Was Rosie

Dear VPK, I agree with your last comment

Dear VPK, yes, I agree with what you have written in your last comment including where you noted:"They are not mean because we are Iranian. They are mean because they are people like others meanies. "

Anahid

Of course there are sick mean Iranians out there like anyone else. However we are not worse than anyone. In fact all you have to do it watch Fox news to see how many sick mean Americans are there. Not to mention the AM radio. 

This does not excuse any sick behavior. It does explain that is it a human character. Not in any way unique to Iranians. They are not mean because we are Iranian. They are mean because they are people like others meanies.

VPK, yes, there are some sick and mean Iranians

Dear VPK, are you trying to tell me that you can not find mean Iranians?  Every country has mean people and Iran is not any different.  If anything, Iran has many mean and sick people who approve of rape, kiling and jailing of people.  We can not just talk about our good people.  We have to acknowledge that there are some terrible ones too.

Mean?

Anahid jan I have had many dealings with other Iranians in the US and in Iran. Mean is not a word I would use toe describe them. I have basically got treated with respect and honesty. Not once did I get burned or cheated. I buy books from Iran all the time. They get here safe and as promissed.

I am in touch with all kinds of people and they are all nice.

You must have had a bad experience. But seriously I have not had any problems.

We should not fall to self loathing specially since we are not a bad people.

Wow, Rosie, I loved your poem

Dear Rosie, I like your poem.  When few days ago a user from IC or someone impersonating him harrassed me online, I was thinking of what has happened to many Iranians in past few decades.  Some might act mean because of what  happened to them and then some are just mean.  I was thinking of writing a poem and I might still do this but then meanwhile, I read your poem which I liked. 

Rosie jan,as you write in your poem: 

and the final 

conflagration

must burn in you

and the forest must succumb

to the flames

and the Light

must triumph

over dark

it is foretold

new growth emergimg

far richer than ever imagined

Nation

NATION

profile.">By Rosie T.
09-Jun-2008

you are tearing

you are tearing

you are torn in two

like your nation

your beautiful nation

you are torn asunder

there are two of you

and it wounds you

so you wound others

to heal those wounds

but the battle

that rages

must be fought in you

because you

only you 

can heal your nation's wounds 

your beautiful wounded nation

is waitng for you 

nation of  Haafez

of Forough  

nation of nightengale and rose

of koroush

bahaullah

of al-quarezmi 

and mossadegh

shirin ebaadi

kiarostaami

nation of you

your beautiful bleeding  nation

is waiting for beautiful you

and the final 

conflagration

must burn in you

and the forest must succumb

to the flames

and the Light

must triumph

over dark

it is foretold

new growth emergimg

far richer than ever imagined

trees of Faith

trees of Strength

trees of sacred Truth

of branches

reaching out

embracing the world with Light

and the time

it is now

and has always been now

it is here right here

this is your time Iraan

Everything is Sacred

the Sacred is You

Jaavid Iraan

I will never lose Faith in You.

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Louie*2

Please don't try to import mullah's like censorship here OK? If you don't like a comment, or a blog, or a person just don't read it. That's as simple as that, capisce?

Dear The Moderator REWORKED /(LL)

Dear The Rahbar, I mean Moderator, So why haven't you fixed that video still yet so people don't have to look at that weird kid's potbelly anymore?  Well, actually, now that I think about it, it's kinda starting to grow on me.

But seriously. You know how complex the reasons are for why I left last summer, why I came back unexpetedly and why I won't be able to stay or return for at leeeeast the foreseeable future, as do many others. They were made fairly public. I just wanted to make sure you understand that the reason I chose to do all this school marmish stuff here since I've been here was because I just felt it was the best way I could contribute something concrete. 

Ultimately on a very basic level, you and the site are synonymous. In terms of how it runs, anyway. I can't possibly speak of these issues without speaking of you and I hope you undertand. I'm not stepping on your toes. I mean..after all, who could, Twinkletoes? lol

When we all, our close little group, started building the community together out of NOTHINGat the beginnings, there was such a collaboration between the users and admin on everything. I worry that that spirit grows less and less. I wish it could work more like a collective the way we used to, in terms of moderaton policies and so on. I feel like something went wrong on both ends.

Well anyway, that's my hope.Hope your voyage is everything it can be.

___________________

(LL, can't you read? I told you, I'm through with you here. I just saw you wrote a post with my name as title. I didn't read it. And I'm not going to. Now you go about your business like a good little buffoon entertaining people, but don't think I'll know what you're saying. I won't).

____________________

I shall be taking a break nnw.

