Basij militiaman: 'I hoped it would never come to shooting them' [on 6/20]
Channel 24 France Observer
09-Jul-2009 (5 comments)

I hoped it would never come to shooting them. That night, I had a nightmare in which the protestors threw me on a fire. It's come back several times, and I can see the faces of the people I was ordered to shoot.  I've asked a very spiritual mullah to pray for me. I did it for Islam but it wasn't easy to kill people. We have to remember who they are though - they're deceitful people who are against the Islamic Revolution. You can't expect us to stay calm when they want to overthrow our regime."

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rosie is roxy is roshan

Extraordinary journey into the mind of a Basiji

by rosie is roxy is roshan on Thu Jul 09, 2009 07:01 PM PDT

 The interview about the events of June 20 was published in France on July 3 and picked up by Lede blog, NYT, today.

He had to follow orders, but he was the commander. He tried to shoot at their feet, but he killed people. They had to protect themselves but it was to show that they were serious. They moved back behind vans later, why not earlier? it wasn't easy to kill people, but if you just 'remember who they are", imaybe, just maybe, it'd be easier.  Who are they? They are against Islam. against the Revolution.  Khatami, Koroubi, seyeds both.  Mousavi, an 'architect' of the Revolution.. Who told him, who told him that about them? .He had no choice. But if somebody hadn't told him that, would he have found another choice?

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We all know who these people are. We kknow the miserable circumstances they lived under when they were recruited. And that he waas probably so young and so poorly educated then that he couldn't think for himself. And we know who recruited him and why. And we know who thinks for him now, when he can think at all.  

He tried to shoot at their feet but he killed them. He did it for Islam. And then he had a terrible, terrible dream. And now a Mullah must pray for him. A very spiritual man.

And if we can't find it in ourselves  to have compassion for this man,  it will never end.. Not even when we build our own bright new Utopia. Each according to his plan.

 


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IranFirst

Thanks, but..

by IranFirst on Thu Jul 09, 2009 09:17 PM PDT

Thanks Rosie,

I will find the movies you mentioned. I respect Karoubi and any other Iranian who has good heart and stands for Iran. But I can't be politically correct , the root cause of all this IS Islam, in my view. Just as the root cause in Russia was Communism not the rulers, take away their corrupt idealogy (Islam in our case), and they will be the dictators that they are. Once Iran becomes a democracy and not rulled based on the cult of Islam, I will leave it to the followers to choose what is good for them (it becomes a private matter), but until then Islam and cutting limbs and stonning and slashing people and putting down women is the rule of the land and against all norms of life in 21st century and human rights, as such I oppose it. I shake the hand of any Iranian Muslim, Bahai, jewish, Christian, non-religiou, as long as they work to free Iran from the rule of Mullahs and Islam.

But I also know that Mohamad was a criminal and a child molester ( I have read Quran and Hadith), and the barbaric examples he set,  murders he committed and what's written in Quran (to kill kafirs, etc.) DOES give reason to the Basiji and Al-Qaida type to kill for Islam and totally accept it as a religious duty. Once a man looses the ability to think and reason (not permited in Islam) its very hard to educate that person without exposing Islam


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rosie is roxy is roshan

Iran First,

by rosie is roxy is roshan on Thu Jul 09, 2009 08:35 PM PDT

that's where you're mistaken. The affective and cognitive components of this man's psyche and the circumstances and mechnisms which formed them are prototypical of the front lines of every single totalitarian regime that ever was and ever will be. He is exactly the same as Hitler's Brown Shirts. Exactly.

If you don't believe me, I heartily suggest that you see a film by Louis Malle, the French director, called Lacombe Lucien, about a young French Fascist at the time of the Occupation.  Along with another called "Au Revoir, Les Enfants" (it means 'Goodbye, Children, but with the sense of see you next time...), which is based on a true story of Louis Malle's childhood under the Occupation.

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Further, generally speaking, within the military of any country, there exists to greater or lesser degree this kind of indoctrination.

And finally, hopefully to lesser degree, some of it exists in all of us as well.

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Another point you're missing that you can't possibly compare his..moronic barbarism, as you put it...to the mind of a practicing Muslim like Karoubi or Shariati or for that matter Ebadi, whatever you may think of the first two, they're definitely not him. And I don't belileve they intended to create people like him either. i don't. Do you really think they did (do)?

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Well anyway, I'm glad we agree that what he needs is deprogrammig, and not a firing squad, as many here would have it. But don't you see the problem is, if you're calling him a moron, which is so uncompassionate, so disdainful, and then you try to deprogram, either he will resist you and you will fail...

or...

you'll have to do it the same way they did. By brainwashing.


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IranFirst

I did it for Islam ....

by IranFirst on Thu Jul 09, 2009 08:09 PM PDT

It comes down to this cult of barbarism (Islam) that these brainwashed morons follow like sheep. Democracy will come to Iran one day, but it will take many years after that to convert these Taliban to regular human beings and get this Arab cult (Islam) out of their brains


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minadadvar

Rosie

by minadadvar on Thu Jul 09, 2009 07:19 PM PDT

Thanks.


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