overthrown? Is it only monetary concerns or you people have committed atrocities against the people of Iran such as torturing prisoners etc????Come clean xerexes and Mehdi Aghazadeha!!!!

One thing is for certain, and change in IRan will not be through reformers or their cronies and it won't be bloodless after all the crimes against humanity the reformers and hardliners alike have committed. You can't defy the law of universe. You two btw sound like the Shahis before the revolution...take your family out before its too late...

RE:Jahanshah Rashidian

They are two Iran when we speak about the IRI. One is the side that has the "image" of religion and hides behind it. Some good things at times have come out of it. Not for the progressive part of the society but for the more traditional and somehow systematically uneducated. They trusted the regime to send their daughters to school. This is not a joke, many Iranians during the Shah did not trust the regime and didn't want their daughters to become Faased. The result, An educated population including girls. The IRI also has not been against technological progression. That is the fact.
Shortcoming, wow, they are many. The problem in the judiciary in Iran, to name one, is that the "local" judge is based on the Mullah on the area. Means that many times for the same crime, you would get different punishments. If you live in a more relaxed social environment, the judge would be more relaxed and vice versa. That is the IRI problem in the big picture, but also the population problem on the lower level. Many in different regions WANT to punish the accused in that harsh way.
I can go on and explain but let me jump to the finish line. We have three (or more but for now) possible options:
1-To revolt and trust that the next person, whoever that is, would save us and brings Democracy to our door steps.
2-To continue with the system and hope that in the long run the regime will be forced to reform, if it doesn't want to lose power. Eventually the educated crowd will put pressure to the system
3-To want foreign intervention, to coup against the regime (highly unlikely) or to bomb Iran and declare war, which the result can not be calculated.

Iran has a backward government and the people have been a few steps a head of the system for many years. I think that the people will come to terms with religion on their own and will find the solution in the long run. Iranians, having visited there often, are much more aware about all these stuff that you see in this site. And they are not gullible and socially they are advancing more than any country in the region, including Turkey and arguably Israel. That is something that no one has given to us or can take away from us. If we want to overthrow the regime, we must understand the Iran 101, that is that Iran is still a traditional society, that Iran is not northern Tehran, and that we are on the move to break certain taboos. You might think that you have discovered a new thing that is so wow. No, In Iran this stuff "khoraakeshune", nothing big deal. Iranians have move on and are a few steps a head, and thinking how to reform this regime or how to fight it. Iranians here, unfortunately have not been helpful at all and I think many have been helping IRI by standing aqlong side the western nation, specifically US. I think this is a long discussion, hope I could transmit my thoughts.

R.Mehdi (lack of education will ....)

I don't like to use ignorant.I think it's lack of education.

Man is the supreme Talisman. Lack of a proper education hath, however, deprived him of that which he doth inherently possess. Education can, alone, cause it to reveal its treasures, and enable mankind to benefit therefrom.

Observe to what degree the lack of education will weaken and degrade people.

and watch carefully how education and the arts of civilization bring honor, prosperity, independence and freedom to people.

Have a Great Day

Regard,
Mona

When Fun Becomes Tragedy

I also accept the premise that a healthy and logical brain would not take "Halol Massa'l" seriously, but what happen when it can be sacred for others to a pattern model. What happens when it is a judicial model. Then, we have something seriously not funny on the shoulder, a tragedy instead a funny book.  Are not the increasing rate of savage verdicts under the IRI an inspiration of such a tragedy? 

A political system based on such a belief sytem cannot help any Iranian to evolve, especially the less fortunate, as pretended by some IRI's supporters. Only  it deems to be in its ideological self-interest.

There is a convergence between what is superstitionc, and what is in everyone’s best hope. 

And if that’s the case, is it possible to reform a belief system which is based on obsurity that will inure to the benefit of all, democracy and progress alike?

RE: proof

Have you ever met any Iranian who would think this way? I haven't and my grand parents as an example, are very religious. Iranian style Islam is not accepted by the majority of the moslems world wide, why? Our Iranian culture is much greater and has digested Islam in its own way. All I am saying is that you can find a westerner who would have this mentality if you search hard enough, but is that what you perceive the west to be? digeh nagu Iraniyaa khar hastan, chun momkeneh az nazare siyasi kolah sareshun ziyad rafteh, vali dast e kam nagireshun digeh baba.

