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Take care,

DK

Darius, I agree with you about the crocodile tears.

I thought that was unfair. It made me uncomfortable. Your taking care to wish Hajjarian well here..that makes me feel..comfortable.

Fred, please tell me more

about Hajjarian's involvement in the Intelligence apparatus. I'd really like to know.

And also, would you say then that all this is a kind of..poetic justice? Or..that Hajjarian's torturers should be more..appreicative toward him? (I'm sure you don't think it's divine retribution, since I assume you don't believe in god).

As for the part of the quote that you bolded, I think the operant word here is "help". It implies that other factors would have to be in place as well.

Fred, you do know that Mammad suffered at the hands of the 'hardliners' as much as anyone here and more than a lot, I'm sure you know that. Just...an obsevation..

As for long-winded, I'll definitely give you that.

Don't be idealistic and do not hope for so much

I believe the best thing that could happen for Iran as events are surely closely monitored by the Brits and American Democrats in power is a mild mellow Islamic Republic with some Hamed Karzai look alike as president. Forget about a secular Republic or democracy, etc.

Brzezinsky is a close friend of Ebrahim Yazdi's and Trita Parsi is his protégé. None of these guys want this regime to completely go for their own reasons! (Mind you CNN, the liberal media in favor of the Democratic Party, only interviews Trita or Reza Aslan as the only Iran's experts like all others are dead or non-existent!)

Brzezinsky said in his interview with Fareed Zakaria that the events in Iran are the beginning (he emphasized though that it would be a very long beginning) of the end for Ayatollah neo-cons! he never said that the regime in its entirety might go or Iran would one day have a SECULAR regime!!!

Secular democracy for Iran means uncontrollable limitless progress and advancement considering how talented Iranians in general are and the enormous natural resources the country possesses, which neither the West nor Israel wants for Iran! so they will do anything in their power for it not to ever happen!

Mr Sahimi would you care for Our "Crocodile" Tears of Sympathy ?

No Comment ...

DREAM ON:Monarchists and international terrorism by Mohammad Sahimi

I personally wish Mr. Saeed Hajjarian Liberation in Good Health and Good Psychological and physical condition but It looks to me that the Tehran Bureau or Mr. Sahimi who in the past clearly Lobbied the IRI Political Agenda under the Reformist cloak  just like their lobbies NIAC/AIC Suddenly are crying for help and express their indignation to see their friends become victimes of the violent mascarade taking place in our country today (much of which they were warned of the outcome by the Opposition in exile but they prefered to ignore) for which they alone are to be blamed for their own shortsighted support of their own henchmen ( once their closest buddies). Or is it that I have Alzheimers and that We should not spill tears ( even crocodile ones)  on their recent predicament ? ...  

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/07/06/crocod...

With wishes of seeing Mr. Sahimi's buddy freed soon. But Don't blame the exiled Opposition when You or your friends are in trouble because of your own behaviour and mistakes of judgment in identifying Your Real Enemies ... for indeed Your Worst Enemy was the IRI itself and Not Reza Pahlavi or the exiled Opposition you loath so much !

Sweet Dreams !

DK

You see Maryam, /edited

Hajjarian believes in an evolujtion toward Secularism and Sahimi  doesn't criticize him for it. Sahimi is no more of an Islamist than Moussavi, and Hajjarian likely far less.

I think it's one thing to be critical about the situation, but another to say you agree with such ugly and caustic things as the first poster wrote about all Islamists. and then to add to it--they're not Iranian and so on... To say it on this particular thread while the man is being pyschologically tortured to death as we speak, on this day..this holiday, this commemmoration of an uprising, this day when supposedly people are demonstrating in silence with roses...

to say that right here, today, on this thread, and then laud the green movement even if only as an expedient toward overthrow a is...

and to cry about the arrested and beaten and then say..right here...

Catching larks

This longwinded write-up peppered with semi-crafty self glorification as well as that of Mr. Hajjarian is more suited as a defense’s closing argument where there are no cross-examinations.

The recounting of the events leading to the present disaster called Islamist cutthroats’ republic and casting Hajjarian as the imprisoned hero who still unabashedly supports the Islamist republic leaves a lot to be desired. For example, while in the Prime minister’s office, Hajjarian was one of the founders of the Islamist republic’s intelligence apparatus.

The author a known supporter of full cycle dual use nuke program for the Islamist republic makes some leaps of faith that is as fantastic as they come.

“In fact, Dr. Hajjarian has always been loyal to the political establishment founded after the Revolution, the one Ayatollah Khomeini said would bring freedom and democracy to the Iranian people. When he underwent fundamental changes in his thinking in the late 1980s and 1990s, he arrived at an interpretation of Ayatollah Khomeini’s political thinking, according to which the Islamic Republic founded by Khomeini will eventually lead to a secular system. According to Dr. Hajjarian’s thinking, the basis for this is the Expediency Council, founded by Ayatollah Khomeini. The EC arbitrates over disputes between the Majles and the powerful Guardian Council, which vets candidates for most elections and interprets the Constitution. Most members of the EC are not ayatollahs or even clerics. Thus, the thinking goes, because a Constitutional body with such a composition has more power than the powerful Guardian Council, it will eventually help evolve this into a secular system.”

 What in essence the author is saying is forget the Islamist constitution and article 110 where absolute power, the kind rivaling what Pharaohs had. What you see in Iran under the Islamist cutthroats' republic is nothing to be worried about because " will eventually lead to a secular system”.  Yeah right!

If the sky falls we shall catch larks.

I too agree with Daneshjo

These islamists all are non Iranian & do not do anything for Iran & Iranians but for their backward idealogy .

Payandeh Iran & Iranians

Down with IRI

I agree.

I take back what I said. I hope the same fate befalls him as befell Saeed Hajjarian.

Thank god for people like you who are able to see things so clearly and not through any particular prism.

I stand corrected.

Voice of an islamist should be taken with a mountain of salt.

m.s. is not an iranian; he is a fanatic islamist, a khomeinist, who can't care less about iran or iranians and is partly responsible for where we are today; all his kind wanted was to replace the progressive regime of the late shah, with a backward islamic regime that would guarantee defeat of iranian culture and nationalism and to turn iran on par with the rest of backward islamic nations and never ahead of them as was headed during the shah. Many likes of him hated shah far more than they ever cared about iran or iranians. He sees things from the prism of islam exclusively in which neither iran nor iranians have any place whatsoever. In their view, murder of tens of thousands of iranians by IRI (some claim as many as 120,000 murders) and looting of trillions of $s of iranian assets were insignificant because they were all for islam and defeat of core iranian culture, yet petty crimes of the shah were made into mountains of corruption that deserved toppling.