Iranian Liberal Democrat

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Ahura jaan,

All I can do it to provide data and information.  It is up to the person to accept these.  Some are members of the Flat earth Society and there is nothing anyone can do to about that.

Best,

Masoud

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RobertBorden54,

Actually there are a lot of reports that the loot (wealth taken illegitimately, by force, and extortion) was transfered outside.

In this news report it states that in Swiss banks alone, they Pahlavis had about 4 Billion Swiss Francs.  This is about 4 Billion (B and Boy) US dollars in the 1979 money.

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl7jY3xywM4&feature=player_embedded

Reza Shah also stole from small land owners and well as those with industries.   In fact Ahmad Kasravi lost his job because as judge he did not go along with Reza Shah stealing the lands of some small owners. 

I hope this is helpful.

MK 

Reza Shah Bank Account of £ 3,000,000 (circa 1942 money)

Ervand Abrahamian, Iran Between Two Revolutions (Princeton, Princeton University Press, 1982).

p. 137.

Reza Shah... accumulated enough wealth during his reign to become the richest man in Iran. A sympathetic biography, published in the West, admits that on his abdication Reza Shah left to his heir a bank account of some £ 3,000,000 and estates totaling over 3,000,000 acres. 37 [Wilber, Riza Shah, pp. 243-44]. These estates, which were concentrated in the fertile province of Mazandaran, were obtained partly by outright confiscations, party by forced sales, and partly by dubious claims to royal domain that had been alienated during the previous century. The British legation reported that the shah, with his "unholy interest" in property, expropriated the land of one major landowner for plotting against the state, confiscated the villages of another for neglecting national resources and ruined a number of peasants by diverting their irrigated water.88 [British Minister to the Foreign Office, "Report on the Seizure of Lands," F.O. 371/Persia 1932/34-16077; "The Shah’s Acquisition of Lands," F.O. 371/Persia 1935/34-18992.]

//books.google.com/books?id=qh_QotrY7RkC&pg=PA137&dq=Abrahamian+iran+between+two+revolutions+court+patronage+served+as+the+third&hl=en&ei=92lXTN-9O4H-8AaS3o2nBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

p. 153

And Kasravi lost his provincial judgship soon after ruling in favor of a group of small landowners who had been dispossessed by the shah.

...

P. 154

.. At the same time, he [Kasravi] gave the fallen shah [Reza Shah] low marks for trampling over the constitution, favoring the military over civilian administration, accumulating a private fortune, stealing other people’s property, murdering progressive intellectuals, and widening the gap between the haves and the have-nots. 115 [A. Kasravi, "Concerning Reza Shah Pahlevi," Parcham, 23-25 June 1952.

Bravo Masoud, Teaching Us Civility by Your Conduct

Your polite and measured responses to the personal attacks and verbal abuses show your class and are valuable lessons in civil discourse.  Thanks for taking the time to provide these links, explanations, and responses.  

My apologies for repetition but the most reliable source on Pahlavi’s wealth is the Pahlavi family.  If Mr. Reza Pahlavi and Mrs. Farah Diba Pahlavi have nothing to hide they can easily make their wealth a public record for all Iranians to see.  That would be an authentic document to refute all the unreliable, as some insist, information cited in this blog.

Understanding what is really documented

What is really documented in the links (and I did read them), is that Reza Shah expropriated a lot of land (not from "the people" but from various Qajars and provincial notables).  This is understandable since he needed to take away the economic base of the semi-feudal Qajar rule.  Maybe he also benefitted from it during his 16 yr reign that transfroemed Iran.  Subsequently Mohammad Reza Shah re-distributed much of the land to peasants (in part during the reforms of the so-called "white revolution"). 

On the issue of the Pahlavi Foundation, much of its wealth (wherever it came from) was intact after the revolution.  It was turned into the Alavi Foundation by IRI.  Evidence of the Foundation's continued wealth came out recently in the US when the Federal government went after the Alavi Foundation activities.  It emerged that The Alavi Foundation was the proprietor of multi-billion dollar real estate assets in New York.