Rosie

You really should not have bothered with writing this blog, you could have gone to your supporters blogs with "ruhe shaeraneh". Write there, do the bombardment, write about anything; me, weather, Israel, Palestine, Obama, Bush, bad hair days .......

Apparently they love it when you spam a lot.

"THOSE WHO ACCUSE JJ OF MALICIOUS INTENT"

I'm reposting my post to Ben from below because it's the most important thing on this thread, to make sure it's seen.

____________________________________

Ben, you wrote that {those who accuse JJ of malicious intent] paraphrasing, if I understood correctly, what I said about Louie Louie.
But the problem is AS A GROUP, as a PHENOMENON, people really aren't
accusing Jahanshah of malicious intent. It's paranoia pure and simple.
It's something they're not in control of, they're almost not responsible
for it.

There's just a whole lot of paranoia going both ways--the
'Lefties' so-called and the...what...Righties???? always accusing each
other of god knows what, individually or as groups. It's because of the
recent history. As you know. And also something about the Iranian
character-which I understand because we Ashkenazi Jews have it too--a
tendency in many people toward paranoia due to our long-term histories.
It's kind of ingrained in many people.

In the beginning, back in '07 and early '08, Jahanshah was constantly accused
equally of being an IRI and a Zionist agent. AND SO WAS I, btw. As
things developed it became all about IRI with j. It stopped with me. But
j.,, other people, everyone's an agent for someone. Anyone who's a
Reformist, even a secular Reformist, is a rabid Mullah in disguise.
(Conversely others are still Zionist agents or whatever...).

This paranoia does more to damage this site than any other single
thing. It's poison. It kills everything it touches. It has to
stop. Its worst manifestation is this 'paid Lefty cabal' for this den of
Khomeinists--it's not a personal accusion of the publisher's inegrity,
it's...like a way of life for these people.

I've always gotten along very well with people from this Left so-called
and this Right so-called, and I know them, and I know the publisher I
know these people well and I see what they do to each other. THIS IS
DELUSION. IT HAS TO STOP.

________________________

Now,and as an afterthought, Ben, what am I supposed to do, Ben? Hold
my tongue? Say this meekly? Apologize for saying it because you feel I
don't understand Iranians or this website or what they 'need'? When I
see this carnage every day between good people? Friends of mine accusing
other friends of mine of insane, disgusting, poisonous things? I should
shut up, not say these things on threads because I don't understand
them? Because I'm not Iranian?.

NONE OF THIS NONSENSE IS TRUE AND IT HAS TO STOP.

Louie*2, with thick beards on the chin

Beurk!! I always avoided to eat chicken because of tons of hormones they are feed and which make beards out of your chin.

Ba ba, Louie*2, watch out. If you continue to eat crap, you'll not be pretty at the end, i.e. an ugly vampire.

Oh, the Prophet.

Dear Veiled Prophet of Khorasan,

On STICK IT UP THE A-S you said you (y'all) don't need a referee. Now, I only had contact with you on one single thread before this, which was the Israel/Iran one from the pictory. Could you please tell me if that was when you first got the idea that I thought I was a referee, because that's what I suspect. 

And also, beyond that thread, before you hopped onto this one where Louie Louie and Tell It Like You Dream It Is were already criticizing my school marm vampire behavior, did you see any other places where I was refereeing and if so where? Links would be helpful.

Returning to the thread at hand, Prophet, STICK IT UP THE A-S, as I said below, I'm conjecturing Ben thought I was whistle blowing (I guess that's similar to 'refereeing', they have whistles too..), your little buddy here Louie Louie and Marge? Do you feel the same way?

And finally Veiled Propeht of Khorosan, is there ANYTHING ANYWHERE on this thread that you think ISN'T trivial and amusing?

I love chicken, I love liver, Meow Mix, Meow Mix please deliver

I'm genetically modified. I really want to thank Rosie, she really made my day; I haven't laughed this hard for so long. She pee pees on me, writes a blog about me, and expects me to say nothing, not fair!

Dear TellItLikeItIs (also from UP THE A-S)

You wrote the post below addressing Ben's second post to me on Up the A-s. There are other posts you wrote to me on the other blog,, one of which you changed the content of. But let's stick with this one for now.

Dear Tell It Like You Want It To Be, Could you please clarify for me and for the readership, when you say "It is a very Iranian issue and can
only be resolved by Iranians.", as clearly as possible, in your OWN words (not Ben's) what exactly this 'issue' is that is 'very Iranian' and also, what concrete suggestions you have for how it will be resolved by Iranians? Please feel free to take as much time as possible if you have to think about it. Even days. This is a crucially important issue for the site.