I'd have to agree with XerXes here

One needs to "pick his fights." Just going around and attacking everything is not very productive. People will not change overnight to the degree that you expect. Keep in mind you have been exposed to a MUCH better environment for YEARS before you realized some of these things. You must have a plan instead of just going around and be mad at ignorance. Pick your fights - don't fight on ALL fronts. Strategically incorrect - ask any army general.

R.XerXes

You're right about some people who buy it to """ laugh and have a good time in their gathering"""

but other people, they, believe these nonsense,
and accept it.

It's pity,man.

Ziyaad sakht nageer

Iranians always know this stuff is k-- sher. In most homes in Iran people would have khomaini's halol masaa'el and/or Obaid e Zakani, to laugh and have a good time. So don't take these too seriously. Not everything in Iran is what you think it to be, actually the things that you don't hear are the realities of Iran. That's our culture. khaili to ham deegeh bi kaari

Eezghaaeel iz democ-ghaatik

Gheemembeh zat never talk bad about my konteghee o we will punish yu. We aagh demok-ghaateek.bad about ezghaaeel means yu dont like ough ghelijen.

Sank yu, and send money so we can be feghends

Az gheyeyt toghaa sez:
akh akh makh shakho shakh

Youghs

Ghabbay Kungoshad

R:Valid

P.S.  About the US invasion in Iraq and Afghanistan: I join the camp of all democrats by condemning the invasion and demanding immediate evacuation.

Also Israeli invasion and the status quo in this region must be solved basen on UN resolutions.

All these has nothing to do in common with the plague of the IRI or Islamists. They remain the main ills for Iran. 

ancheh keh dar payeene inja

ancheh keh dar payeene inja neveshteh mishavad
not matlabe zeil
Mr. Rashidian please use farsi words and not arabic to show that you really care.

R. Valid

I believe that the IRI is a totalitarian regime and must be rejected entirely even if today it were in position to violently impose its rule on Iran.

I do not care about any religion as long as it does not rule. Therefore, I am for a secular and democratic regime. 

I am not anti or pro something, rather pragmatist.

The West has no competence nor right to militarily attack Iran. West is mainly greedy and even hypocritical regarding human rights abuses throughout the world. The obvious truth is that ongoing human rights abuses that the West prefers to turn the head and look the other way.

I have already described my discord with a war or economic sanctions on Iran.

Here is another resumé:

I do not propose economic sanctions on the basic needs of people, nor am I for a military adventure, but for sharp sanction on the perpetrators, the IRI’s seniors. Sanctions must be politically and judicially so worked out that they only target the crimes and corruption of IRI’s officials, not people.

Western blind sanctions are not the real solutions; in fact, the regime sanctions should only target the repressive organs and judicial backgrounds of IRI’s officials. The values of liberty, democracy, Human Rights, and support of Iranians' struggles against the plague of the IRI must be more important in order to punish the regime, not the Iranian people. 

SUPERSTITION born of the IGNORANCE of MAN.

Religious teaching which is at variance with science and reason is HUMAN INVENTION and IMAGINATION unworthy of acceptance, for the antithesis and opposite of knowledge is SUPERSTITION born of the IGNORANCE of MAN.

If we say religion is opposed to science, we lack knowledge of either true science or true religion, for both are founded upon the premises and conclusions of reason, and both must BEAR its TEST.

R.Ali

God has created man in order that he may perceive the verity of existence and endowed him with mind or reason to discover truth. Therefore, scientific knowledge and religious belief must be conformable to the analysis of this divine faculty in man.

Dear Rashidian

Mr. Rashidian

Most of the time your critic of Mullahs are valid.

For me it is matter of timing and your intentions i.e. your final destination.

Please explain what are your thoughts on US ad Israel-war, Iraq-war ... finally the nticipated Iran war ? how do you make the connection?

Your critic remains abstract and does not address the bigger picture!

Never the less, it should be heard as a reminder of what is wrong with Iran.

The Essential Harmony Of Science and Religion

Religion must conform to science and reason, otherwise it is superstition.
God has created man in order that he may perceive the verity of existence and endowed him with mind or reason to discover truth. Therefore scientific knowledge and religious belief must be conformable to the analysis of this divine faculty in man.

Rashidian's weakness and dishonesty

This is another one of your dishonest attempts to discredit the reform movement in Iran.

Of course, you are too intellectually incompetent to quote and challenge real Islamic philosophers and thinkers. Let's see you challenge Molasarda and Farabi or even Dr Soroush and Prof Nasr! It is too easy to pick your battles and challenge fairy tales whose sources are unacceptable to every mojtahed.