Der Ewige Jude

Sorry DW

but you won't find out, even if you ask. ;-)

Zion

DW you have a point

You are a reasonable guy, and I feel I can respect you even if we disagree.

Please... are you serious with this?

I don't see her saying she is a victim of the Holocaust so much as she is saying some of the abuse going back and forth in this forum is similar to the abuse going back and forth during the Holocaust.

Look, 1300 people were just bombed to death. If I were to make a Holocaust comparison like above, you want to guess WHO will jump down my throat and cry abuse and "unfair comparison"? Zion. Now we have a "situation" where one person has (oh horrors!) been seemingly disciplined by being forced to use a different name on a website!!! And that person is pulling crap like Holocaust to say "abuses are similar" ???

PLEASE!

Consider two things. First, this is physically the same person. She has already addressed as both personalities here:
//iranian.com/main/news/2009/02/05/un-idf...

Second, in the past Zion has changed her tone, when it suits the siutation. Even earlier today as her "Zion" personality, I saw for the first time something that I thought would never happen: she apologized!!! It's here:
//iranian.com/main/blog/foaad-khosmood/se...

HowerEVER, this has always been for political expediency and not genuine. In the above case, the person she was apologizing to works for the website. She had made much much worse unwarranted accusations against myself and others with no evidence whatsoever, and has never even thought of apologizing.(There was a big discussion on this last year).

This whole episode may have something to do wit the fact that she admitted recently that she's just here to make Israel look good. That's like an official censor from Iranians ministry of intelligence. Whatever anyone writes about Israel, there will be a "official clarification" right after it. Everyone is here from a shared background with many overlapping concerns talking about their lives, their dreams and their views. One person is here for the sole purpose of propagadizeing for a government.

I do not fault the site owners for rightfully concluding that they don't need THAT.

But I get the gist of what you are saying. If THAT's not what she is, I am willing to give her a chance as you put it. If this "change" is a personal metamorphasis or if it is forced out of pure necessity, it COULD be positive, if genuine. So, I'm willing to go this far and say that I, for whatever it's worth, will not judge this peronality by the standards of the previous one has rightfully earned. I'm not holding my breath that this will be that different though.

Respect is not free, it must be earned.

Souri

I become firm when people deserve it.  That means that when I see people blatantly lie and slander others in forums or engage in abusive comments, yes I respond appropriately.  But I am a person of honesty and integrity.  If you are honest with me, and don't try to take advantage of me, or play childish games like some people have done in this forum, I will treat you as a brother or a sister.  But the flip side of it is that if a person lies to me and makes false representations about events in the world I will expose the truth even if it means he or she might be embarrassed.  If you are honest you have nothing to fear. :) 

You have not said anything that causes me to doubt your integrity and I have no intention of speaking firmly with you. 

Souri & Q

I understand your reference to extremism but i am going to be honest, I have seen ethnocentrism and bigotry in this forum unlike anything I have seen in thirty years.  To be honest I was amazed and shocked at some of the posts I have seen here and I have only joined this forum about 6 weeks ago.  I haven't seen the kinds of comments I have seen here since I was a child.  Frankly I am dumbfounded because I had no idea that this kind of bigotry and hatred existed anywhere except perhaps in the Middle East or deep South Africa.  But I have to say I remember what I saw years ago.  Those racist comments were generated by lack of knowledge or more bluntly ignorance.   

Q.  A friend of mine sent me an email and said do you know who Zion really is.  I said "no."  He said,

 //profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=137763139

I said "you are on drugs."  He said, "maybe but the only way you will find out is to ask."  LOL

Dear Javad

Of course I couldn't bear to be separated from you! Especially after tasting the wonderful and legendary hospitality of your people all over this site. Did you have any doubts about that? You break my heart.

Just pray tell, in your vivid imagination, just what circumstance will there be where I will have to step all over everybody else? I think my dear, you are taking this site and our leisure time entertainment here too seriously. Oh, and I will watch my tongue the same amount that your buddies do. Deal?