And also, dear Tell It Like You Wish It Was, in your vast experience of seven and a half weeks on this site when you wrote this post, having written one blog when you registered, and posted on sixteen threads, meaning an average of two a week, many on blogs about things like Forough and Jahanshah's more playful blogs, in what ways have you seen this issue progressing in being resolved by Iranians? And also, in your vast posting experience, what have you specifically done to further this progress?

I eagerly await your detailed reply, Dear Tell It to the Rain.

_______________________________________________________________

Benross

by user profile.">TellitLikeitis on Sun Apr 25,
2010 06:14 PM PDT

Thank you. You put it perfectly "It is a very Iranian issue and can
only be resolved by Iranians."

Shazdeh I am suprised by your actions. By flagging peoples' very valid
and long overdue complaints you are doing exactly what you accuse JJ of
(and rightfully so in my opinion by the way).

louis loius

So that was you who broke in my kitchen! Darn and ate all my garlic chicken. What kind of vampire are you anyway? I thought vampires don't like garlic :-)

Ben /(LL)

(Louie, Louie, I'm done with you. If you wanna keep piddling your pee pee all over this thread, go right ahead. It speaks for itself. I have said every single thng I have to say about you or to you here).

______________________________________

Okay, back to BEN. Someone who has important things to contribute to the site.

Ben, below is the post you wrote to me after the first one where you said I wasn't going anywhere with my 'line of thought' when I asked you for clarification. I have a few questions.

1). Way down at the beginning of Shazde's 'Anti-Imperialists' thread a good bit before I got there,you wrote him a short post and your title was 'Shazde, glad to see you back'. Do you remember how you knew he was 'gone' when it was only one day? Do you remember how you found out, and if you do, could you tell me, please?

2) You say I'm 'blowing the whistle left and right'. Obviously this made reference to the post which was directly below you at the time, which was my response to Louie Louie's little comment-which for some reason you found appropriate even though he obviously wrote it in Persian so I wouldn't understand it. (Think about that for a moment, please). 

Ben,, if I'm doing this terrible thing by 'blowing the whistle' on Louie, Louie, then why did you first say that people who show 'malicious intent toward JJ' are not tolerated, when (as I understood it), you got that from my post on Louie Louie? Please explain.

3) Looking through that thread, the only person I can imagine you're saying I'm 'blowing the whistle' on would be Marge. Am I correct in thinking that you meant Marge? Please let me know.

4) Ben, this 'left and right' business implies a whole lot of people. Could you please tell me which ones, other than Marge and Louie Louie you feel I've blown this whistle of mine on? Names alone will do, unless you feel you'd like to mention contexts. In which case it might be helpful to the readers if you would please provide links.

5) Please answer the above three questions as carefully and clearly as I have posed them and my other replies to you on this thread.

Thanks, Ben.

____________________________________________

You are trying to play the role of a
referee in a game you don't quite understand its rules. Blowing the
whistle left and right. People here, for the most part, know what is a
respectful manner of writing. They know what would constitute offense
and insult and what not. If they are not always calm, it's because they
feel offended. They react. And the whole process has nothing to do with
the subject matter being discussed. It has to do with that inherently
unsettling situation that I described earlier. You don't understand the
underlying problem well enough, with all its historical and emotional
attributes that it carries, to be a capable referee and blowing the
whistle here and there.

You are not helping the crowd, but are furthermore distracting their
focus from discussing the substance.

It gets somehow irritating and then you yourself become a target for
the same reason. That's why I suggest you step aside in this matter. It
is a very Iranian issue and can only be resolved by Iranians.

Yes, I'm a sadist!

The other night I had lot of fun with this guy in S&M club.

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Louie, Louie

You were a vampire that night. You know what happened. You sucked real blood. You saw me going over the edge and you pushed...and you pushed...with a few others, but you started it. And you finished it. You were the worst..I won't say any more about this because I don't want to get deleted again, but look at you. You're still LAUGHING.

I didn't know you then. You came out of nowhere.

SO, SO WHAT IF I'M WRONG? SO SO WHAT IF YOU DID NOTHING AND YOU'RE NOT SADISTIC AND YOU'RE AN INNOCENT BABE IN ARMS? Well, then, that means I'm insane, does it not? And insanity is an illness. And then here I am 'babbling' about danger and heartbreak and trauma...so if what I'm saying ISN"T the truth about you...

then it is...

because by laughing about it, you'd be pushing an insane person further over the edge right now, wouldn't you be, Louie Louie?

Well, wouldn't you be?

