Mousavi, the unlikely hero of 6/12, may or may not continue the fight. But Iranians won't forget. They won't forget the dead, the prisoners, and the brutality of their landlords. At a pre-election press conference that I heard about, one Mousavi campaign manager was asked about the brutality of his nezam, way back, when he was prime minister in the 1980s. The staffer answered, "We were all Ahmadinejads then." After 6/12, we Iranians are all Mousavis now, even those who voted for Ahmadinejad, whether they know it yet or not.
>>>Person | About | Day |
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نسرین ستوده: زندانی روز | Dec 04 | |
Saeed Malekpour: Prisoner of the day | Lawyer says death sentence suspended | Dec 03 |
Majid Tavakoli: Prisoner of the day | Iterview with mother | Dec 02 |
احسان نراقی: جامعه شناس و نویسنده ۱۳۰۵-۱۳۹۱ | Dec 02 | |
Nasrin Sotoudeh: Prisoner of the day | 46 days on hunger strike | Dec 01 |
Nasrin Sotoudeh: Graffiti | In Barcelona | Nov 30 |
گوهر عشقی: مادر ستار بهشتی | Nov 30 | |
Abdollah Momeni: Prisoner of the day | Activist denied leave and family visits for 1.5 years | Nov 30 |
محمد کلالی: یکی از حمله کنندگان به سفارت ایران در برلین | Nov 29 | |
Habibollah Golparipour: Prisoner of the day | Kurdish Activist on Death Row | Nov 28 |
A word about polling.
by rosie is roxy is roshan on Tue Jul 14, 2009 05:22 PM PDTI don't remember reading about this anywhere within the context of the recent Iranian election, but I do know that it is common knowledge among analysts of polls in the United States that polls can only be taken according to the phone book, that is land lines.
Being that a large constituency of Mousavi's were students they would very likely have cell phones only.
Waow, you're Good Malijak (WGM)
by Mardom Mazloom on Tue Jul 14, 2009 06:43 AM PDT
Four ballots have been found in a library in Shiraz. They tried to hide them without success. And you Malijak, come here and still talk about the reliability of the Jen made elections!!!!
You're fooling yourself or you try to fool us?
Otherwise, thanks for your comments. They are very useful to see how low people can fall.
چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد
Re: The game is
by wgm1919 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 05:29 AM PDTI would say this is a very realistic analysis of events. The aspect that should be added is that even before the elections, the foreign powers had recognized the same trends and was prepared to stoke the sides in on way or the other depending on the outocmes. In other words, even if Ahamdinejad was a loser (even with the taghalobs!), then the same events would take place; perhaps more bloodshed, but neverthless the same type riots but this time "in support of ahmadinejad".
Thanks for posting this very interesting artile. I highly recommend its reading to "Farsi zabanan"
The game is
by vildemose on Tue Jul 14, 2009 02:05 AM PDTThe game is over:
//jomhouri.com/a/04int/006984.php
Mr. Majd, if you don't read Persian, I highly recommend that you have someone translate this article for you. You no longer have the luxry of self-deception. Wake up before it's too late.
Mr. Majd always protects his beloved IRI
by Sassan on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:38 AM PDTPeople, please, do not be fooled by Mr. Majd's seemingly revolutionary fervor. He's no revolutionary. In fact, he's an insider with kinship ties to the mullahs going back generations. As such, his following statement should be disregarded as patently false, made from a position of panic and desperation.
Majd writes: The landlords [hardliners] still have a large portion of the population behind them, the ten to twelve million, maybe more, plus all the guns. (If the West, or Iranians in opposition movements abroad, try to hijack the protests for their own causes, they'll have more, much more.)
The IRI has lost all credibility! Look at what they're doing to our people on our streets in Iran. If Mr. Majd really thinks that the IRI will inherit more supporters (even in the face of such brutal crackdown) if opposition movements abroad try to help the movement within, he is sadly mistaken. How can anyone support this barbaric, anti-Iranian regime, with or without Moussavi, as it is presently strucutured with Khamenei at the top, with so much blood on his hands?
Mr. Majd, once again, betrays his inner loyaties to the IRI and sides with the murdering regime as he has done so for years, for he is indeed one of their most "useful idiots" in the west. Clearly, Mr. Majd would rather have his IRI masters stay in place with Moussavi or Khatami as president, which would still mean that the Great Dictator and his Basiji thugs would hold all levers of real power!