I have no doubt that there were massive financial irregularities during the Pahlavi era.  This isn't very unusual in rapidly expanding developing economies.  But to say they looted the country (i.e. left the country poorer than they had found it) is unfair and comes from pure blind hate or some weird sense of jealousy. 

The blog's hypothesis that the links provide evidence of this alleged Pahlavi loot is ridiculous since there is no evidence that the wealth described was transferred by the Pahlavis into their own control in anticipation of leaving Iran. All the evidence that exists on the sources as described by the links in the blog point to the contrary: The land reforms of the shah and the recently revealed financial status of the Alavi Foundation.

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P_J jaan,

Thank you for your comments.

I expected their first reactions to be such outbursts. Such reactions are common. Plato in his Republic some 2,400 years ago discusses in the "allegory of the cave" when those brainwashed to belief nonsense would want to kill the person who tell them the truth.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

However, I hope that they would READ the two little chapters. Gradually, these facts will have their effect on them. Education is a slow process. We have to have patience.

Best,

Masoud

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Dariush jaan,

Thank you for the links again. They were useful. I will win you back my friend. You are a good and decent person.

Best,

Masoud

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Shushtari jaan,

the following are your words:

"nooshe jooneshoon!!!

....

whatever the shah and his family took, which I know is minimal, is nothing compared the plunder of the mullahs"

Did you watch the video provided by Dariush where the reporter states that the Pahlavi family had in the their Swiss bank accounts about 4 BILLION Swiss Francs (about 4 Billion US dollars)? That was Billion, with "B" as in "Boy."

Best,

Masoud

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Oktaby,

Please do READ the materials in the two books. They provide superb documentation.

Best,

Masoud

Dear Masoud! Great REBUTTAL!

Dear Masoud:  As we have seen on this site, there is not an iota of difference between the “shahollah” and “Hezbollah”….they seem to share a notable characteristic…low IQ, consequently they can retionalize anything...no matter how heinous!  

So far you have been as thorough as one can be….analyzing and breaking down every point and bringing home what a logical mind would either accept or reject, with logical rebuttal or counterpoints.   Unfortunately, we do not see that here!   These people have nothing to say therefore resort to character assassination!   They are the same type of individuals that German GESTAPO utilized and brought to life as “Brown Shirts”.    Failed individuals with no self-respect who were/are psychological parasites….and their lives are consumed by IDLE worshiping!   These idles are either false prophets like Khomeini or monsters like Hitler, Stalin, Sadam Hussein or a TRAITOR like Mohammad Reza Pahlavi….they all had one thing in common, they butchered thousands of innocent human beings….in case of Stalin or Hitler that number was in millions!     

Same way that there are still people in Russia nostalgic about Stalin, one of the biggest murderers of all time!   Shaholahis must be suffering the same nostalgic WITHDRAWLS!    These are folks that would have filled the ranks at SAVAK and/or Evin Prison and would have had no trouble torturing or killing those who thought differently from them!   By the way their COMPATRIOTS, the Hezbollahis, are doing just that as we speak…. in the name of the Ayatollahs….Shohollahis would have done, and some did, same in the name of Shah!

Masoud, you are skating

Nonsense by any other name is still nonsense. Your first endorsement of this fluff comes from an islamist that on another blog called Iran 'the most impoverished nation in the world'. That is telling.

With 31 years of learning on previous regime, you use 31 year old tabloid material as evidence; never mind your total lack of priority or focus. Write for National Enquirer. You want to write fiction great, but this junk here has contributed to more innuendo and hysterics not history.

I addressed what you brought up including the suspicious and worthless source Graham that you use. Believe what you like but along with JZM & Graham, you lack any credibility whatsoever.  

OKtaby

Massoud Jaan You Lost Me ...

Just to let you know that you are the typical example of what is Fundamentally wrong with most Iranians particularly of your generation in their struggle for democracy: GETTING THEIR PRIORITIES WRONG !

I won't waste my time by answering to your responses with counter arguments because I don't think they deserve one.

I Know My Place:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DUsGSMwZY

Good Luck in your lonely quest to Intellectual oblivion in the dustbins of history ...

Best,

DK

massoud khan

I NEVER agreed with your 'assumption' that the pahlavis looted iran.....

