The Middle East first cloned goat was born in central city of Isfahan, Iran, early morning Wednesday. Producing the cloned goat, called Hana, in Royan research site, Iran is the 5th country after the US, Canada, Britain and China that has managed to have a cloned goat, said the Head of Royan Isfahan-branch institute, Nasr Isfahani.The research project is aimed at creating animals that are able to produce tPA (tissue plasminogen activator).
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Questioning Ethics is an Insult to No One But Your EGO ...
by Darius Kadivar on Thu Apr 16, 2009 05:53 AM PDTAnd Should I add MISPLACED EGO !
Before Going on your High Horses ...
Ethics is related to Society's Response to Scientific progress and moral dillema's and philisophical thoughts it triggers. It has nothing to do with Intelligence or technical know how of the inventors or technicians or the I.Q. of PhD Rocket Scientists ...
Atomic Research has also benefited Mankind but needless to say that it also has its side effects. I suppose exposure to Radioactivity or the Bomb being two technological discovery/inventions that Mankind could have been spared of ...
If you think Society is ALWAYS and AT ALL TIMES mature enough to handle it, Fine !
I don't see the problem of simply asking the question ? I have no particular Opinion about cloning other than it does appear to me as strange that in a country where Respected World Class Researchers Kamiar and Arash Alaei on Aids are Imprisoned on grounds of espionage, others seem to be raised to the pinnacle. In a Religious country like Iran where the government is so moralistic about nearly every aspect of human activity, how come the simple idea of substituting "God's Power of Creation" (since they believe God Exists ...) by a Scientific device like Cloning is not considered as a blasphemy ? ...
So according to the IRI Cloning is OK but Research in AIDS is Blasphemy and Treason ?
Other than that. my observation was a simple understatement to the following Great French Authors quote:
Science without conscience is the soul's perdition. ~François Rabelais
These guys dont need lessons in ethics.
by OmidKarimi on Thu Apr 16, 2009 04:13 AM PDTThey are highly educated and help people everyday.
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True, it does violate ethics of some people
by Q on Thu Apr 16, 2009 02:59 AM PDTthe kind of ethics that says Iranians are too stupid to achieve real progress on their own... be it Missiles, nukes, cars, industry, none can be accmplished by Iran alone, definitly not with the help of the self-appinted "brains" who have left Iran.
The ethics go like this:
A bunch of "dahati" Iranians and "dirty Islamic Mullahs" aren't supposed to do things like this. They are just supposed to bow to western overlords and hand the country back to the exiled administrative class to run. They are not smart enough to understand technology and the consequences and cannot produce any pride for Iran. There cannot be any scientific achievement or positive news out of Iran until IRI is overthrown.
This is how things should be. If events to the contrary are seen, then they must be "unethical".
When the doctors at Royan
by OmidKarimi on Wed Apr 15, 2009 05:20 PM PDTWhen the doctors at Royan said they were going to do this, they were ridiculed with the "Iranian aftabeh" accusation on this site I remember long ago. Now, they are ethic violators.
For me, they are amazing people doing amazing deeds for their nation.
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There are still many unanswered questions
by Kaveh Nouraee on Wed Apr 15, 2009 04:18 PM PDTCloning is still very new. The long term medical effects are still unclear.
Too little is known about the effects of genetic modification.
Abolhassankhan
by David ET on Wed Apr 15, 2009 01:31 PM PDTThat was very funny. Thanks for the laughter :-)
and here is the proof from the scientic community:
//www.hyscience.com/archives/ape_ahmadinejad%...
Redundant
by Abolhassankhan (not verified) on Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:50 AM PDTDidn't they already clone a chimp and make him President?
unethical?
by IRANdokht on Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:54 AM PDTCloning animals for food may be the only answer for the evergrowing population of the world. Whose ethical standards are being endangered by cloning?
DK jan why do you repeat the far right's mumbo jumbo? the anti-science stance does not suit educated, reasonable and compassionate people.
IRANdokht
Pray tell Mr Kadivar
by khaleh mosheh on Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:11 AM PDTWhats unethicall about this? Dolly the sheep was cloned in RoslinInstitute near Edinburgh in 1996 and everyone is OK with that.
What sort of training do you have in assessing ethical validity of a piece of research? You are a member of your Local Research Ethics Committe perhaps?