Ex-AIPACer: There is no military option in Iran
Jerusalm Post / DOUGLAS BLOOMFIELD
19-May-2009 (11 comments)

 "We're going to have to end up accepting some kind of peaceful Iranian nuclear energy program - and they actually need it; it's already too late to stop it entirely. That's why it is so important to establish a relationship with Iran in which they accept international inspection and obey international law," he said. "For that to happen, there has to be a discussion of some overarching security architecture for the region that includes both Israel and the Arabs, but before that can even be considered there has to be Arab-Israel reconciliation."

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MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

Even Weissman says it, Yabu!

by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on Tue May 19, 2009 03:22 PM PDT

Weissman says: "There's no assurance an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities - even if all of them could be located - would be anything more than a temporary setback, Weissman told me. Instead, a military strike would unify Iranians behind an unpopular regime, ignite a wave of retaliation that would leave thousands dead from Teheran to Tel Aviv, block oil exports from the Persian Gulf and probably necessitate a ground war, he said.

 

"The only viable solution is dialogue. You don't deal with Iran with threats or preaching regime change," said Weissman, who has lived in Iran, knows Farsi (as well as Arabic, Turkish and French) and wrote his doctoral dissertation at the University of Chicago on Iranian history. That's where the Bush administration went wrong, in his view."

 If the Iran expert at APAC says so, who is Yabu to neigh No!



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Mehdi Mazloom

IRANdokht

by Mehdi Mazloom on Wed May 20, 2009 04:54 PM PDT

You write:

Not like Mehdi Mazloom here who besides the name that he thought would be a good cover, has absolutely no relation with Iran, no idea about Iran, never studied Iranian history, doesn't know the language and is
completely clueless and he's not even taking the time to read the
articles posted here before leaving his usual comments under them..

Aggar bandeh ja-e' shommah boodam, aa-val fekr mi-kardam, ba-aadan harf mizadam bar-sedeh kessi-digge'.

While I certainty respect Weizman view and  read his comment. I have my sources in Hebrew and in English. Sources like this:

Israel's Institude of Nationanl  Security;

//www.inss.org.il/research.php?cat=3&incat=&r...

all publicly opine the same. It is next to impossible to stop the IRI's nuclear activities by military operation.

As I have repeated before, I hope and pray we will not get to the point of military operation. Israeli leaders may be Yaboo (I like this name for bibi), BUT they are not stupid.  Unlike the Mullahs in tehran who most likely did not experienced combat, leaders like Bibi and  Barak are decorated military solders, with elite commando units with real experience. These s.o.bs know Israel's real military capabilities, They would not talk hot air if  they were not absolutely sure IDF & IAF could accomplish its objectives. Otherwise, they would compromise Israel credibility as the superpower in the region.

Also, Israel has some of the best experts on Iran, and this regime in particular. They also speak farsi, and many (like Mofaz) also grew up in Iran.

Kaveh,

I just read your input below. 

Thanks for the your input. Yep, I do know, Irandokh(tar) seem to  know more about other then themselves would know.

You see, when we demonstrate that, we know great deal more about them, then they know about us, they all get their noses out of joint, and resort to the  usual insults. 

Oh well, they can insult all they wish. we will handle them case by case.


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Kaveh Nouraee

Ok, so the man says

by Kaveh Nouraee on Wed May 20, 2009 02:39 PM PDT

that a military option isn't an option. Well, well, well, I seem to recall saying that as well, even if I stated it for reasons other than what is stated in this article.

Weissman's ability to speak Farsi and several other languages seems to make some people fawn over him but it does not make the man immune to questions about his opinions when warranted.

Mehdi, you're debating some people who are interested in their own monologue rather than a dialogue. If you say something they dislike, they'll move to delete you like a computer virus, but it's perfectly acceptable for them to attack you for your beliefs. When they resort to that, it speaks volumes.


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IRANdokht

Thanks Mehrnaz

by IRANdokht on Wed May 20, 2009 10:49 AM PDT

What a great article, I am very impressed that such article would even be posted there!

Now on Weissman:

Weissman, who has lived in Iran, knows Farsi (as well as Arabic, Turkish and French) and wrote his doctoral dissertation at the University of Chicago on Iranian history. 

ok no surprise there, if a guy has been to Iran, studied Iran and knows how to speak Farsi and a few other languages, they should not be even arguing with him about his views. He had to know the region to be a spy...