I never said it's ok to steal........I would like to see your vision of iran without reza shah's great accomplishments for iran......with the qajar thieves giving away parts of iran bit by bit!

the point is, for you to spend valuable time on such a pointless subject is beyond baffling.....

now, on the other hand, I used to greatly respect jebhe melli and it's patriotic goals.....HOWEVER, THAT ALL WENT DOWN THE TOILET WHEN THEY ABANDONED BAKHTIAR AND SOLD IRAN DOWN THE RIVER TO THE MULLAHS IN 1979.....

I am not a monarchist by any stretch, HOWEVER, I know for a fact that without REZA SHAH, iran would be handed over to the mullahs 70 years ago by the british, IMAGINE THAT... 

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Afshin,

If you actually click on the link, and READ the materials, you would agree that indeed the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran. The evidence is strong and from zillion sources.  If you disagree with me, then you have to PROVE it by using the materials contained in the sources I included. 

MK

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Dariush,

Thank you so very much for the links.

1. The link to Chelsea Clinton’s wedding has nothing to do with Reza Shah extorting land in Iran.

2. The link to Soraya states the following:

"A £50 million fortune left by the Shah of Iran's second wife to her brother is to be passed to a German state government after he died without making a will and all claimants were found to be impostors." and "Her jewellery alone, which included her engagement ring from the Shah - adorned with a diamond weighing 22.37 carats - and a platinum and sapphire necklace designed by the Italian jeweller Bulgari, raised £1.3 million"

I don’t think this is helpful to your case. :-)

3. The link to Millionare Mollahs also had nothing to do with the fact that the Pahlavi family LOOTED Iran.

4. Khomeini was a moron. He had no feelings for Iran. He was a charlatan and genocidal man. These facts have nothing to do with that FACT that the Pahlavi family LOOTED Iran.

In my other blog, I had discussed the violent attacks by the Shah on the JM and other democratic organizations.

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/oriana-fallaci-interview-mohammad-reza-shah-religion

5. Thank you for the link to your post on Amir-Entezam’s maltreatment by the fundamentalist terrorist regime. But what in the world this has anything to do with the FACT that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran.

6. I condemn the assassination of Fereydoon Farrokhzad. In this video, he is right to condemn anyone who sells his mind to Khomeini. I condemn all those who sell their services to the fundamentalist terrorist regime and to the Pahlavi fascists as fahesheh siasi.

It was and is the responsibility of all decent Iranians who love the Iranian people to fight against the brutal fascist regimes of the Pahlavis and the brutal fascist fundamentalists.

BOTH Pahlavis and the fundamentalists LOOTED Iran.

BOTH Pahlavis and the fundamentalist imposed their brutal dictatorship on the Iranian people.

BOTH Pahlavis and the fundamentalists tortured and killed wonderful Iranian people.

The Iranian people deserve much much better governments than the thieves, torturers, and murders of the Pahlavis and fundamentalists.

It is hypocrisy to remain silent on one of these regimes and only condemn the other. We have to be honest and condemn BOTH of them.

7. You wrote: "Khejalat Ham Khoub Cheezyeh"

I fully agree.

Best,

Masoud

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Ali jaan,

Actually the provisional government started using the courts to get the money LOOTED by the Pahlavis back. But the moron Khomeini and the terrorist fundamentalist students took Americans hostage. How in the world a government that is violating international law could go to courts and make the arguments that the money looted should be returned.

Also Swiss banks are a haven for dictators around the world who hide their money there so when they are overthrown they can keep their loot safe.

However, at a minimum, we could demand that Reza Pahlavi to release his IRS tax returns. He has taken the oath to be the KING. He has not renounced his claim. At a minimum, he should tell the people how much money was given to him in 1980 from the Pahlavi LOOT.

And please do me a favor, and click on the links I provided. Spend less than one hour reading those brief chapters in the two books. The evidence is overwhelming.

Best,

Masoud

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Comrade,

Yes, Reza Pahlavi should publish his IRI tax returns. According to the video (courtesy of Dariush Kadivar), the Pahlavis kept part of the LOOT in Swiss banks.

