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Mazloom, as far as I'm concerned I'm glad the Israelis beat...

The Arabs' ass more than once - don't forget Iran helped too. If Nasser and other Pan Arab nationalists had not lost, they would have turned their destructive attention to Iran. In that case we Iranians owe Israel a big favor, which I think we returned by financing the Haifa refinery for them.

Having said that, your blaming the Ghoraan for myriad of atrocities only reinforces that those claims, if they exist, were the direct result of incorporating the Torah, which is the main source of Jewish folk stories and fiction peddled as a "holy book". That "book" contaminated the Ghoraan and the Old Testament by giving validity to religion-based repression, atrocities and plain crimes.

As for the liberation of Arab lands, of course the Arabs on their own couldn't do jack shit. It took Iranian money and training to help the Lebanese to soundly defeat the Zionist invaders, more than once, to kick them out of Lebanon. Even you must realize that the fact Israel only won the wars that Iran, among others, helped it and LOST all wars that Iran helped its advasry.

You may "love to see the Pals living in their own state..." but the right wing racist pigs you guys choose to rule your country don't believe that AT ALL.

BTW, Iran has neither the means nor the will to fight Isael by military means and neither does Israel, in my opinion.

Eat your matzo balls so you won't choke on them, pal.

Osaad

My good man, you can interpret it however your fancy drives you.  I don't care. The bottom line assertion here is. Whenever Arabs (and now the  Mullahs in Iran) chose the path of destruction against Israelis, they ended up losing more they had bargain for.

If you care to examine the past 60 years, the only time Arabs (including the pals) had "liberated" their land conquered by Israel, it was through peaceful and civilized negotiations - not war. 

again remember that in 1967 it was the Arabs who initiated hostilities against Israel. We had no choice but to drive the enemies as far as possible from our civilian centers. conquering and hold onto the land was part of this strategy.

No mister, these facts are not "zionist propagandas". rather, they demonstrate the sad truth about delusion under which many Islamists are living.

I don't think repeating your old and tired bellicose of "zionist", or "rape", would serve to bolster your argument. when it comes to looting, forcing innocent people out of their homes, Islam has a rich history of that. (All documented in the Quran itself), and not confined only to Israel. I suggest you to research the facts how 1.2M jews living throughout Arab & Islamic states were forced out of their homes in Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, and others. Then come back here and lecture  me about atrocities against minorities.

I for one would love to see the Pals living in their own state side by side my country in peace and harmony. However, when Israelis are being forced to chose between the lives of their women and children, and the  livelihood of the Pals, whom do you think they should and would chose?

Just as much as Israeli right wing settlers should forget their pipe dream of return to the biblical Israel, Hamas and other Arab should forget about Israel as an Islamic land, on which only Muslims are allowed to live on. 

Mazloom, according to your stats...

Zionistan must be heaven on earth for the Palestinians who are too dumb to realize what niceties the Zionist invader have brought them. What an ungrateful bunch of "Arabs" who keep biting the hands that keep grabbing their homeland!

You sound like that rapist who stocked his victim's refrigirator after raping her and expected a thank you kiss in return. I think schmucks like you need regular doses of reality delivered by iv injection because otherwise you're too blind to see the reality.

BTW, do you have an "article" NOT written by a Zionist propagandist that supports your routine nonsense?

capt_ayhab - Get grasp of reality mister.

Yes there is a wall out there all right. It was built only after Pals started with their barbaric and indiscriminate homicide bombing against Israeli civilians. Occupation notwithstanding. Before the wall went up. life in the West Bank and Gaza was like this:

DURING 20 YEARS (1947 - 1967) OF ARAB RULE :

* Palestinian Male life expectancy grew from 42 to 44.

* Palestinian Female life expectancy grew from 45 to 46

* Palestinian Infant mortality rate decreased from 200 per thousand to
170 per thousand.

* Cruse death rate decreased from 21 per thousand to 19 per thousand.

* Before 1967, only 113 hospitals had been built in the territories

* Before 1967 only 23 Mother & Child Centers had been established.

* Before 1967 the percentage of illiterates on average had been 27.8%
among men and among women even higher at 65.1%.

DURING THE NEXT 22 YEARS (1967 - 1989) OF ISRAELI RULE :

* Palestinian Male life expectancy grew from 44 to 63.

* Palestinian Female life expectancy grew from 46 to 67.

* Palestinian Infant mortality rate decreased from 170 per thousand to
60 per thousand.

* Infant mortality rate decreased from 19 per thousand to 6 per
thousand.

* Malaria, which had existed in the territories before 1967 was finally
eliminated during the Israeli occupation.

Israel also more than tripled the number of Palestinian teachers and boosted
the Palestinian educational system by establishing a number of
universities. Among them:

College of Scientists (Abu Dis) - est. 1982. (Yeh, that famous Abu-Dis).

College of Social Welfare (El Bira) - est. 1979.

College of Religion (Beit Hanina) - est. 1978

Islamic College in Hebron- est.1971.

By 1983 Israel had helped reduce illiteracy to only 13.5% among men and
38.9% among women.

Here is the link to the complete article.

BLAME IT ON THE OCCUPATION. Written by Natalia Zawidowski

//www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0206/S00049.htm