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Thank you Rosie

You are very kind.

Now c'mon you guys down there, he super titled this article

"Interesting Point to Consider".

INTERESTING: a vase can be interesting. It doesn't mean it's "true".

POINT: ONE idea. NOT an entire world view, not an ideology or agenda.

CONSIDER: Think about. Just think about. He didn't even say 'strongly' consdier.

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If you guys wanna know what an IRI apologist really is, follow my tracking and you shall see the difference between Abarmard and that kind of animal.

And a couple of them really are animals..

Stop being so childish. It's not helpful.

It's embarrassing.

A., O.,

I've read quite a bit about this on both sides but nothing nearly as comprehensive.on the NAY side...and I'd like to read this more carefully time permitting...but in the meantime I have just two things I want to say:

1) The question of fraudulence is by now in some sense irrelevant. Inasmuch as the Regime's response to the protests during and since has thoroughly discredited them FAR more than fraud itself. Having said that (and while tipping my hat to Ostaad's observations).it's still an issue that shouldn't be ignored. So..

2) Thanks so much for posting the article, Abermard. You're always so fair-minded. Some people can't see that. They're too polarized. They just don't understand. It's a shame.

Even I early on posted an article I found calling the fraud cry a fraud, so to say. It was titled "C'mon Ahmadinejad won, get over it". I said EVEN I.

And that says it all.

Take care,
Rosie

Yes Ostaad

If they asked themselves where they get all their info, and what do those media represent, then they would understand articles as such.

Why don't you write to the writer

Once I write an analysis, I will take blame/credit. The important part of the article is the reminder that our fight is twofold.

For the time being, empty your anger on the writer of the article or tell us what part you disagree with.

Just like the last time.

I believe Ahmadinejad's first electoral "victory" was as fake as this one, but better handled. Ahmadinejad came from nowhere and won the "election" by small margins after a runoff. Last time the turnout was low therefore fewer people realized they had be shafted or cared but did not say much. Karubi and few others kept saying the election was not fair but they fell silent after some time. This time, in my opinion, the same parameters were in place but the margins were unbelievable and the mass participation of the people had provided a lot of fuel.

In short I don't believe ANY numbers put out by ANYONE when it comes to elections. That said, I don't' consider Ahmadinejad winning the election with very small margins implausible, but someone panicked to put out the results before Mousavi declare himself the winner, which could be true also, and the rest is history.

Abarmard, it's fun to ignore the voices of ignorance in the amen corner here. Isn't it?

Another post by the Famous IRI Apologist

This is really not surprising that "Abarmand" the Famous IRI Apologist in Iranian.com has been laying low until now to post this piece of crap article on this forum.

Apparently, people like you have no shame and decency, which is obvious to all of true iranians. You people hide just like your masters behind a bunch of thugs, while the beautiful, enthusiastic and full of hope young Iranians are dying. Abarmand you are wrong as always to think that we will be fooled again. I was in Iran last month, and saw what the thugs like you are doing to our people and culture. Enough said. The time is up for you and your kind, and believe me when the time comes you will swept to the dust bin of history.Best Regards to all the true sons and daughters of Iran,Mehdi

As is

As unbefitting into the Islamists/Anti-Semites and their fossilized lefty allies’ world view as it might be, the truth might just be as it is and there is no need for all the twisting and turning to change it into something which it is not. Now go back to your blaming all but the real culprits.

"Elections" in Iran under IRI regime = Hoax!

Abarmard,

If blaming “western media” would’ve worked the last 30 years, we wouldn’t’ve seen Iranians in millions and people around the world in millions rejecting IRIs regime and want its removal. So, after all this, beating on the same outdated drum of blaming “America and Zionsts” for IRIs barbarism, will only make people like you look like a brainwashed fool.

The fact that IRI picks a bunch of its goons and stage a circus called “elections” is in itself a big hoax and the world know it. election for what office? For a powerless one? Which parties and ideologies are able to participate in these lections? As matter of fact, where are the parties in Iran? Unless you gonna say “Majmaa Rowhanioon Mobarez” and “Jameyey Rowhaniat Mobarez” are parties! The Iranian people were looking for a reason to express their anger and frustration and to be able to come out and want freedom and reject IRI, and this circus allowed them that, that’s all.

No propaganda by you or anyone else will prevent IRIs collapse. That’s a promise.