Best,

MK

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Shushtari,

We both agree that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran. You say that stealing is fine. I say that one of the reasons that the people intensely hated the Pahlavis was due to the LOOTING of Iran by the Pahlavis and the corruption among the elites. LOOTING of Iran by the Pahlavis was not the number one cause of the revolution, but one of the top 5 or 6 reasons.

MK

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ELS,

Did you READ the two chapters in the books I provided? I suggest that at least READ the evidence, then write about them. The evidence is overwhelming and they show that LOOTING was LOOTING of other people’s property.

Insulting me and the pro-democracy organizations, is NOT GERMANE to the FACT that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran. Read the evidence and then present an intelligent response.

MK

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P_J jaan,

You are most welcomed.

Best wishes,

Masoud

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Darish aziz,

These three links have NOTHING to do with the FACT that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran. I condemn the LOOTING of Iran by Reza Shah and Mohammad Reza Shah.  And I support Prince Charles opposing the fundamentalist terrorist regime trying to build a new embassy.

Aynak is right. If you want your posts to be effective, you should not include soooooo many links that are unrelated to the point of discussion. All of us are busy and could not read soooo many stuff, especially, when they are not germane to the debate.

Aynak is also right, insulting the person who presents an argument against your position, does NOT prove your point. You can win a debate by showing evidence that that person’s argument is wrong.

By insulting others instead of presenting evidence and arguments that undermine their argument, you only make yourself look bad. It shows that you lack evidence and logical arguments.

I hope this is helpful.

Masoud

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MRX 1,

Do YOU realize that the first part of YOUR assertion contradicts the second part of YOUR assertion. First you say that they Pahlavis did not steal. In the second part, you admit they did and say great that they did. You lack internal logical consistency.

FIRST part: "For thirty years all the enemy's of shah of Iran had everything in their power to dig this and find out and yet they could not find zilch.Eeven IRI with it's massive propoganda machine could not even fudge some phony numbers to make these isalmists feel happy."

SECOND part: "So what ever pahlavi's took, noosh jooneshan! I am gald they didn't give a dime to mr. MK and folks like him. One thing is for sure, the amount they took is tiny in comaprison what mullah's and aghazadeh's have taken for the past thirty years."

:-)

Masoud

P.S. If you want to present arguments that are logical, I suggest you take an introductory class on logic at a community college close to you. They are usually offered by the Philosophy departments. Best of luck.

seannewyork,

Insulting me, will not undermine the fact that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran. You need to read the two chapters in the books I placed links to. Then, if the evidence there confirm my assertion, then a logical and honest person would agree with my sentence that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran. If you find that the evidence does not support my assertion, they you can use those sources to refute my assertion.

If you do this, I will publicly accept that I was wrong.

But if instead of using your brain, you keep throwing insults, then the readers would logically conclude that you have no evidence and logical arguments and are soooooo frustrated that can only fume and insult.

I hope this is helpful.

Masoud

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Kamran Ramya,

The evidence presented in the links substantiate the anecdotal evidence provided by so many others such as yours.

Best,

Masoud

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Aynak jaan,

You are correct. I am so amazed at the utter lack of logic by the monarchists. I think they are mostly frustrated because they know that it is true that the Pahlavis looted Iran. Also some of them are under the illusion that by insulting they can intimidate others into silence.

If I was saying these in 1978, and they could, the SAVAK would be torture and execute me. Now, all they can do is to insult.

Best,

Masoud

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Comrade,

You asked: "Why now?"

It is a very good question. In the past year, many monarchists in this site have been attacking JM and Dr. Mossadegh with FALSE allegation and lies. I ignored MOST of them. On a few occasions, I simply posted blogs and presented the historical fact by using actual texts of scholarly works by top scholars of Iran. I avoided any personal stuff despite insults. I only posted scholarly materials to refute the lies by the monarchists.

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/history-lesson-dr-mossadegh-rights-bahais-vs-mohammad-reza-pahlavi-rights-bah

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/history-lesson-dr-mossadegh-and-female-franchise-debunking-disinformation

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/mossadegh-and-amnesty-razmara-s-assassin

In the past few months, the fascist monarchists had increased their attacks on the pro-democracy forces here and elsewhere. I think right NOW is the best time to attack them back. In the past year, there was much protests on the streets and it was unwise to respond to the lies and attacks by the monarchists. The number one enemy is the fundamentalist terrorist regime. It is possible that some of these monarchists might have been agent provocateurs who were pretending to be monarchists and attack JM in order to provoke us to retaliate and in the process take the target off the fundamentalist regime.