And you can keep calling my Zion by the way.

Zion

Daavat beh moshajjereh

 is here..loooooooooooooooooooool

former samsam1111

Dw Duke with all due respect

I don't want to be impolite to you by ignoring your question, but don't want to be engaged in a conversation with you neither. I'd noticed that you have used fool language in those other thread and insulted people. Sorry, but I can't take the risk with that. Hope you will understand.

Boro Baba

And how, exactly, has her tone changed, pray tell?!!  She is still playing the "poor me, you are all antisemites" tune, while showing her passive agressive character again.

I see the same tone and the same person.  This one, too, I shall ignore, as I will her cohorts who already showed up to show their support.  You all will live and learn that when she has to, she will step all over you and treat you like a worthless piece of sh**, as is her style (an oxymoron).

Tsion, I guess with all your "devil may care about Iranians" attitude, you couldn't bear to be separated from us!  I sincerely hope that this is because you are fascinated and smitten with Iranians, the nicest people in the world who persevere and persist, despite all the troublemakers in the world!

I only came by to say now watch your tongue and at least keep up the appearances!

A couple of points

DW,
I chose a variant because the other one is blocked. Here I have added it as my signature. And please, I don't need your patronizing. Give it a rest.
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Q dear, what is it you want to know? I had a comment in the other thread with a Monty Python link where I used a curse word [The exact same word is actually among the ones you just used here about me interestingly enough:
//iranian.com/main/news/2009/02/05/un-idf...
that is why your proud comment there made me so happy ;)], it was deleted. I posted the Monty Python link again without that curse word. It was deleted again. So I used the same curse word addressed at the person I assume was the moderator. That is it. Evidently I had already git two emails of warning because of the previous two comments (I hardly check that email account-only checked it afterwards). Clearly the message is, certain people here are off limits to the slightest address.

Does that satisfy your curiosity? Anything else you think you really need to know? :-)

Zion

JJ

Why is it you let your friend Q call us delusional and propagandist but I cant call him pathetic and get deleted...your double rules are back again? ha 

former samsam1111

In due time

Zion and family will have to make use of thier dual citizenship and go back to thier real home.

meanwhile, they can stew in own juices with fear of what the future will bring. 

And thank God I'm only watching the game

Q jaan

Regarding the question : Why JJ continue to protect Zion/Samsam and even feature their blogs.......

IMHO, as I am not JJ, but can use my common sense to believe that JJ tries to be impartial.

I often hear Samsam saying that his posts are never featured. Although I'd noticed that they have been featured a few times, but less than some other's really irrelevant and meaningless blogs.

Even now, a group of Zion & Co are always complaining about being deleted all the time and so on.

Impartiality is not a given talent! It is a very hard task to handle. I can imagine how hard it is for the big boss. 

But we should know that people like Zion exist in the world. Her ideas are many people's ideas. So we have to hear them to be able to confront them. Of course when they go overboard, they get what they deserve.

Reply to Souri and Q

I am not sure what Tsion is doing but I noted a different tone than I am used to hearing.  Souri, I don't follow your first comment on this thread, could you elaborate. 

For those who consider Tsion to be a sinister version of Zion, I would respectfully recommend that everyone consider wiping the slate clean and listen anew.  I know that Zion is not a religious Jew but there is a tradition in Judaism that when a person sees something anew, he/she receives a new name.  For example, Avram became Avraham.  Jacob became Israel.  I would say give her a chance to say what is on her mind. 

Q, I am not sure which post you are referring to as disingenous but I would say let's give her a chance to say what is on her mind.  As for her reference to the Holocaust, I don't see her saying she is a victim of the Holocaust so much as she is saying some of the abuse going back and forth in this forum is similar to the abuse going back and forth during the Holocaust.  I could spend hours addressing that issue and I could show numerous examples of what I have seen on that score but that won't get us anywhere.  What I am saying is that personally, I am interested in hearing what Tsion has to say.  She started a new thread with a new name.  Maybe she has something new.  Isn't that what she was asked to consider by other Jews in this forum?