No thanks, Mr. Majd. You and your aghazadeh ilk can no longer pull the covers over our eyes anymore. The show (sham, really) is over. The IRI is done! Wholesale changes are in the offing. The days for cosmetic makeovers are yesterday! Today, we want a revolution, period.
wgm1919 You must not have
by Ahmaghinejad1364 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 09:44 PM PDTwgm1919 You must not have read Mr. Majd's article too well! He directly mentioned those "polls" you're referring to(I think specifically the outdated TFF poll that people keep referencing--which in the timeline of Iranian politics and elections is meaningless). Here is the quote from the article: "Iran's very own Useful Idiots in the West parrot their line, lending credence to outdated polls, to mathematical analyses that tell Iranians who are giving their lives for the right to a legitimate vote that they are dying for a lie."
What??
by Ali P. on Mon Jul 13, 2009 08:25 PM PDT"(The MKO), in US they have an office in the Pentegan"??
Is there another foreign paramilitary group that has an office in Pentagon, or just the MKO?
I am just curious.
سوره : الاعراف آیه : 179
Mardom MazloomMon Jul 13, 2009 07:45 PM PDT
وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنسِ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لاَّ يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لاَّ يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ آذَانٌ لاَّ يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا أُوْلَـئِكَ كَالأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ أُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْغَافِلُونَ
برای جهنم بسياری از جن و انس را بيافريديم ايشان را دلهايی است ، که بدان نمی فهمند و چشمهايی است که بدان نمی بينند و گوشهايی است که بدان نمی شنوند اينان همانند چارپايانند حتی گمراه تر از آنهايند اينان خود غافلانند
چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد
Re: Perhaps they lied? (To: John)
by wgm1919 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 06:16 PM PDTDear John Man,
Your point may be valid in some quarters of the Iranian communities, but I doubt it is true everywhere. I know for a fact that we have a large community of MKO in canada who would think and act like what you have described. AND, they are VERY vocal. And unfortunately in spite of being designated as a terrorist group, they are supported by the US and Canadian governments (in US they have an office in the Pentegan with the responsibility of advising the US military -- so Iranians in US say).
But also I KNOW people here in US who drove 3 hours (yes 3 HOURS) to get to the nearest polling place in US to vote at the last presidential elections. I am neutral on this matter but would like to get to the truth. I respect the vote and opinion of my Iranian compatriots. In spite of our faults, Iranians are probably the only nation on whom the world can hang its high hopes on. I say that not because I am iranian (I have immigtared over 20 years ago) but having been around for a while and being observant, I think this is the case.
Enjoy the company of your Iranian wife.
thanks.
Perhaps they lied?
by John on Mon Jul 13, 2009 04:55 PM PDTWGM, do you not think that citizens living under a totalitarian, repressive, vindictive and torturing government might choose to toe the party line when being polled by someone whose identify they can't verify?
Perhaps a citizen of the damned IRI who receives a random phone call asking who he or she intends to vote for might suspect that Khamenei's secret police is attempting to entrap him or her, and will answer with the name of the government's preferred candidate rather than risk arrest, beating, torture, rape, death.
I can tell you for a fact that my Iranian wife told me that she refused to go to the Iranian embassy in Ottawa to vote because "there is no point - the winner has already been chosen". As events have proven, she was correct. Perhaps those Iranians who were polled felt the same way and chose to answer "Ahmadi Nejad" instead of giving their preferred answer: "Death to the IRI".
Nice Article. but ...
by wgm1919 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 02:55 PM PDTMr Majd does a very nice job reflecting the events and the background. What puzzles me and I am sure many others who followed Iran's elections from a distance, and Mr Majd does not even talk about is this question: Prior to the election there were many polls, most notably those taken by US government from a "third country" (presumably Turkey or Bubai). All these polls showed Ahmadijenad ahead to what amounts to his 63% win in 40M votes. Mr Majd talks about his conversation with President Khatami and others that they assumed Ahmadinejad can only have 12M votes in all. But I think that is only one side of the story. He should have looked at the other as well.
thanks for posting.