Not like Mehdi Mazloom here who besides the name that he thought would be a good cover, has absolutely no relation with Iran, no idea about Iran, never studied Iranian history, doesn't know the language and is completely clueless and he's not even taking the time to read the articles posted here before leaving his usual comments under them..

MM jan

as I mentioned before, reading is "good", please try it some time...

IRANdokht


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1L

Mehdi Traitor

by 1L on Wed May 20, 2009 10:28 AM PDT

Dude the article isnt even about the israeli-PA conflict... The article just shows that some in your camp are even realizing that a military option is not viable. Now traitor, come around and stop changing the subject. You are your kind are testament to the fact that your people will always be questionable in terms of loyalty to their nations. No wonder theres a trial involving your kind and espionage every decade in the US. Sickens me


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Mehdi Mazloom

abarmard

by Mehdi Mazloom on Wed May 20, 2009 09:05 AM PDT

the whole conflict is really has less to do with land, as much as mind set. The ideology by which one group perceives others, and itself.

Who's the hell decided that, Islam being the 3rd religion in the region, is sole custodian and outright sovereign land for Muslims, where two other religion (Jewish and Christianity) are subservient to Islam. Why non-Muslims should accept this paradigm, and live as second citizen to Muslims. This is what Israelis like me can not understand,or even phantom

You know!, if Arab & Islamic countries in the region where a dominant one in all area of human development, and progress (as much as the west is today), one can make the palatable argument, "they bring progress and improvement to quality of life, etc". That ended 1000 years ago. 

Do you see the fault line here.?


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Jaleho

Thank you Mehrnaz jan

by Jaleho on Wed May 20, 2009 09:04 AM PDT

for the good article, And that, from Jpost ;-)

Our AIPAC-Israeli spy also says:

"There is no viable military option for dealing the Iranian nuclear threat, and efforts by the Israeli government and its supporters to link that threat to progress in peace with the Palestinians and Syria are "nonsense" and an obstacle to the Arab-Israeli and international cooperation essential to changing Iranian behavior. "

 

I have a feeling that much to Mr. Weisman's chagrin though, Israel would be hit on the  neck to FIRST cough up a bit of the stolen land back to SYRIANS; after the failure of that gesture to prevent Iran's nuclear development, then Israel will be told by its American masters to just shut up and and digest Iranian nuclear reality.

I guess they can continue to bark among themselves a bit more before Iranian election direct them to a more unified voice ;-)


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Abarmard

Mehdi Mazloom

by Abarmard on Wed May 20, 2009 04:19 AM PDT

You are correct. I would like to ask, and not to make a point, if in history there have been a time that the entire region would be bad or wrong and one country would be right.

Happy Wednesday

 


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gol-dust

Is he an AIPAC?he sounds more reasonable than a lot of anti IRIs

by gol-dust on Tue May 19, 2009 11:18 PM PDT

So they can actually be reasonable? They are not that crazy after all. They are after their own powers! See how politics works!

When you are out of office, the truth would come out admitting that the sky is not falling after all! There is a clear sky behind those thick clouds!


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Mehdi Mazloom

speaking of goons

by Mehdi Mazloom on Tue May 19, 2009 06:28 PM PDT

In these days, it is hard to distinguish between genuine information, and disinformation. Is it all designed to confuse and get the Akhooooondah off balance, we never know.

All what American need (and do) see is. one tiny state in a vast ocean of hostile enemies, which for  past 60 years, it has been fighting for its  survival as sovereign and independent homeland for the Jews.

They saw the outcome of WWII which produced more then 130M refugees throughout the world. Since then, all have been settled elsewhere, in new homes and countries - ALL EXCEPT the Pals. Why  the only country in which Pals live in democracy with  civil rights are thee one who  live in Israel. While their brethern throughout the Arab & Islamic state are still kept in refugee camps.?  


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smhb

AIPAC

by smhb on Tue May 19, 2009 05:16 PM PDT

Mehrnaz,

These AIPAC goons and their stooges amongst the elite have only one mission and thats to keep the American public ignorant and misinformed when it comes to the ME, specifically on the Palestinian issue and any state that poses a potential threat to their dominance in the area under imperialist tutelage. What they fail to grasp is that they lost the battle when the shah was overthrown.

Games up.  

 


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