Souri,

maybe you're right, but I don't know Javid all that well.

Zion is completely delusional, so I can't accept anything she says as fact. However, if Javid had such a serious problem with her, why did he continue to protect her blatent propagandas? Even featuring all her blogs and news???

Same with Samsam!

Is Javid a moody guy?

Dear Q

I, in the contrary can imagine what could happened behind the close doors. I can imagine, she might got some warning before and then she got her user blocked.

She can come back of course, it is a free world. But first she has to be more vigilant (that I see she's already adhered to, because she is getting a more polite and moderate tone now) and also she knows that: same road always lead to the same destination!!

So, there's always an evolution in every renaissance. I'm an Aquarius !! 

Let hope for the more peaceful IC from now on.

Souri Jan,

Unfortunately, Zion/Tsion has once-again decided to meladramatically elevate herself to the status of a Holocaust victim, and is now using sarcasm to try to go over JJ's "bad language" mental filter. This as disingenuous, selfish and nasty a piece of writing as any I have read from Zion.

I don't know what the truth is at this point and I'm curious as to what happened.

I'm not really concerned about any propagandists' "rights" to be given a free froum to make his/her job easier. I am concerned what specifically triggered this, since Zion has been tolerated for such a long time. I also wonder what kind of "solution" this is if she just ZERTI comes back and uses a different account.

Thanks Sam

Greatly appreciated. Nice to see your original avatar back. Way to go!

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(but I just can't let go of Q here, can I?)
Q you are actually worried! That's so touching! Of course you'd miss me. ;-)

Well , all I can say

This is pretty comicaly sad but yet expected.

Seems it,s becoming a routin but only for the minority & few patriots .

My advice to you is dont talk to anyone but Patriots . talking to others but patriots will give excuse to be blocked again. Even if they insult you or delete you, let em be . Just say your piece and write your blog and mind your own bussines .

I,m with you pal , since you have been on the side of true Iran!!!

Cheers & keep well Zion

 former samsam1111

So it seems AI.

Amusing.

What games are you playing now?

Didn't you just write (your usual attack) comment a few hours ago?

I certainly wouldn't miss you if you've been kicked out for whatever reason. But given how much anti-Israeli sentiment you generate, I can't help but be a little disappointed. Still seems stupid to let you back in under a different name.

But sorry I can't believe anything you say. (or cleverly DON'T say).

I just noticed

That my comments re conflict of interest on moderating and blogging in the same blog in the Moderation thread was also erased. Oh well, I guess we hit a nurve.

Dear Sam

Yep. That's me. Members of the same club, it seems. It's a good one. Happy to be here.

It's funny, evidently my previous avatar is not only blocked but is being evaporated. All my comments on the other thread on moderation are already gone! The big brother, although this one is not so big and ain't no brother! ;-)

Cheers pal.

Excuse me

Who were you before ?

Were you DW DUKE, Rosie or,Zion ?

I know Zion is not as polite as you seem to be, and Rosie doesn't address me, so are you (I mean were you) DW DUKE?

Zion , is that you pal?

Were you blocked?

SamSam

Thanks Yachov

But it was never directed to you. Those for whom it was meant will evidently never get the point.

Still thanks for your comment. I appreciate it.

Reply to Tsion

Point well taken.

Yes Souri

Someone said it, but don't ask me to name names. I have already been blocked for committing those kind of sins.

Anyways, you are right. That is why I posted this video. You know to balance out that whining part. If you watch it closely, you'll see they actually mention that part too. Not about the Holocaust, but previous pogroms and other "whining excuses".

I did it in a good gesture. ;-) You know, to be forgiven and allowed to be back! lol.

does someone said this before ?

I am sick of the Jews whining about the Holocaust.

No? 

then I say it now.