I ignored more than 90% of the attacks by the monarchists. And solely provided scholarly materials for the sake of informing the readers of the historical realities. Right now, there is lull in the streets. So, this is an excellent time to show the fascist monarchists that we can attack them back if we so desire. The fascist monarchists are bullies. If we remain quiet, they think that they have intimidated us into silence. They still are in the SAVAK mentality of bullying and insulting and attacking. They need to put in their place.

In the next year, there will be many other times when our wonderful people will be on the streets protesting against the terrorist regime. If an IRI agent provocateur pretending to be monarchist and attacking JM to divert attention, showed up in the middle of the street protests, the memory of this will be a great lesson for the monarchists of this site.

I basically consider the monarchists a nuisance. They are about 5% to 10% of the population. They continue to be terribly dictatorial. And they are unrepentant for the crimes they have committed against the Iranian people.

I hope this is helpful.

Masoud

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Oktaby,

This is what is contained on page 44 in Kinzer’s book:

"The Shah himself became enormously wealthy by extracting bribes from foreign businesses and extorting money from tribal leaders. He confiscated so much land that at the peak of his power, he was the country’s largest landowner.

‘Reza Shah eliminated all the thieves and bandits in Iran,’ one member of the British Parliament observed, ‘and made his countrymen realize that henceforth there would be only one thief in Iran.’"

Now go and READ the two chapters I included in this blog. And you will see that there is evidence that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran.

The point of this blog is that the Pahlavis LOOTED Iran.

The fundamentalist regime is worse than the Pahlavi dictatorship. And the Pahlavis were directly responsible for the revolution. One factor was that they LOOTED Iran.

MK

JavoonDirooz,

Thank you for the anecdotal evidence you mentioned.

Masoud

4 Billion Swiss Francs Accounts in Swiss Banks by Pahlavi Family

Thanks to our dear Dariush Kadivar, this news footage from 1979 states that in Swiss banks ALONE, the Pahlavi family held accounts "at least 4 BILLION Swiss Francs" which is about 1 BILLION British POUND (according to the reporter at the exchange rate in 1979). In addition the Pahlavis own "several villas" there.

Go to 1:12 for the statement

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl7jY3xywM4&feature=player_embedded

in today's exchange rates which 1 Swiss franc is almost 1 US dollar, the Pahlavi family had about 4 BILLION US dollars in their accounts in Swiss banks.

 //www.advfn.com/currency-converter/us-dollar-to-swiss-franc.html

Monarchists need to take their collective head out of the sand

Denying financial corruption and cronism during Pahlavi regime is laughable and gives fuel to the notion that if Monarchy ever returns to Iran , it woyuld be the same aash and same bowel. My maternal grandfather was a notary public ( Sar Daftar) in Mazandran during Reza Shah's time and he had stories of the groups of local farmers who were forced to come to the Mahzar and sign a quit claim for their property in favor of Reza Pahlavi. The official reason by the regime was that "it is not is the best interest of the State to have major landlords in the North. My father had a short term stint in he Royal Investigation Organization (Sazman Bazrassi-e Shahanshahi) and he had stories about the corruption traced to Ashraf in a minor rail project. The corruption was based on a lack of accountability and lack of a system of checks and balances as a result of Iran's constitution which stated Shahh is not responsible for anything and reports to no one.  This corruption was in everyone's mind when they pored to the streets in '77 and '78. By denying this fact , monarchists show that they have not learned anything yet.

DK - your referrence of Chelsea's weding expense is rediculous. Clinton's can and will make a fortune by the way of speeches and being board member of major companiies AFTER office.  Actually , Gerald Ford was more successful that all others in amassing a fortune after presidency. But this had nothing to do with outright plundering Iran, and you know it.

aynak et al, The fallacy

is with the content of this blog, and your suggestion that one has to refute what is essentially a slander & non-research. Unlike you who are obviously anti Shah & Pahlavi, I'm not pro Shah. Indeed you are doing exactly what you suggest others do and then call it logic. Respond to what? there are no facts of any value in this blog nor you have contributed any.