That's what I mean by a sadist. 

_____________

If this is too complicated for you to understand, maybe someone else can explain it to you.

Sheesh. Wadda guy.

THOSE WHO ACCUSE JJ OF MALICIOUS INTENT

THIS IS IMPORTANT.

Ben, you wrote that, paraphrasing what I said about Louie Louie. But the problem is AS A GROUP, as a PHENOMENON, people really aren't accusing Jahanshah of malicious intent. It's paranoia pure and simple. It's something they're not in control of, they're almost not responsible for it.

There's just a whole lot of paranoia going both ways--the 'Lefties' so-called and the...what...Righties???? always accusing each other of god knows what, individually or as groups. It's because of the recent history. As you know. And also something about the Iranian character-which I understand because we Ashkenazi Jews have it too--a tendency in many people toward paranoia due to our long-term histories. It's kind of ingrained in many people.

In the beginning, back in '07 and early '08, Jahanshah was accused equally of being an IRI and a Zionist agent. AND SO WAS I, btw. As things developed it became all about IRI with j. It stopped with me. But j.,, other people, everyone's an agent for someone. Anyone who's a Reformist, even a secular Reformist, is a rabid Mullah in disguise. (Conversely others are still Zionist agents or whatever...).

This paranoia does more to damage this site than any other single thng. It's poison. It kills everything it touches. It has to stop. Its worst manifestation is this 'paid Lefty cabal' for this den of Khomeinists--it's not a personal accusion of the publisher's inegrity, it's...like a way of life for these people.

I've always gotten along very well with people from this Left so-called and this Right so-called, and I know them, and I know the publisher I know these people well and I see what they do to each other. THIS IS DELUSION. IT HAS TO STOP.

________________________

Now,and as an afterthought, Ben, what am I supposed to do, Ben? Hold my tongue? Say this meekly? Apologize for saying it because you feel I don't understand Iranians or this website or what they 'need'? When I see this carnage every day between good people? Friends of mine accusing other friends of mine of insane, disgusting, poisonous things? I should shut up, not say these things on threads because I don't understand them? Because I'm not Iranian?.

NONE OF THIS NONSENSE IS TRUE AND IT HAS TO STOP.

Trying to divide the opposition

to please IRI ain't the only repulsive iranian act.


Don't having nuts and speaking in a third language to make a wave of hatred against another person is also repulsive.


I'm against repulsiveness, and you boy, smell such at one km around.

Oh Lord, this is too rich :o)))))))

That's right Rosie, I'm a vampire! I appear in people's bedrooms at nights with an axe, take their skin off and make a funny hat then I dine on their liver with nice side dish of fava beans and bottle of chianti .... ftftftftftftftftft ......

And for Shaban, I have no idea why he is mad at me, I'm not Capt. Ayhab!

I understand what you're saying Shaban, and

ordinarily I'd totally agree. The problem is that something terrible happened last summer-I just spoke about it in my post below to Ben. Something so gruesome, with such serious consequences, that he incited and egged on, that it's really hard for me to ignore Louie Louie. This character knows that because of what happened, in no small part because of what he DID, that I had to leave here for months to basically recover from the experience-I know it sounds hard to believe-and it wound up hurting several other people too. Losing friendships, humiliating others and me in public. He found it all hilarious.

Unfortunately since Jahanshah deleted my original reply to Louie Louie on Shazde's thread,I'm afraid to go into it much here. I'm afraid I'll get deleted again. (j., you knew about this. You've always been unfair to me. Delete my reply to this individual, FINE. But delete his harrassment too). 

Shaban, underr normal circumstances, a person like Louie Louie saying that stupid thing below would be like a mosquito flying in my face. But with him it's different. A number of people here know what I'm talking about. He knows it damn well too.

But thanks so much for your comment..

Ben, (This is where the real discussion was going to begin

by profile.">benross on Sun Apr 25, 2010 04:11 PM
PDT

You are not going anywhere with that
line of thought, nor those who accuse JJ of malicious intent.

The structural problem with IC is that it is a tribune for the
opposition to IRI on one hand, and those who support it on the other
hand. It wouldn't have caused any friction if this open forum could be
run within IRAN, in a free IRAN. Which conceptually negates the
legitimacy of pro-IRI in this forum. It is always good idea to keep a
line of communication with pro IRI. Just allowing them to see and learn
and ask question if any. But when they start running the show... you
seem to be on the way Rosie. Move aside.

_______________________________________________________________

Ben,, you wrote this on top of my deleted reply to Louie Louie.My response to you was just that I don't quite understand what you meant. You explained, and I'll respond to that later.