You and author among others, are not interested in facts but proving your point based on emotion & belief, and unwilling to do footwork. Copy/pasting links from sources with questionable credibility & intent, or a book that is not worth the paper it is written on, all out of context, and about 31 to 80+ years ago events while Iran is getting raped by IRR begs the question about your integrity..

Now some facts:

-If you bothered to read A.T. Shah's men by SK (never mind author's credibility) there is no material evidence or even accusation on Shah and finances. There is some info on what Mossadegh 'accomplished' during his short tenure as PM. I have discussed that on several blogs. The Reza Shah stuff has been argued in various blogs without cheesy 'research'.

-Robert Graham was and remains a highly questionable British "journalist" for Fianancial Times Bureau (75-77); of dubious and suspicious background at best and you would need to search endlessly to find any useful info on who the heck he is to begin with. Now using his garbage book as a reference destroys any author's credibility. His book was written post his assignment in Iran and void of any material substance or documentation and the only notoriety it ever got was its banning at time of Shah because it was truly slanderous. Of course, it is still used despite it being 'garbage', not by my assertion but many in the biz including J. Green, Professor of Political science at University of Michigan.

-That whatever Shah took was negligible compared to Mollah's is a material fact. As is the standing of Iran in the world on many levels, or its clear claim on its sovereignty and Iranian-ness. That Iran's military might was acknowledged by all and ……. Was there corruption? you bet your last dollar but that is Iran and Middle East. For that matter U.S. and Switzerland and France.

-But Iran was not a cluster F#$@ and cancer IRR is today, nor was it any more corrupt than most and possibly cleanest in the region. It was a technocratic & competent (by standards of time/place then) government. Were there problems? you bet any money you have left. But noting that compared to the disaster IR has created including risk to Iran's territorial integrity, by any stretch of imagination.

-Now you hate the Pahlavi's, then that's fine. To each his own. But lets not pretend we are using research, logic or even common sense; let alone fairness and balance, both in historic terms, and in a relative sense. 155000+ (not including Iraq war or events since last year) is an order of magnitude larger than numbers assigned as killed by Shah (not including the heat of 79).

Do you understand the value of research? or proportion and fairness? 

OKtaby

BOLOGNY

Million tooman per ton? kiloyi 1000 tooman=$ 135.00 (+ _) why the exaggeratin?

even today (2010) in U.SofA I cannot sell that for $5.00 per lbs.    Maziar

Why now?

Why do some of us feel it is necessary to attack the Pahlavis at these crucial moments of our history?
I'd rather be ignored than be answered by slogans, and rhetoric. 

Every Day We Get A Little Bit Closer!

false reasoning in rebuttal

//iranian.com/main/blog/aynak/logic-101-l...

From the above:

In the looting by Pahlavi family, the subject is very clear:   The
poster is providing sources for what he suggests are proof for
Pahlavi's mis-appropriation of funds.    Whoever wants to respond to
this post in a logical way (and not introduce a fallacy) would have to
focus on:

--The content of the post, and reject/dispute it on that basis.(i.e the source is invalid, inconclusive etc).

.....

Instead, here are the list of the responses:

1-Mollahs have stolen 100 times more  (the authore never claimed Mollah's stole any less, so that forms a red-herring)

The same way if I say X killed 5 people, does not mean Hitler did not kill millions does it?

2-Pahlavi's did not loot because they did so much for the country (Even if they did serve the country, it is not addressing the question raised)

3- Attacking the poster  (this one is real popular, instead of
replying to content, attack Jebhe Melli, its supporters, intellectuals
...

The responders may do this knowingly or unknowingly.   In the former
case it is a type of malacious mis-information to divert from the
topic or worse bully the poster to stop writing on subject he/she does not approve.   In the case of latter, it may be just a frustration of  a
reader who supports a person or a concept without the proper backing
and has to use the above fallacies.

......

To "EVERYBODY LOVES SOMEBODY"

You want proof and reliable numbers I'll give you some......  For more than a decade (Between 1345 & 1357) anytime a shipment of steel beams arrived in Banddar Abbas and before clearance through customs, importer(s)  had to pay, how shall I phrase this..... a ransom to none other than Shahram , elder son of that filth Ashraf.  Going rate on those days was 10,000,000 Rials per ton.  With average consignment weighing in excess of 10,000 tons....You do the math genious!   Hopefully this will shed some light for imbeciles like you as to where Pahlavis and their cohorts got all their ill gotten wealth!  Need I say more!  

Kazemzadeh: so many loser professors like him

all these stupid lefty professors like him. go investigate your boy hashemi.

USA colleges are full of these fools. afrabasi, the guy at princeton, dabshi.  all fools that are not sorry about supporting khomenei.

Jamesh kon boro

For thirty years all the enemy's of shah of Iran had everything in their power to dig this and find out  and yet they could not find zilch.Eeven IRI with it's massive propoganda machine could not even fudge some phony numbers to make these isalmists feel happy.

So what ever pahlavi's took, noosh jooneshan! I am gald they didn't give a dime to mr. MK and folks like him. One thing is for sure, the amount they took is tiny in comaprison what mullah's and aghazadeh's have taken for the past thirty years.

FYI/IRI Embassy in London To Cost Tens of Millions of Pounds

Thank God Prince Charles Is Stopping You Republicans from Looting Our countrymen and countrywomen's Money to build YOUR Republic's Costly and Useless Embassies !

Prince Charles called on to block modern Iranian embassy next to historic church (Telegraph)

Bet Omid Djalili Tipped him on YOUR Republican Looters:

ROYAL CURTSY: Omid Djalili Shares a Joke with Prince Charles (LONDON - JULY 06, 2009)

DOWN WITH THE REPUBLIC !

And

LONG LIVE THE PRINCE !

THE PRINCE OF PERSIA That Is :

pictory: Prince Charles and Prince Reza (1974)

Hee Hee !

Dear Masoud! Thanks again for ENLIGHTENING us!

Reza Khan was born in a very poor family…he himself, a very capable man, started as a stable boy!   When he left Iran he had amassed so much wealth that he was considered the RICHEST person in Iran.   All that wealth had been obtained either by force confiscation or just stealing, like his son.   No one could do any kind of business, unless Pahlavis got their KICK BACK first.   Reminds one of organized crime figures like Al Capone or Lucky Luciano’s of this world!

Unfortunately, there are some minds that you can’t change, no matter what.   They are no different than the FENATICAL Mullahs they criticize, an ideology obsolete and frozen in time!

PS:  As usual GREAT post…. highly informative!   Keep up the good work!

Mr. MK, the reason nobody

(except a couple of Hezbollah hooligans) takes you seriously around here is that you never produce any reliable and authenticated data.

Very much like your arguments in support of the incompetent and ineffective Jebhe Meli ilk, you try to use willy nilly and rinky dinky unsubstantiated info to convince us that the Pahlavi's transferred funds out of Iran. Where are the banking transaction notes, statements, papers, and documents? Besides, how do you know these funds weren't their legitimate assets? Mr. MK shame on you for your unethical , immoral, and unscientific approach in analyzing important events of history.

Mr. MK every Ph.D. graduate on the day of their graduation has to raise their right hand to take an oath on the application and usage of the degree bestowed upon them with the utmost sense of integrity, ethics, and scientific process. At least, that's what we had to go through on that day!

Where were your hands during your graduation day, Sir?

Thank you

who cares.....

nooshe jooneshoon!!! I remember that iran had peace, security, and the respect of most of the world.....

why don't you 'research' the hundreds of billions the akhoonds have stashed away in swiss and other far off accounts!!!!???? 

or the trillions wasted on arab terrorists and felestini thugs.....the same baboons who are sent and paid to come in and beat and rape our people...

DID IRAN AIR EVERY CRASH WHEN THE SHAH WAS IN POWER???! NO

WITHOUT THE ADVANCED WEAPONS FROM THE US WOULD IRAN BEEN ABLE HOLD OF THE ARABS??? NO

DID WE HAVE TO BUY OUR GASOLINE FROM OUTSIDE???NO

 these are all facts from 35 years ago!!! imagine what iran would have been like today had the akhoonds not ruined out beautiful iran!!! 

whatever the shah and his family took, which I know is minimal, is nothing compared the plunder of the mullahs 

..