But right now, Ben,I just want to say that it irks me that in your comment here you mention that people with malicious intent toward JJ aren't 'going anywhere, just like me with my 'line of thought''. The malicious intent you refer to is what I explained Louie Louie had said on Shazde's Moderaton blog (now deleted by him).

I explained that Louie Louie in that blog agreed with people who accused Jahanshah of having a possibly paid cabal of 'Lefties' moderating to target those further right with biased deletions. I said that that was a disgusting disrespect of the publisher who sacrifices his life for this site (and for this I get deleted, oh reeally, Jahanshah, c'mon...). So when you say people with malicious intent, you're referring to my characterization of Louie Louie, which you seem to accept.

I feel that you should've said that I'm not going anywhere with that line of thought, nor are people with malicious intent toward JJ OR WHO GLEEFULLY AND SADISTICALLY PARTICIPATE IN PUSHING A MEMBER INTO A SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS STATE THAT INFLICTS REAL PAIN ON SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS. Because that was what a lot of m post to Louie Louie was about. A very serious thing he did. My word for him was sociopath. The consequences of that night were dire. But for some reason that slipped your mind. I think if you didn't want to mention that part of what I said about Louie Louie, you shouldn't've mentioned the other part I said either.

***

That's all I wanted to say about this now, except that Louie Louie had claimed that all the deletons were made at night, as if by vampires. And I said Louie Louie, you're a bloodsucking vampire.

Was Rosie jan,

Don't worry about this "Louie Louie", he has to repeat twice his name to remember it, so you can imagine who high is his IQ? He, and his friend "Every body loves somebody" (except himself - who apparently has more hate than love in him) wanted to show that they are smart @ss by writing finglishi, that you won't understand, but they failed miserably. So don't bother yourself to answer them. We need some dalghak in this site, let them be!

To Louie Louie, From TAKE IT UP THE A-S

by profile.">Louie Louie on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:46
AM PDT

Ya besmelah, baz in bargasht hey bara
daro divar peigham pasgham mizareh!

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TO LOUIE, LOUIE: You wrote this comment on top of mine below, which I wrote to Marge at the bottom here. I wrote a long reply to you which I feel was fair and richly deserved. Unfortunately it was deleted. I did not agree with this deletion and wrote that to The Moderator. I didn't protest the deletion itself, bu deleting my post and leaving your obnoxious comment. I'm not going to summarize my reply because its important points will be broached when I reply to Ben.

I'll just mention that I said that to talk about someone in the third person in a language (you think) they don't understand shows a basic lack of character, which could indicate that some of the things I claimed about our previous interactions might  be true. And that  you appear to think that someone who knows as much about Iran as I do and is as intelligent as I am would never have learned some Persian, and also that I don't have friends here who could translate for me. 'Boy oh boy. The mind reels', I said. And finally--andI hope the Moderator won't delete this in light of Louie Louie's obnoxious post still standing-that the title of my deleted reply to him was: 'Oh, shut up, Louie Louie."  :o)

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by profile.">Was Rosie on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:39
AM PDT

Margie, you know I love you and would gladly die for you tomorrow if
anyone tried to harm a single hair on your blue head, but honestly.
Yesterday when you informed us on Q's Flagging blog that people's IP's
are available everywhere all over the I'net, it was misconstrued as
meaning that the publisher provides them to outside parties for a fee.
This caused much unhappiness and tension--excessive--until Foaad was
notified and came to explain. For some reason you never returned to the
thread to explain and defuse. Please, next time you 'drop a bomb' like
that (I mean, even if it hadn't been misinterpreted it's still VERY
shocking for some people to find out about just how available this
information is...), be there for people to help them see it through..as
the passionate, concerned 'good citizen' of the world that you
are. lefty lap poodle and all. lol 

kisses,

r.

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by
profile.">Was Rosie on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:30
AM PDT

I wish that anyone who's interested in the current 'policy' on poo poo
words rwould ead this, please. I posted it on Shazde's other blog.
(Don't know why it posted with all the codes...glitch, obviously...)

//iranian.com/main/comment/reply/105081/288390

I should also clarify that when I say I agree with the current policy,
by 'policy' I mean the CURRENT practice...as a CURRENT necessary
expediency. Not in perpetuity.

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by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sat Apr 24, 2010 07:21 AM PDT

independence doesn't mean IRI. You
can imagine "lefties" however you like, but you're wrong.

"Lefties" aren't anti-human rights. This is a garbage blog. You and
Fred make a cute couple. 

Love,

Your lefty lap poodle 

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