I'd read this tales in one of (DRYFUSSE?) BOOK  during one hot summer day late shah of Iran was at a sidewalk cafe on via veneto next to American Embassy in Rome with.....the Italian minister of Energy Drinking a bottled water and Surprisingly ASKED the : why should we pay $ 5.00 for a .75ml of bottled water ?

And then sell a barrel (20 liters) of oil for the same price?  

Please lets pray that Iranian will not face another war HEATED by the mollahs.   Maziar

When In Potomac, do As Potomacards Do: File Your Taxes!

Not surprisingly are we making it so Persianly(?) more difficult than it's necessary to be.

All we have to demand, collectively, is Reza Pahlavi's disclosure of his annual  tax returns. That's all. Someone should remind him that in the US of A those who seek public office disclose their financial affairs.

The difficult part is their offshore holdings, of course. We'll get to that in a timely fashion. Don't worry.

Every Day We Get A Little Bit Closer!

Follow the money

Anywhere in the world, money leaves a trail, and it is not difficult to trace it, and find if the money is taken improperly. Privacy rights and defense lawyers could make it a little more difficult, but it is done every day, everywhere.

Why can't they do that with the Pahlavi's? The money trail starts is Iran, and allegedly, ends in some Bank in Switzerland , or somewhere in the West. There is no shortage of resources and manpower on the Iranian government's side to come up with relevant documents.

You present the evidence in an International court, and if the case is proven, the assets will be ordered frozen, and then returned.

Also, publish them, once and for all, so we know if we were looted or not.

Otherwise, it is just name calling.

I, for one, need more to be convinced.

Someone should now explain to me who Looted the Jebhe melli's

Brain Power ...

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The Revolution that Ate it's Children ...

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: Amir Abbas Entezam Chained to Hospital Bed (1990's)

Farrokhzad Was Right about Your Likes ... Hanooz Keh Hanoozeh HICHI Nafahmeedeed :

Fereydoun Farrokhzad - Irani Boodan :

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Fortunately the Young Generation is Far More Lucid and patriotic than You people who sold Your Soul to the Enemies of Iranzamin just like those who stabbed Darius III in the back to deliver the Empire to the Hords of Alexander :

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Khejalat Ham Khoub Cheezyeh !

FYI/pictory: Shah's Fortune demanded back by Revolutionaries

pictory: Shah's Fortune demanded back by Iran's Revolutionary Government (1979) ... (video)

Recommended Readings:

Fortune of Shah's former wife Princess Soraya goes to German state ( Daily Telgraph 6 April 2003)

Millionaire Mullahs: Rafsanjani and Co  by Paul Klebnikov, Forbes Magazine

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have some perspective

The Pahlavi family at best has a modest life.  The implication that they looted Iran is simply ludicrous.  Looting would be if they went and grabbed the crown jewels on their way out.  Or hitting the central bank and leaving with lots of cash.  When the Shah left Iran for Aswan, Egypt he actually had the plane sent back and chartered flights from then on.  Is that something a thief would do?  He sent back the plane (Shahin) back to Iran because he said it belonged to the Iranian people.  The dollar amount of the Pahlavi wealth is a lot less than your paranoia would have you believe.  Even when they were Iran their life was modest compared what other heads of state live like.  His opponents did an excellent PR campaign demonizing him.  But what an injustice.  The Pahlavi family took Iran from a place like present day Afghanistan (Tehran did not have even have an adequate water supply system till the 1950s) and look where it was in 1978.  Have some modicum of perspective before you regurgitate the garbage Jebhe Melli, Tudeh, MKO, and Islamists have been spewing for the last 50 years.  Rabble rousers like Mosaddegh, pseudo-intellectuals like Golesorkhi, cultist marxists like Rajavi and Imams like Khomeini all had one thing in common.  How clueless and ungrateful they were for one, and how they led a blind horde of cattle to one the biggest disasters of the 20th century.